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Hello community.

As some of you have already noticed, the grandpa is very dividend-oriented and cash flow is the maxim. My portfolio with currently just under 250k consists of 64% equities, 21% Bund and US short-dated bonds, some ETFs, some bonus certificates and physical gold. As the majority of my income comes from interest, dividends and rental income, I have been able to live very well with my additional high cash holdings from overnight and fixed-term deposits. Slowly but surely, this comfortable time is coming to an end for a security-conscious old man and he is starting to rethink and restructure. I may be 60 and no longer have a long-term investment horizon, but I can still plan for the medium term of 5 to 10 years. 250k is still tied up for 1 to 4 years at good fixed deposit interest rates for me (3.8 to 4.5%) with an annual payout. Now ING has come across me and is offering 3.3% overnight money via an extra account for 6 months, which I'll take. The free custody account too. And that brings us to the topic. I put 150k in the call money account (yes, I know deposit protection) and set up savings plans on ETFs with 8k per month for the next 1.5 years.

Of course I can't get away from cash flow completely, but a little growth with a manageable sum can't hurt. The basic idea is 50% in the world, 20% in dividends, 10% emerging, 10% Europe and 10% Russel.

US should already be appropriately weighted, I am not directly invested in tech, this should improve via world ETFs and I would also like to consider the rest of the world and a few dividends.

I have made the following pre-selection (as I said, it's about 8K per month in the savings plan):


50% world, half of this in $XDWL (-0,63 %) and the other half in$HMWO (-0,63 %) . Both very similarly structured, TER ok, both distributing, but in different months.


20% dividend ETF, half of which is in $TDIV (-0,3 %) and the other in $SEDY (-0,35 %) The latter one-fifth in China, the risk is manageable, otherwise a bit of a watering can and overall a small US share in both, which I cover via direct investments as I said.


10% in $IMEU (-0,44 %) which covers areas in which I have no exposure apart from $NOVO B (-0,41 %) and $HSBA (-1,14 %) I have no positions worth mentioning.


10% in $HMEF (-1,08 %) China, yes over 20%, the rest is ok for me and also includes information technology and financial services, which are very underrepresented in my portfolio.


10% in $IWM (-0,72 %) I am sticking to my US weighting and speculating on further effects from future interest rate cuts, even if some of this has already been priced in.


Finally, I would like to point out that I am not interested in the decimal place of the TER.

Overnight money will yield significantly less in the near future, growth does not harm my investment strategy, but it does not have to be the maximum return that can be achieved.

Putting everything into dividend stocks is suboptimal, so why not go "relatively risk-reduced" into ETFs in the medium term with part of my money.

Please give me your valued opinion on the approach and the chosen stocks, thanks for reading and have a sunny weekend.

Your dividend topi

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"EM Dividend" is not a good investment, pays out a lot but the total return is rather negative when adjusted for inflation.
If you want dividends from emerging markets, avoid indices with a "high dividend" selection at all costs, but rather something with a quality factor, or simply the dividend-paying MSCI EM IMI.
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Why not make your own new dividend portfolio? And I don't know about dividends, so I'd rather have the good individual stocks. It's not about risk, half of them are just garbage
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You have my blessing!
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I think that reads very well and I think you can do very little wrong. However, you forgot Bitcoin in your post🤪
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@stefan_21 it was so clear to me that something was coming with BTC 😂🤑. I am in the process of familiarizing myself with the topic and will also invest a portion here, I think around 50k is appropriate as an addition. However, I don't like the fees/spreads and third-party custody at this level. And until I can solve this satisfactorily, I unfortunately have to wait with the investment. I now have an account with Bison, but that is simply too expensive for me and my knowledge is not sufficient for further alternatives.
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@Dividendenopi I think it's great that you're reading up on the subject. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask :D
For the amount, I would actually recommend Binance... 0.1% fee.

I wouldn't do third-party custody. If I were you, I'd get a hardware wallet like the BitBox02, send the Bitcoin up there, done.
I would then stamp the 24 words in steel (you can buy sets online) and put them in a safe and then nothing can really happen to you :)

If you are looking for a contact person who will take you by the hand and advise you and help you set up the wallet, you could actually go to VR Bank Bayern Mitte. They've been doing this for I think 3 years now. They offer Bitcoin information sessions and then guide you step by step through the process of buying Bitcoin and storing it on your own hardware wallet. However, I don't know what fees they charge :)
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@stefan_21 clean👌VR Bank Bayern Mitte almost hits my home, born in Regensburg, but the idea is good, I'm with VR Niederbayern/Oberpfalz with overnight money, I'll see if there's something there and can make my next visit home meaningful and not just at the Italian... Third-party custody is also tricky for me, I also buy my gold anonymously and physically despite poorer prices, so I wouldn't want to be robbed of my potential freedom with crypto. Bison sounds simple and "secure", but then I'll wait a bit and take a look at BitBox, @Testo-Investor has also introduced a hardware wallet, which seems coherent to me overall, regardless of what the individual thinks of crypto or not. Not an all in for me but definitely a must have at the given time. I'm on it and thank you for your offer, which I will certainly take you up on!
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@Dividendenopi very nice, I was actually born in the Upper Palatinate, but now live in Munich :D

In principle, it doesn't matter which hardware wallet you use.
The Tangem Wallet that Testo presented is very modern and has a cool concept with the NFC chip - it's also relatively cheap, but I'm a little bothered by the fact that it doesn't have a display.

As far as I know, the VR Bank Bayern Mitte always recommends the Bitbox02 and alternatively a coldcard, i.e. a kind of check card with a public key on the front and the private key sealed on the back - so you wouldn't even need a hardware wallet, but would have a paper wallet :D
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Sounds like a sensible plan 😊👍

I would guess split it 2/3 in a core ETF, World or S&P500 rest in Reit 😊
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@Simpson Yaaaaay 😉 I wasn't going to make it any more complicated than necessary. Two hearts beating in my chest.... S&P 500 and World is almost all US and little cash flow. I would like to get away from that.
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@Dividendenopi Choose 25 good aristocrats and save for them every month 😂

I know it's a difficult decision and only you can make it for yourself bist☺️👍
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@Simpson Just open a SimpsonBeatsAll-ETF and everything will be fine. 😂 Yes, 25 aristocrats aren't the issue and neither is saving, in 2 years I'll post my portfolio and be told that there are far too many individual stocks, why not just one ETF..... Joking aside, I'm with you and from January I'll also have the time to deal intensively with so many individual securities for 8 hours a day. But I don't want to deal with even more stocks, you can't make up for time for yourself with any return. At least not in the summer 😇😎
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Reads a bit too complex for me
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@DonkeyInvestor Donkeys are just cognitively simple 🤷‍♀️😉. Substantiate complex? Or donkeyish: Allda, what specifically do you not understand. 🤔🤔
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@Dividendenopi I understand everything. But I find it too complex. You have a dividend portfolio, but you also hold dividend ETFs. You have a World ETF and also EM and Europe in your portfolio. You complain about the high US share, which you want to balance out, but you have the Russel ...

It reads as if you are pursuing several goals in parallel with different strategies. And I'm not a fan of that
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@DonkeyInvestor Right, simply adding to dividend stocks and letting them run would of course be an option. 30 or 40 k in $BATS or $MO is attractive, but I don't dare because of the cluster risk. $VICI and $O I will still adjust the equity balance. I don't have the big stocks in the dividend ETF except $VZ, $HSBA and $BMY. And the $TDIV has just under 30% US, measured against the total in both ETFs little additional US share. EM and Europe nothing else with USA. The US share in the World is mainly in tech, I am not directly invested there. The Russel is speculative, could alternatively take a small cap Euro or World. And yes, I am pursuing a parallel goal with different strategies. My capital is my income.
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@Dividendenopi What do you think about pursuing a goal with a strategy? That's exactly what makes it unnecessarily complex in my view.
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$TDIV is not possible with ING via a savings plan.
I would invest everything directly instead of messing around with savings plans. Statistically speaking, you're better off that way.
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@six ok, thanks for the tip, as the account has only just been opened, I have not yet had the opportunity to test what is feasible. Everything pure at the moment is not a good idea from my point of view, I would like to pull it a bit with the amount of the investment.
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I haven't done the math, but if you take the distributing ACW, you probably have a similar distribution and a similarly high dividend, but everything is much simpler 😉
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@Zackdela79 Do you mean the ACW (X)?
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@Dividendenopi I mean the $VWRL
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You should have growed your investments while young and change to dividends now at your age, you kinda did it all im reverse order, cant expect to grow a lot now.
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@Darknoites I have the money and cash flow is the most important thing. Fixed-interest investments are too boring for me and everything in dividend stocks is too risky. Therefore some growth combined with regular distributions
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High dividend etfs are normally trash anf end up losing you a lot of money in the long run
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Really great ideas, although I still have some questions ...., i.e. what is best to do yourself
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