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🚨 Anthropic vs. OpenAI: Is the AI House of Cards Shaking?

In the latest episode of the Doppelgänger Tech Talk podcast (588), there was an extremely intriguing theory about Anthropic’s upcoming IPO and the potential ripple effects for OpenAI.


Here’s a summary of the key points from the discussion (written by Claude, reviewed by me 🤓):


1. Anthropic’s IPO Move

Anthropic is reportedly aiming for an IPO with a valuation of up to $2 trillion. Whether that figure is realistic remains to be seen—but the timing is strategically extremely clever. Anthropic is in a cleaner position structurally and financially (or has at least disclosed fewer unprofitable, dead-weight structures) than OpenAI.

If they go public as the first pure-play AI-SaaS company, they’ll set the valuation benchmark for the entire sector.


2. The Trap for OpenAI

For OpenAI, this move could become a problem:

  • Hard numbers instead of hype: An IPO forces transparency (S-1 filing). Once the actual margins, capital expenditures (CapEx), and massive losses of model providers are exposed on the public market, OpenAI will have to be judged against these realities.
  • Sales Struggles: OpenAI is already struggling with commercial execution (it recently replaced its second head of sales within a year).
  • Valuation Setback: If OpenAI fails to meet the astronomical valuation expectations in its own IPO, the foundation of its equity fundraising will crumble.


3. The Domino Effect: Data Centers & CapEx

OpenAI has massive infrastructure commitments and data center projects (including within the Nvidia ecosystem and with Microsoft) in the pipeline.

If raising capital through the capital markets doesn’t go as hoped, there simply won’t be enough money for hardware, energy, and computing power. Without computing power, training the next generations of models will stall—and the technological lead threatens to melt away.


--- End of Claude ---


💬 Question for the group:

If OpenAI actually finds itself in a fundamental funding crisis because its cost structures are too unprofitable for the public market and the billion-dollar infrastructure promises become unaffordable due to a) no IPO or b) no more funding rounds—Anthropic comparison... fresh off the press: $NVDA (+0,33%) cuts funding commitments from 250 billion to 120 billion

https://www.heise.de/news/Nvidia-will-Milliardenrisiko-bei-OpenAIs-Rechenzentrum-begrenzen-11415946.html


Is this a realistic scenario, and if so, are we facing the “dot-com moment” of the AI markets, will the CapEx bubble surrounding Nvidia & Co. burst, or will the Big Tech cash flow giants like $META (+0,2%)
$MSFT (+0,26%)
$GOOG (-0,04%) take the helm? Will $AAPL (-0,21%) just buy OpenAI from the sidelines?


Let’s take a look into the crystal ball 🔮

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I wouldn't invest a single cent in OpenAI. But I would in Anthropic.
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It’s interesting that you’re applying Anthropic’s AI to your thesis of all things. It would be interesting to see ChatGPT’s counter-assessment. 😅 I strongly suspect that the first mover here will clearly set the benchmark. We’ll see who that is and what the financials actually look like. At Anthropic, too, the focus right now is primarily on the run rate, which has little to no fundamental significance. I’m curious and will be closely following how things unfold here. An Anthropic IPO would still appeal to me, though.😁
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@Get_Rich_or_Die_Tryin Good point 😂 Maybe we should discuss this with ChatGPT sometime.
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I think OpenAI might go under, but the capacity and chips will still be sold off. So I'm not too worried about that.
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IPOs have been postponed until 2027, haven't they?
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@Smudeo In the podcast, there was talk that it will probably be in the fall, around October. The upside is that the Q3 numbers aren't out yet—so they wouldn't have to, or couldn't, be released—and a great outlook could certainly still be sold well through the end of the year.
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@finanzperpetuum Ah, thanks. After the SpaceX IPO, they said it would likely be postponed until 2027.
I'll definitely subscribe; $SPCX also yielded a +30% return in just a few days.
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@Smudeo Nope, Anthropic's S-1 filing is expected this month, with year-over-year growth of 1,400% and annualized revenue of 150–200 billion.
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