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274Swing trade terminated
Since the target zone of $CPRX (+0.19%) has been reached, I have now sold the shares and will reinvest the money in $SAP (-2.11%) as, in my opinion, there is a good opportunity there and the market is certainly "taking the software too hard".
Thanks again to @Aktienhauptmeister for the 260 euros haha <3

Stagnating portfolio - a question of time or nonsense?
After a long time of active trading and many reallocations, I would like to share my current portfolio transparently with you and deliberately collect feedback / discussions from the community :) (so ready for a qualified roast)
I originally come from the "active" corner with many certificates, warrants and tactical trades - some very successful, some with total losses. Over time, I've realized that although you can land some strong individual hits, the long-term capital allocation and structure of the portfolio is ultimately decisive.
I am therefore currently trying to realign my portfolio:
On the one hand, to continue to take advantage of opportunities for above-average returns, but on the other hand to finally build up a stable ETF/fund base.
My basic assumptions about the market at the moment:
- Many large tech stocks still look ambitiously valued or overheated to me
- In the medium term, I expect rotation rather than a linear "everything continues to rise" trend
That's why my portfolio currently looks a little unusual:
- large positions as a basis in AI & biotech funds, which currently have paused savings plans (due to overheating) ($KJGJC0 (+0.69%) & $DWWD (-3.01%) )
- plus turnaround bets such as Nike or Pernod Ricard (many repeat purchases, now a bit of a stomach ache) ($NKE (-4.77%) / $RI (-0.56%) )
- Macro/future themes such as copper, rare earths or quantum computing (under construction) ($ARU (+2.52%) , $COPA (+1.56%) , $QNTM (+1.56%) , $WSML (+0.22%) )
- and occasionally leveraged products and software stocks ($MSFT (-3.18%) , $SAP (-2.11%) , $NOW (-4.43%) , $MC (+1.73%) ,...)
My goal now is to build up the whole thing in a cleaner and more structured way and finally set my sights on the 100k.
I have about €2,000 per month available to invest and would like to use it to
- build up a strong ETF/fund base
- but at the same time consciously make individual high-conviction bets
- and significantly scale my portfolio in the long term
What suggestions / recommendations do you have for me with regard to further ETFs or individual positions?
I am also happy to receive critical feedback or counterarguments to my theses. That's exactly why I'm sharing the portfolio here 🙂
Why don't you sell your turnaround bets if you have been unsuccessful so far and have bought so much that you have a stomach ache?
If you no longer believe in it, then sell it and shift it to where the money is working for you, for example in an ACWI or FTSE Al World.
Next Satelite
After my entry with the 1st tranche at $BRK.B (+0.35%) I wanted to add a bit of Europe to the portfolio and opened up my next long Satelite and also placed the 1st tranche here - welcome $SAP (-2.11%) .
With the aim of further reducing the cash position and this favorable purchase price, you can only get weak...
Buy anticyclically
Everyone hates $NOW (-4.43%) but also everyone hates $SAP (-2.11%) .
Trance 2/3
Quo Vadis Wolters Kluwer
The figures weren't actually that bad, but the share price has been falling by double digits every quarter for about a year now. Today it's also going down again without any apparent reason. Yes, SaaS apocalypse and all that.
GetQuinn says my total return is about -70%.
In the meantime, I'm thinking about simply putting the few bucks left over from my investment into an ETF, e.g. the $TDIV (+0.08%) . even if a bottom were reached at some point, I hardly believe that the share would outperform this ETF or any other, for example. what do you think? Keep holding or get out and into an ETF?
I am also thinking about something similar with $SAP (-2.11%) .
If your investment thesis didn't change then you should not sell it regardless of what the stock price says.
Stock price doesn't mean that you are wrong or right, it simply tells you what others think of the company you own right now.
If you truly believe in the moat your companies have you should't sell.
If you bought the company because of hype or if your investment thesis changed then you should sell
Milestone reached 🎉
After just over a year, I broke the 20k barrier 🥰! I really started the stock market adventure without much prior knowledge, but thanks to the community and acquiring knowledge about shares and the like, I was able to achieve an absolutely reasonable return. 💰
Thanks to everyone who contributes so regularly and actively shapes the forum. I would like to contribute more myself, but due to time management I hardly manage to do any research and provide good content... THANK YOU 🎉
I currently have another €1000 ready to invest and have been toying with the idea for a while now $SAP (-2.11%) . More diversity towards Europe/DE might not be bad...?
Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas for improvement?
Thanks to the entire community and especially to and @Tenbagger2024
@Aktienhauptmeister
@Simpson
@Multibagger for your efforts 🥹
SAAS bear run and the possible return of Microsoft.
So what’s everyone’s take on $MSFT (-3.18%) right now?
Heard today on a call that a lot of institutions are starting to add again to quality SAAS positions in names like $MSFT (-3.18%)
$CRM (-3.95%)
$SAP (-2.11%) with the view that the recent bear run across enterprise software may have been overdone. I would be staying clear of companies like $ADBE (-3.67%) but i cant help but think that $MSFT (-3.18%) is an interesting play.
Over the last 12 to 18 months, a lot of software names have been hit pretty hard as the market rotated away from high multiple growth and towards profitability, cash flow and AI monetisation. Rising rates compressed valuations, enterprise spending slowed, and there were concerns that companies would cut back on cloud and software budgets after the huge post COVID expansion cycle.
At the same time, there’s also been a growing debate around whether AI could actually disrupt parts of the traditional software model itself, especially for smaller SAAS companies without real moats.
But when you look at names like $MSFT, it feels slightly different. You’re talking about a company with massive recurring revenues, deep enterprise integration through Office, Azure and Teams, one of the strongest balance sheets in the market, and arguably one of the best positioned companies globally for AI deployment and monetisation.
The bear case is obviously valuation and whether AI expectations have got too far ahead of themselves. But the bull case seems to be that institutions are now starting to differentiate between speculative software and genuine quality compounders with real cash flow and pricing power.
Feels like the market may have thrown out some quality names together with the weaker SAAS stories.
Polite thoughts?
Low-teens forward EV/EBITDA looks interesting until you see the $190bn capex bill.
Nobody's forced to size up. So nobody does :)
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