Everyone hates $NOW (+4,82 %) but also everyone hates $SAP (+3,93 %) .
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269Everyone hates $NOW (+4,82 %) but also everyone hates $SAP (+3,93 %) .
Trance 2/3
The figures weren't actually that bad, but the share price has been falling by double digits every quarter for about a year now. Today it's also going down again without any apparent reason. Yes, SaaS apocalypse and all that.
GetQuinn says my total return is about -70%.
In the meantime, I'm thinking about simply putting the few bucks left over from my investment into an ETF, e.g. the $TDIV (-0,1 %) . even if a bottom were reached at some point, I hardly believe that the share would outperform this ETF or any other, for example. what do you think? Keep holding or get out and into an ETF?
I am also thinking about something similar with $SAP (+3,93 %) .
After just over a year, I broke the 20k barrier 🥰! I really started the stock market adventure without much prior knowledge, but thanks to the community and acquiring knowledge about shares and the like, I was able to achieve an absolutely reasonable return. 💰
Thanks to everyone who contributes so regularly and actively shapes the forum. I would like to contribute more myself, but due to time management I hardly manage to do any research and provide good content... THANK YOU 🎉
I currently have another €1000 ready to invest and have been toying with the idea for a while now $SAP (+3,93 %) . More diversity towards Europe/DE might not be bad...?
Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas for improvement?
Thanks to the entire community and especially to and @Tenbagger2024
@Aktienhauptmeister
@Simpson
@Multibagger for your efforts 🥹
So what’s everyone’s take on $MSFT (+3,42 %) right now?
Heard today on a call that a lot of institutions are starting to add again to quality SAAS positions in names like $MSFT (+3,42 %)
$CRM (+3,65 %)
$SAP (+3,93 %) with the view that the recent bear run across enterprise software may have been overdone. I would be staying clear of companies like $ADBE (+4,35 %) but i cant help but think that $MSFT (+3,42 %) is an interesting play.
Over the last 12 to 18 months, a lot of software names have been hit pretty hard as the market rotated away from high multiple growth and towards profitability, cash flow and AI monetisation. Rising rates compressed valuations, enterprise spending slowed, and there were concerns that companies would cut back on cloud and software budgets after the huge post COVID expansion cycle.
At the same time, there’s also been a growing debate around whether AI could actually disrupt parts of the traditional software model itself, especially for smaller SAAS companies without real moats.
But when you look at names like $MSFT, it feels slightly different. You’re talking about a company with massive recurring revenues, deep enterprise integration through Office, Azure and Teams, one of the strongest balance sheets in the market, and arguably one of the best positioned companies globally for AI deployment and monetisation.
The bear case is obviously valuation and whether AI expectations have got too far ahead of themselves. But the bull case seems to be that institutions are now starting to differentiate between speculative software and genuine quality compounders with real cash flow and pricing power.
Feels like the market may have thrown out some quality names together with the weaker SAAS stories.
Polite thoughts?
When the largest German software company reports nice figures, I naturally want to pass them on to you straight away... $SAP (+3,93 %) 🇩🇪
- Cloud turnover: Increase of 19 % to 5.96 billion euros (expected: EUR 5.85 billion) / +27% adjusted for currency effects. 🟢
- Cloud ERP Suite sales: Growth of 23% to 5.21 billion euros (expected: EUR 5.10 billion) / +30% adjusted for currency effects. 🟢
- Cloud order backlog (current cloud backlog): Climbed by 20% to 21.9 billion euros (expected: EUR 21.5 billion) / +25% adjusted for currency effects. 🟢
- Total sales: Increased by 6% to 9.56 billion euros (expected: EUR 9.45 billion) / +12% adjusted for currency effects. 🟢
- Operating result (non-IFRS): Increased by 17% to 2.87 billion euros (expected: EUR 2.78 billion) / +24% adjusted for currency effects. 🟢
- Share buyback: In the 1st quarter, a tranche in the amount of 2.6 billion euros was completed in the first quarter (in line with previous announcements and market expectations).
Expectations & forecast (full year 2026)
Despite the complex geopolitical and macroeconomic environment, SAP confirms its optimistic outlook, which is in line with or slightly ahead of market consensus estimates:
- Cloud revenue: Company forecast is 25.8 to 26.2 billion euros (market expectation was around EUR 25.9 billion in advance).
- Cloud and software revenue: Forecast at 36.3 to 36.8 billion euros (market expectation: approx. 36.4 billion euros).
- Operating result (non-IFRS): Target at 11.9 to 12.3 billion euros (market expectation: EUR 12.0 billion).
- Free cash flow: The company anticipates around 10 billion euros (market expectation: EUR 9.8 to 10.0 billion).
- Dividend: Proposed dividend 2.50 euros per share for the past financial year 2025 (market expectation was EUR 2.45 to 2.50).
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I hope you all have a relaxing Friday and a good start to the weekend.
It's so green when profits go through the roof (or something like that).
Yesterday fortunately with around 10% in $SAP (+3,93 %) in. Let's see how long that lasts.
Dip of the $DTE (-0,49 %) also caught well yesterday at €28.11.
My former 25% thick-egg$ (+3,42 %)MSFT (+3,42 %) position is up around +10% in the portfolio after one week.
P.S.: Wild, almost 22 years ago and more relevant than ever.
Earnings season is fully underway now, and today I want to focus on what actually matters over the coming week. We’ve already had some heavy hitters reporting, most notably large banks like JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs and Citi. Overall, results were solid, with beats across the board.
One of my more recent holdings, BlackRock, also reported earlier this week. There was nothing out of the ordinary, just a strong quarter as expected, and the stock rebounded sharply, which puts my position roughly 10% in the green. The stock had been caught between private credit fears and a possible global energy crisis, but this latest report has reminded investors, once again, of the business’ strength. However, next week is where things get even more interesting for me personally.
The key question is how the so-called “SaaSpocalypse” will actually show up in the numbers. So far, even the seemingly most vulnerable platforms like Adobe are still delivering consistent growth with no real signs of weakness. Let’s see if that can continue, or if the “AI kills software” narrative survives another round.
Big names reporting next week include ServiceNow, Salesforce and SAP, all of which are deeply integrated ecosystems that keep multi-billion-dollar companies running. So as a shareholder, I wouldn’t worry too much. I actually considered adding to my already considerable ServiceNow position at $80, but before I could, the stock spiked again. Better luck next time, I guess.
Another area worth watching next week are brokers and exchanges like IBKR, CME and Nasdaq, which should give a fairly clean read on market activity. And of course, the “real” economy will be a major factor as well. Companies like General Electric, Boeing and D.R. Horton should give a better indication of how things are actually holding up, beyond what certain figures in the White House would like people to believe.
That’s the outlook for the early stages of this current earnings season. The most important reports, especially the ones I’m personally exposed to, will come later in the cycle and I’ll cover those separately.
On a more personal note, and don’t take this too seriously though, there is one company where I wouldn’t mind seeing a bad quarter, and that’s Intuitive Surgical. For a very simple reason: I want to buy it, but the valuation is still at exorbitant levels. Quite similar to Axon actually.
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