PLEASE DO NOT ALWAYS DELETE THE TEXT🥲 In short: all that glitters is not gold $IGLN (+1 %)
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Hello everyone, I’m new to investing and I’d like some advice for anyone who is willing and has some free time. Right now I’m considering removing the 10% I have in a dividend ETF and reallocating that into individual stocks. My core portfolio will stay around 70% in $VWCE (+0,76 %) , but I’m thinking of increasing my individual stock allocation to about 25%, mostly focused on tech — companies like AMD, Intel, Amazon, I might add some stuff later. I’d appreciate your thoughts on whether this shift makes sense.
My current portfolio:
70% in $VWCE (+0,76 %)
10% in a dividend ETF
15% in individual stocks
2% in $ETH (+0,73 %)
3% in $IGLN (+1 %)
New portfolio:
70% $VWCE (+0,76 %)
25% Individual stocks (mostly tech)
3% $IGLN (+1 %)
Beside Tech, I would add Emerging markets, but if you want to gamble, go with stocks in other trendy sectors e.g. Lockhead Martin, Maersk, Alibaba, Hercules Capital, Coinbase etc
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Hola,
Tras un tiempo por aquí, leyendo, aprendiendo de cada uno de vosotros (por aquí empecé a conocer el mundo de los ETF) y con solo apenas un par de años invirtiendo el ahorro de toda la vida, me lanzo a dar a conocer mi pequeño y modesto proyecto.
He visto y admirado carteras de auténticos millonarios, jóvenes que apuestan por su futuro con pocos miles de euros... yo empecé tarde a invertir y hoy, con 46 años, creo haber encontrado un punto donde me siento cómodo invirtiendo.
Debo diferenciar entre la parte procedente de mi ahorro vía trabajo (mi cartera en RV, oro y bonos), de la reserva vía herencia tras el fallecimiento reciente de mi padre.
Por eso hoy, muestro modelo dual, con un 30% total RV y un 70 de protección.
Renta variable:
$VWCE (+0,76 %) + $VHYL (+0,37 %) - $SPFE (+0,33 %) - $IGLN (+1 %)
VWCE. Gracias a vosotros, invierto en las 3600 mayores empresas del planeta. Es por supuesto la base que no quiero vender jamás y servirá de legado para mi hija.
Elegí VWCE frente a alternativas como ISAC. En realidad, ambas son fantásticas a largo plazo.
VHYL es un grifo. Gota a gota, cada trimestre, aporta dividendo de distribución a través de empresas consolidadas de todo el mundo. Y ese dividendo, tiene un destino... BTC.
SPFE. Tras mucha lectura, observo que un cuarentón como yo, necesita un aporte de estabilidad vía fondos. Y tras alternativas como VECA, me decanto por fondos de unos 7-8 años de edad, que proteja la parte VWCE/VHYL cuando caiga.
La razón de SPFE vs VECA, es ese goteo semestral de dividendos, también destino... BTC.
IGLN. El oro. Poco más que aportar que no se conozca ya sobre la importancia de ese 8-12% de oro en cualquier cartera a largo plazo.
Y... ahora lo que no suelo ver nunca:
Mi colchón líquido (como digo, procede de una herencia reciente y debo preservarlo al máximo. Ultraconservador. Solo quiero que la inflación apenas muerda céntimos de aqui). Es $XEON (-0 %) .
Solo uso XEON cuando la bolsa caiga un 10-15%, y con mucha prudencia, o cuando cualquier incidente importante en la familia me obligue a vender.
Y, mi boleto de lotería. Un 2% (limitado por mi mismo) de $BTC (+1,01 %) . Se financia vía dividendo VHYL y SPFE. Esos fondos de distribución, goteando gratis un activo que puede valer en 20 años x100 su precio actual, o nada.
BTC es lo unico que tengo permitido vender, cada vez que el caballo se desboque, por subir en exceso, reconducir a RV.
Simplemente, si habéis llegado hasta aquí, gracias por leerme. Como digo, no suelo ver carteras como la mía. Y no sé si puedo ayudar a alguien así.
Why I will never buy gold, why you shouldn't either and why the "safe haven" is an illusion. ⚓️🔥
Hey dear Getquiners, honest question: Do you think gold is crisis-proof?
In this post, I explain why I think gold is one of the worst assets of all and why the "scarcity" on the market is often a lie - because all that glitters is not gold 😉
1. the asset in a deep sleep 😴
Anyone who bought gold at the high in 1980 had to 26 years to get back to zero in nominal terms. Adjusted for inflation, this was a financial disaster. Is an asset really "stable in value" if it takes half a working lifetime to make up for mere losses? After the 2011 high, it also took approx. 9 years (until 2020) until the price broke out sustainably.
2. the gold that wasn't actually there. 👻
Gold is sold as a "limited resource". It has to be painstakingly mined, is physically limited and cannot be conjured up. But what if it is possible on paper?
The Morgan Stanley scandal: In 2007, it came to light that Morgan Stanley had not physically bought or stored gold for many clients at all. The bank only held "paper positions", but still collected the fees for the (non-existent) vault storage. The clients were not holding hard assets, just hot air.
The Bre-X scandal (1997): The company Bre-X Minerals claimed to have discovered the largest gold deposit in the world. Geologists "salted" the drill samples with gold dust (even from their own jewelry!) to keep up appearances. The shares shot up to a value of over 6 billion dollars before everything collapsed.
This begs the question: is the price of gold really linked to physical scarcity, or is it often just a hype chart created by expert opinions and blind bank confidence?
3. the volatility lie: 10% crash in 28 minutes? ⏱️📉
It is often said that gold is so great because it is less volatile. But is that true? Let's jump to January 30, 2026: On this day, gold lost almost 28 minutes almost 7 % of its value in just 28 minutes. Over the entire day, it was around 14 %. Don't even get me started on silver (30% fluctuation... cough).
Another example is the April 12, 2013At that time, sell orders for over 400 tons of gold were placed on the Comex in New York within a very short space of time (approx. 15% of annual global production). Gold plunged in two days by 15,5 % in two days. The absurdity: Not a gram of physical gold was moved. They were pure "paper promises". Someone pressed the sell button without ever having owned the metal.
My conclusion: For me, gold is neither stable nor crisis-proof. It is highly volatile and - most importantly - not protected by financial constructs. not infinitely limited. It can be "printed" on paper as much as you like. That's why it no longer has any real value for me.
What do you think? Would you still buy or hold gold after these facts? Let me know your opinion in the comments and leave a follow for more posts like this. Next, I'll write a post on the biggest gold scandals and show you what I think are the better alternatives! 🚀
Feel free to leave feedback, criticism is also welcome, because that's the only way to learn! 😉
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📊 Gold falls, Bitcoin rises - is gold losing its status as a crisis currency?
Dear Community,
Yesterday a user said that Bitcoin had replaced gold as a crisis currency.
(No, it is not @Klein-Anleger meant 🙄)
Justification: Currently rising $BTC (+1,01 %) while $4GLD (+1,16 %) falling.
I have a different (outdated?) opinion on this and would like to explain below why I cannot agree with this statement.
I look forward to your opinions. Because maybe I'm the one living under the moon. 🤷🏼♂️
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🥇 1. why gold is historically the number one crisis currency
Gold has established itself over decades (actually millennia) as the ultimate store of value.
The reasons:
- 🌍 Independent of states & currencies
- 🏦 No counterparty risk (no issuer, no payment default)
- 📉 Inflation protection
- ⚖️ Limited supply
👉 In real crises (2008 financial crisis, Corona 2020, geopolitical tensions), capital traditionally flows into gold
💡 Important:
Gold is not a "trade", but an anchor of confidence in the global financial system.
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📉 2. why gold is still falling at the moment
The current decline has nothing to do with a loss of confidence, but is primarily macro-driven:
1️⃣ High interest rates (Fed policy)
- Gold does not yield interest
- Rising yields make bonds more attractive
👉 Capital moves out of gold in the short term
2️⃣ Strong US dollar
- Gold is traded in USD
- Stronger dollar = gold more expensive for other countries
- Demand falls
3️⃣ Profit taking after rally
- Gold had a strong high before
- Short-term correction is normal
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🪙 3. why Bitcoin is currently rising
Bitcoin is currently benefiting from other factors:
- 📈 Speculation of monetary policy easing
- 💡 Narrative as "digital gold"
- 🏦 Institutional demand (ETFs etc.)
- 🌐 Short-term use as a "liquidity parking lot"
👉 Important:
Bitcoin is currently more of a risk asset with momentum, not a classic safe haven.
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⚖️ 4. The crucial difference: gold vs. bitcoin
Gold ($IGLN (+1 %) ):
- defensive
- stable
- proven in real crises
Bitcoin ($BTC (+1,01 %) ):
- volatile
- heavily dependent on liquidity
- often parallel to tech stocks
💡 Observation:
In real stress phases (e.g. liquidity crises), Bitcoin often falls first, while gold remains stable or rises.
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🧠 5 Why the current decline is not a warning signal
The most important point:
👉 Gold reacts more strongly to interest rates than to crises in the short term
Meaning:
- rising interest rates = short-term pressure
- Real systemic crisis = long-term rise
➡️ The current decline is therefore more of a macro effect, not a structural break.
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📊 6. what would have to happen for gold to rise again
Gold should benefit significantly again if:
- 📉 Interest rates fall
- 💵 the US dollar weakens
- 🌍 geopolitical risks continue to escalate
- 📉 Confidence in the financial system declines
👉 Then capital typically returns to traditional safe havens
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🧠 Conclusion
The current market seems contradictory:
- Gold is falling
- Bitcoin rises
👉 But this is not a paradigm shift.
Gold remains:
- the most stable store of value
- the classic crisis currency
Bitcoin is up to date:
- a liquidity-driven momentum asset
📌 In short:
👉 Gold is not losing importance -
👉 it is only overshadowed by macro factors in the short term.
Gold is the crisis currency and the safe haven not only because of these characteristics, but because gold has played this role for thousands of years and enjoys the corresponding trust. Bitcoin still has to earn this.
📉 Gold price falls below USD 5,000 - Fed & strong dollar put precious metal under pressure
After a strong rally, gold is currently undergoing a correction. The price has fallen below the psychologically important USD 5,000 per ounce mark - and there are clear reasons for this.
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$GLDA (+1,22 %)
$4GLD (+1,16 %)
$GOLD (+6,05 %)
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📊 1. current development
- Gold price most recently at around USD 5,019
- Previous all-time high: USD 5,420
- Decline: around -3% within a short period of time
💡 Classification:
After the strong rally, this is a classic technical correction - but with fundamental triggers.
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🏦 2nd main reason: Fed & interest rates
The most important driver at the moment:
👉 Uncertainty ahead of the interest rate decision by the US Federal Reserve (Fed)
- Markets are waiting for signals on interest rate cuts
- Interest rates remain high → negative for gold
- Why is that? Gold yields no interest and becomes less attractive with high yields
➡️ The Fed meeting is seen as a decisive turning point for future developments
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💵 3. strong US dollar as a burden
Another key factor:
- The US dollar is gaining strength
- This makes gold more expensive for international buyers
- Demand falls → price comes under pressure
👉 Classic correlation:
Stronger dollar = weaker gold price
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📉 4. important brands at a glance
Currently decisive:
- 🧱 Support: approx. 4,900 USD
- 🧠 Psychological mark: USD 5,000
➡️ A sustained break below this level could trigger further selling.
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⚖️ 5. Paradoxical situation on the market
Despite:
- geopolitical tensions
- inflation
- global uncertainty
... gold is currently weakening.
💡 Background:
Macro factors such as interest rates and the dollar are overshadowing safe-haven demand in the short term.
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🧠 Conclusion
The fall below USD 5,000 shows:
👉 Gold is currently not a sure-fire success
👉 Macro (Fed + dollar) dominates the market
Short term:
- High volatility
- Focus on Fed decision
Medium term:
- Gold could benefit strongly again if interest rates are cut
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NOC Purchase 💹
With this $NOC (-1,26 %) $5,000 purchase, we’ve officially distributed all the profits ($76,000) from our previous $AXTI (-7,37 %) position, across several positions :
$EWJ (+0,87 %) ($30,000)
$TAO (+5,2 %) ($15,000)
$IGLN (+1 %) ($5,500)
$MCHI ($20,000)
$ORCL (+2,99 %) ($700)
$NOC (-1,26 %) ($5,000)
Brief presentation of self-made ACWI-IMI portfolio with satellites
Hello dear Getquinners,
I started investing in securities at the beginning of the year.
For many years, we parked our assets in call money accounts, which meant that we lost money for years due to high inflation with (negative) compound interest effects. I now want to change this and have therefore decided to invest some of our assets in the capital market.
We are a family with two small children (aged 1 and 4). We parents are in our mid-30s and in the middle of our working lives.
My goals/hopes are:
- long-term investment >10 years and more
- Inflation protection and (real) asset accumulation beyond overnight interest rates
- If necessary, partial transfer of assets to help the children get started when they come of age
As I don't want to gamble, it should be as "simple" as possible to handle and I am not a daredevil, I have created a "boring" ACWI-IMI portfolio.
We have invested around 60%, the rest is free liquidity, which would last for around 12-14 months without income given our current cost of living. A little conservative perhaps, but that's a start. I also don't want to get scared if the markets take a nosedive.
This is how it looks:
75% core:
- 55% MSCI World $IWDA (+0,82 %)
- 10% MSCI World Small Cap $WSML (+1,06 %)
- 10% MSCI Emerging Markets IMI $EIMI (+2,04 %)
8.5% Precious metals
- Physical gold $IGLN (+1 %)
15% Satellites with approx. 2% each
- $IB1T (+0,83 %) Bitcoin share with high opportunity and high risk. Personally, I am not yet completely convinced of this position, I see the "intrinsic" value of a (this) digital currency as being confronted with major environmental problems and am therefore critical. On the other hand, it is supposed to be "digital gold". We will see in the future what is true and what is not...
- $SEMI (+4,31 %) and $XDWT (+1,47 %) I believe in the AI boom and growing markets in digitalization, and see growth opportunities there, but also risks. Naturally increases the USA share in the portfolio...
- $$DFEN (+1,37 %) : Anti-cyclical position in the current increasingly global conflicts. Defense spending is rising worldwide...
- $WMIN (+2,38 %) and $RARE (+2,64 %) as a commodity mix in basic materials. See this as an opportunity with risk, but perhaps this also reacts anti-cyclically to weak markets
- $GERD (+1,01 %) as a personal experiment, as I have read and heard a lot from Gerd Kommer. Can be seen as a core holding, perhaps as a benchmark to the core. I wanted to give it a try.
I also toyed with $WNUC (+1,91 %) but I have to think about whether I really want to invest in nuclear technology (personally subjective thing...). I also read and follow 3XGTAA with interest, but that's too risky for me (for now), for now I'll stay in the World fairway...
Monthly savings installments go equally into the core. I plan to rebalance once a year during the Christmas vacations.
I read a lot in the community and regularly follow the posts. Time and again I also read negative statements about sector and industry bets.
I would be interested to know what you think of my portfolio and why some of you think that sector and sector bets are bad.
Thank you for your feedback and for your consistently excellent contributions to the community!
Question on gold ETC reallocation ?????
Hello and best regards from Bavaria,
I have the iShars Physical Gold ETC in my portfolio $IGLN (+1 %) .
Custody account value approx. 12,500€, of which 4,500€ are price gains.
I took it at the time because it was the largest gold ETC at TradeRepublic.
After researching, I found out that this gold ETC is not tax-exempt. This means that if I were to sell it now, I would be subject to withholding tax, etc.
At the same time, I have just opened a custody account with JustTrade. Actually only to invest a very small part in Epi's (@Epi ) Wikifolio.
There I saw that the Xetra Gold $4GLD (+1,16 %) is available.
This is tax-free after a holding period of one year.
Now my question:
1. sell the existing iShares ETC and take the tax deduction in full and switch to the Xetra? Disadvantage here: The tax deduction of around €1000 is lost and can no longer "work" for me.
2. or simply keep the iShares ETC and only save in xetra Gold in future? Disadvantage here: If the gold price continues to rise, the price gain on the iShares ETC will also continue to rise. As a result, the withholding tax payable on a later sale will continue to rise.
What would you decide on, or your opinion?
Best regards
Incidentally, you can save at TradeRepublic at $WGLD, where you also have the option of having the gold delivered to you



