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Why the heck does he have Coverd Call ETFs in his portfolio? TL:tr

🛡️ My "3-pillar portfolio": cash flow as an interest shield before 2028


Hello community,


Since there are controversial discussions under every post about CC ETfs

-> here are my reasons why I have them in my portfolio (and yes I have ki in the conversation)


At the age of 43, I am not only concerned with growth, but above all with risk management - because my real estate interest commitment expires on 30.09.2028, with a remaining debt of € 147,000.


My goal is to set up the portfolio in such a way that I can either offset the refinancing costs or pay off the debt completely.


1. the logic: cash flow meets growth


My investments are divided into three pillars with a clear function:


The cash flow engine

$JEPQ (-2,63%) & $JEGP (-0,74%) /JEPI

Generation of high monthly income (option premiums)


The growth cores

$HMWO (-1,46%) (MSCI World) & $VUSA (-1,53%) (S&P 500)

Long-term build-up of capital and substance


2. the strategy:

Two phases for the JPM cash flow (approx. 450 € net/month)

I use the high monthly net income from JEPQ/JEPI flexibly in two phases to achieve my goals:


🟢 Phase 1: Accumulation (Currently until approx. 2027)

* Measure: The monthly JPM distributions are reinvested directly into the VUSA ETF.

* Purpose: Utilize interest rate arbitrage (pay 1.88% interest, generate 8-10% gross return) to accelerate growth capital. The reinvestments are expected to increase the VUSA portfolio by over € 30,000 by the reporting date!

* In addition: The HMWO will continue to be built up separately with its own savings rate.


🔴 Phase 2: The interest shield (from 2028)

* Measure:

Reinvestment ends. The JPM cash flow is used to offset the increased monthly burden of the follow-up financing.


* Result: Even with a pessimistic 5.0% interest rate, the additional monthly burden of approx. +€227 is more than doubly compensated by the JPM cash flow (approx. €450 net).


Growth in VUSA and HMWO can continue.


3. the ultimate flexibility in October 2028


Thanks to the deposit cushion of an estimated € 259,000 built up over the next few years, I can choose freely on the refinancing date:

* Option A (Further growth): finance € 147,000 at the then applicable interest rates and subsidize the higher rate with the JPM cash flow. The entire growth deposit is retained.

* Option B (debt-free): Partially liquidate the deposit and pay off the €147,000 remaining debt in full. The property would be debt-free and my rental income of €520 would be pure surplus.


4. the tax advantage

Since all my ETFs (JEPQ, JEPG, VUSA, HMWO) receive the 30% partial exemption for equity funds, there is no tax disadvantage for the high-yield JPM funds compared to the growth stocks.


In addition, the rising interest costs of the property can be offset against the total income for tax purposes as income-related expenses from 2028.


Conclusion: I deliberately trade maximum capital growth in strong bull markets for financial security and compensation with a calculable real estate debt risk.


The JPM ETFs are

my active "interest rate buffer". -> we'll see if that works out


@Koenigmidas -> we've already had this conversation on another channel😅

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I understand your strategy of the two monthly distributing ETFs. But what is the point of a yield of 9.6% if the price has a 6% annualized dividend and the second one even has an 8.2% dividend, but loses 10% per year?
I don't understand the point. Almost every normal ETF yields more. 🤷🏼‍♂️
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@TradingHase not every year there will be Tariffs of Mr Trump (or will he continue his BS?). We all know cc etfs lost as much as other etfs in april and are recovering worse than other etfs, but don't forget that they kept up their premium outputs and this at a higher yield than in 2024. Cc ucits etfs are still performing as they should, so if he likes them for what they do and they are doing that, what is the problem? I don't see him criticizing everyone here that is riding the AI wave or are all in on bitcoin (and neither am I), but when someone on GQ mentions dividends or cc etfs, a lot of people come to say that investing like that makes no sense. It does makes sense, just not to you, but to him and it is his money
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@JorisInvests I don't see any criticism in my comment. I just wanted to understand his approach, which he was best able to explain himself.
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Thank you for your contribution. I can understand that very well.

When discussing cc-ETFs or dividend portfolios in general, the comparison with growth stocks is often made and it is argued that growth and tech stocks perform better for wealth accumulation. In principle, this is true, but different people have different priorities and approaches.

My wealth accumulation comes from leveraged, rented real estate. This works well, but it is not passive income, as there are always things to be done and adjustments to be made. Also, real estate cannot be liquidated/sold quickly.
My portfolio should therefore generate income that I don't have to worry about. The securities are an asset buffer that can be liquidated quickly if necessary, and boring and generally more stable dividend stocks and ETFs are better suited for this than a portfolio of potentially volatile growth stocks.

That doesn't mean that dividends are better than growth or tech. For me, however, the dividend approach fits in well with my overall strategy. Among other things, I want to be able to show banks at the next financing round that my monthly budget surplus is high enough to get favorable conditions because of the dividends I receive.
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@Epi I already came up with that 😂
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@SchlaubiSchlumpf The title explains why I have linked the video again. 😜
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@Epi Jo he has made a total of 3 videos about it 😂
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@SchlaubiSchlumpf because it works on YouTube, not because he is 100% correct. Great youtuber, love his content, but when he is 65, he will have 10% cc etfs in his portfolio for sure 😉😅😉. Never say never...
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@JorisInvests for me it’s not about the person. But Ben has the tendency to cite real studies and goes a very data driven approach. If data doesn’t support a standpoint he doesn’t.
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@SchlaubiSchlumpf these are my thoughts on it
Thanks for your discussion under the last post
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@GoDividend thanks I'll take a look tomorrow ❤️
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Yes, we had the conversation on November 24, 2024. 😂 But thanks for the refresher.
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@Koenigmidas so lange her
Herrje
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