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BMW, Mercedes & Co.: still hope?

Hey everyone,

Unfortunately, not every sale is a profit - I'm currently down around 30% with BMW, Mercedes, VW and Porsche Holding.

$VOW (-0,36%)
$MBG (+0,46%)
$BMW (-0,15%)
$PAH3 (+0,05%)

The dividends are nice, but what would you do? Hold or sell?

Alternatively, I would shift them into an ACWI ($ISAC) (-1,53%) to shift them.

Thank you for your assessment!

Greetings Dagobert

18 Commenti

Sansebastian@Sansebastian

As the automotive sector is of little interest to me (with the exception of $RACE), I would sell and regroup

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Dagobert D.@bbh_saver_

@Sansebastian All right, thanks for your assessment!

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PillePlutonium@CaptCorkRecords

I am still holding Porsche. The share is really taking a deep breath, but will recover. Take 5% dividend yield & let it run.
Porsche is financially robust, but, as I said, it will struggle. Weak sales in China and possible US tariffs will continue to weigh on the stock. 27 would be an extremely critical support level.

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Nobody@Nobody_123

I hold BMW and Benz and would like to get into Porsche, but I don't have the necessary small change 😒

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Dagobert D.@bbh_saver_

@Nobody_123 I also have Porsche in my portfolio.
But they are definitely not for sale 😉

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SomeRandomGuy@SomeRandomGuy

Unfortunately, I don't believe in a turnaround at this level. I hold Mercedes and BMW, but not at 30% down.

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Stefan@Da_Fischi

I continue to hold VW and Porsche and can well imagine that things will pick up again by the end of 2026.

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Dagobert D.@bbh_saver_

@Da_Fischi Thanks for your assessment! 😊

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daddyinvestiert@daddyinvestiert

I would continue to hold for the time being and collect the dividends. You can always sell when the shares are higher.

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Dagobert D.@bbh_saver_

@daddyinvestiert That is a valid point.
Thank you for your assessment!

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F@Cai-pirinha

15H

i got rid of my car shares even before the whole sinking flight and would advise you to do the same. personally, i would sell at least half of them, namely VW and mercedes. porsche already stands out from the others, and i personally have the best feeling about the whole topic of "transformation", i.e. further development, with BMW. I would put VW in last place, at least with mercedes you can see that they are tackling new issues and are also working properly on the ecosystem and breaking new ground here, which is what is needed.
as the previous speaker said, that's how i see it too, i see cars as a very difficult to uninteresting investment at the moment, with the exception of $RACE - and $1211

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Dagobert D.@bbh_saver_

@Cai-pirinha Thank you for your assessment and the detailed explanation!

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investment_pro_yxfbw@investment_pro_yxfbw

Buy later.... are cyclicals.... you buy them when they are low and sell when they are high.... think back to 2008...nobody wanted a Mercedes then. In 5 years at the latest they will be twice as high.

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Dagobert D.@bbh_saver_

@investment_pro_yxfbw Thank you for your assessment!

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Ata@Atacama

The question is, what is your goal?
Dividends, capital appreciation,...
And what time horizon are you thinking in? 1 year, 5 years or longer?
I would make the decision dependent on this....

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Dagobert D.@bbh_saver_

@Atacama Good question: the goal is definitely value growth. I see dividends more as motivation.
The investment horizon is at least +10 years (if not significantly longer).

So in terms of time, I have no problem sitting out the losses.
I would rather ask myself whether the money would not be better invested in a broadly diversified ETF.

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Dagobert D.@bbh_saver_

@Atacama Supplement: This is also a small proportion of the portfolio: approx. 1.5%

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Tobi@Tobiwankenobi500

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OWN OPINION:

I think that German car manufacturing in its current form is slowly dying. The horse will be ridden until it is dead ("Made in GER", profiteering from brand names and model series etc....)

In the long term - with a lot of staying power - some will "recover".
In other words, once the green valley of socialist tears (sorry I had to use that one) has been crossed, things will start to look up again.

In terms of values, I am therefore minimally invested in $P911 - I think this is OK due to its innovative strength and the brand.
For all others, I am rather very negative under the current management + left/green climate ideology.

I myself would - depending on the entry value - leave the stocks or sell and reallocate.

In BYD, for example ;)

LG Tobi

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