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3496What to do with shitcoin losses?
Hi everyone,
what to do with admittedly badly performing Shitcoins. I have a few cryptoposis via Etoro. Bissl $BTC (-1,71%)
$ETH (-1,63%) but also $SOL (-1,13%)
$ADA (-1,76%)
$XLM (-1,32%)
$DOGE (-1,19%)
Why? Surely 90% Fomo and 10% persuaded that is somehow risk diversification. I've been thinking for weeks about what to do now. $BTC (-1,71%) and $ETH (-1,63%) I still have hodl vibes.
I really don't know what to do with the others. I'm down around 35% here. Doesn't hurt me at the moment because I don't need the money. But somehow, as a gambler's pose, you could probably do something better with it.
Best regards
Mig

DONT HODL THAT SHIT
little reminder you sweet Bitcoin hodlers.
But you know anyway: you would have $BTC (-1,71%) exchanged for fiat long ago and made a nice life for yourselves
Delicious pizza
Hey shitcoiners,
have a nice Bitcoin Pizza Day :)
Unfortunately I'm too lazy to edit the whole story for you.
Blog: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.0
Story: https://www.blocktrainer.de/blog/happy-bitcoin-pizza-day
By the way: Don't laugh at Lazlo or Jeremy for buying 10,000 $BTC (-1,71%) pizzas and computer games.
You wouldn't have them in your wallet or portfolio either

Crypto savings plan - Kryptowinter and the 10% allocation
Blunt is blunt - the crypto savings plan continues unchanged. Although I have already reached my target allocation of 10 % through special tranches, I am now deliberately continuing to disproportionately invest in the crypto position.
Why? Because I am overriding the logic of my head (which is calling for a rebalancing) in order to continue collecting the favorable entry prices of the crypto winter. If it goes even lower in the next execution: gladly! In the long term, the current EK doesn't matter anyway.
Crypto savings plans:
$BTC (-1,71%) 250,- €
$ETH (-1,63%) 50,- €
$SOL (-1,77%) 50,- €
BTC position in the red
I would actually like to have a little less $BTC (-1,71%) in the portfolio (currently around 30%) but I am down 10%. Would you still reduce or wait until the price rises again? I still believe in Btc and don't really need the money, but would like to reallocate.
Altcoins defy risk-off sentiment as hopes for CLARITY Act cushion Bitcoin outflows
Digital investment products saw outflows of USD 1.07 billion - the first negative week in seven weeks and the third largest weekly outflow of 2026, surpassed only by two weeks at the end of January. This likely reflects renewed geopolitical risk-off sentiment related to developments around Iran, with outflows concentrated mainly in $BTC (-1,71%).
The news surrounding the CLARITY Act appears to have improved sentiment at the margin: Eleven assets continued to see notable inflows, and Thursday was positive with inflows of $174 million. Altcoins held up remarkably well. $XRP (-1,62%) The largest asset class, the cryptocurrency, saw inflows of 67.6 million US dollars, $SOL (-1,77%) The inflow of USD 55.1 million - for both, the momentum accelerated compared to the previous weeks.
Depot conversion? 😊
Good evening getquin community,
First of all, a bit about me:
I am 25 years old and have been investing for 2.5 years. I'm currently training to become a technical product designer because I just didn't like my old job anymore. In relation to this, my monthly savings rate is "only" around €400. In 1.5 years, however, I will have finished my training and my savings rate will increase.
Now to my problem:
I have a - in my opinion - (very) vulnerable portfolio where there is some gambling involved. Maybe that's because I think I want to get a lot out of it with a low savings rate per month. So far, however, nothing has really gone wrong. In any case, I'm happy with the companies I've chosen in the long term. Despite all this, I can't get rid of the idea of simply investing stubbornly in 2 ETFs and continuing to invest in Bitcoin. That would put less stress on my inner self and I can just let my savings plan run its course.
How would you go about it? Continue with the current portfolio and buy on dips? What is your opinion on my current portfolio? Do you think I am better off with 2x ETF ($IWDA (-0,45%) & $EIMI) (+1,92%) and 1x $BTC (-1,71%) better?
Attached is my current portfolio.
I look forward to any comments and would be grateful if you could help me with my decision!😊🐍☝🏼
Boring is sometimes better, in the long run you are probably better off with a 70/30 or 100% all world.
But since you've already started, you could consider selling your Microsoft, MC Donald and Allianz shares and putting them into one or more ETFs. The core, so to speak. You can then add speculative stocks such as Xiaomi, Iren and Novo Nordisk as satellites. I also have all three in my portfolio. Bitcoin as well.
But as I said, boring is usually better.
You can also save in an All World and add the Nasdaq100, there are several options.
It is important to think about a strategy: when do I get out, when do I buy in, how long is my investment horizon, etc...
🟠 New Bitcoin savings plan up and running: Direct to cold wallet & 0% fees! Hi everyone,
Hi everyone,
A brief update on my crypto position, which I run separately from my ETFs under "HODL & vergessen": I have just set up a new automated purchase!
From now on, at least CHF 100 will flow into Bitcoin every month. Why exactly CHF 100? Quite simply: With Relai you enjoy up to CHF 100 per month 0% fees (excluding network fees).
🔒 The best thing about the setup: The direct transfer
A particularly cool solution: I don't use the detour via the app's own wallet, but have the BTC transferred after the auto-invest via the savings plan directly to my own cold wallet (hardware wallet) via a savings plan. No manual sending back and forth, maximum security from day one and real ownership according to the motto: Not your keys, not your coins.
For me, this is currently the most relaxed and cheapest way to continuously accumulate Satoshis in Switzerland via DCA (dollar-cost averaging) without worrying about price fluctuations.
How do you buy your BTC? Do you also use your cold wallet directly for savings plans or do you leave your holdings on an exchange?
Bitcoin UTXOs
The UTXO model, short for "Unspent Transaction Output", is the fundamental concept in the Bitcoin network. Unlike traditional banking systems where balances are managed through accounts, Bitcoin is based on a unique system that relies on individual unspent transaction outputs.
Operating principle of the UTXO model
In the UTXO model, the Bitcoin state does not consist of persistent account balances, but of a multitude of individual, available outputs. Each of these outputs describes a certain amount of Bitcoin that has not been spent - hence the term "unspent".
This system has some important features. Each UTXO represents a discrete unit. When a user receives Bitcoin, they receive UTXOs that can be spent later. In order to spend a UTXO, the owner must provide valid proof of unlocking. This is typically done by creating a digital signature that proves that the user is in possession of the corresponding private key. The transaction also contains a script that describes the conditions for issuing the UTXO.
What is a UTXO?
The Bitcoin network works differently to traditional bank accounts. While there you simply have an account balance that increases or decreases, Bitcoin works with something called "UTXO".
The abbreviation stands for Unspent Transaction Output.
Definition and basic principles
UTXO stands for "Unspent Transaction Output" and forms the central account system of Bitcoin. Instead of keeping balances in accounts, the Bitcoin state consists of a set of individual available outputs, with each UTXO representing a specific amount of Bitcoin that can be spent if the person controlling it provides valid proof of unlocking (e.g. signature or script). A UTXO is an atomic value (for example 0.025 BTC) with an associated ScriptPubKey that specifies the condition under which this value may be spent. Transactions consume one or more UTXOs as inputs and generate new UTXOs as outputs; the inputs used are then considered "spent" and are no longer available. UTXOs themselves are not changed, but replaced by new outputs. Each full node stores the current UTXO set or an efficient index format of it and validates transactions against this set, creating consensus on the available amount of spendable outputs.
Why do UTXOs exist?
Each Bitcoin transaction generates outputs that contain a certain amount.
These outputs can be thought of as digital "banknotes".
As long as they have not yet been used in a new transaction, they are considered UTXOs.
Example:
- You receive 0.3 BTC in a transaction → this is a UTXO
- You later receive 0.7 BTC in another transaction → a second UTXO
- So you have two UTXOs - not "1 BTC account balance".
How does a wallet use UTXOs?
When you send Bitcoin, your wallet automatically combines the required UTXOs.
How do you use UTXOs?
When you make a payment, your UTXOs are used as "inputs" in a new transaction. The following situations can arise:
Your UTXO is larger than the payment
Suppose you want to send 0.2 BTC, but only have a UTXO of 0.3 BTC.
Then the following happens:
- 0.2 BTC goes to the recipient
- The "remainder" (change) of 0.1 BTC comes back to you as a new UTXO
Bitcoin therefore works like cash
If you pay an invoice for €30 with a €50 bill, you get €20 back - in a new form.
You need several UTXOs
If you want to transfer 1 BTC but only have UTXOs of 0.3 BTC and 0.7 BTC, the wallet will automatically combine both to enable the payment.
Why are UTXOs important?
Security and traceability
Every UTXO can be clearly verified in the network.
This makes Bitcoin particularly transparent and forgery-proof.
Data protection
Even though Bitcoin is not completely anonymous, UTXOs ensure that there is no central account balance that can be clearly assigned to a person.
Efficiency in the network
Miners only ever process the UTXOs that are actually used, which keeps the structure of the system lean and efficient.
Flexibility for wallets
Wallets decide for themselves:
- which UTXOs are used,
- how payments are combined,
- and how much "change" is created.
A UTXO is an unspent "credit fragment" from a previous Bitcoin transaction. Bitcoin does not add up account balances, but uses these building blocks to enable payments. This model is a central building block for Bitcoin to function securely, decentrally and transparently.
Advantages of the UTXO model
The UTXO model has numerous advantages that make it an excellent choice for Bitcoin.
First of all, it provides decentralization. There are no centralized accounts, which reduces the risk of a central point of failure. Each user has complete control over their UTXOs. At the same time, the transparency of the system ensures that all transactions on the blockchain network are traceable, which strengthens trust between users.
The UTXO model is also particularly efficient. As each UTXO is independent, transactions can be verified quickly and easily, which supports the scalability of the system in times of high usage. In addition, the model allows users a high degree of flexibility. They can combine different UTXOs to make larger expenses or spend partial amounts, which is particularly beneficial when dealing with smaller amounts and transaction fees.
Structure of a UTXO
A UTXO essentially contains the value in Satoshis (1 BTC = 100,000,000 Satoshis), the ScriptPubKey (the locking condition, e.g. P2PKH, P2SH, P2WPKH) and a reference to the transactional origin (TXID and output index). This information allows nodes to check whether a UTXO exists and is valid and who is authorized to issue it.
UTXO model vs. account model
The UTXO model, as used by Bitcoin, has advantages over the account model.
Advantages and disadvantages: It allows for easy parallelizability and offers better privacy options by using many random outputs as well as deterministic validation since no global account balances need to be maintained. On the other hand, wallets have to manage UTXOs and perform change handling, which makes the wallet logic more complex.
Script types and their effect on UTXOs
Different script types influence the nature of UTXOs. P2PKH (Pay-to-PubKey-Hash) is the classic address where the output must be released by signature and public key; P2SH (Pay-to-Script-Hash) allows more complex conditions such as multisig without immediately disclosing these conditions; SegWit formats (P2WPKH, P2WSH) reduce block space requirements and resolve signature malleability issues, making transactions more efficient; Taproot/P2TR with Schnorr signatures and MAST-like structures increases privacy and flexibility for complex spending while keeping simple payments small.
UTXO management in wallets
Wallets manage UTXOs internally, record the origin, amount and script type and use coin selection algorithms to decide which UTXOs are used for a transaction. The goals of coin selection are to minimize fees, maintain privacy and handle change efficiently. Change outputs are common: when sending, the remainder that is not required is sent back to a change address of the sender. However, careless handling of change can jeopardize privacy because it exposes links between inputs and change. UTXO consolidation combines many small UTXOs into larger ones in order to reduce charges or clean up addresses, but can also compromise privacy because previously separate UTXOs are connected.
Fees, size and efficiency
Transaction fees depend primarily on the size of the transaction in virtual bytes (vbytes): More inputs lead to larger transactions and therefore higher fees. Many small UTXOs lead to "UTXO bloat" and increase the cost of subsequent issues. Good coin selection effectively reduces fees.
Data protection and anonymity
In terms of privacy and anonymity, inputs of a transaction pose a problem because all inputs are used together and thus provide a heuristic to connect UTXOs of the same wallet. Change detection is another heuristic that third parties use to identify change outputs. Measures such as CoinJoin, CoinSwap, use of new addresses and Taproot can reduce detectability. Researches and companies analyze UTXO set and flows to identify patterns, which is used for KYC/AML and forensic purposes.
Security aspects and attack vectors
Security aspects include double-spend risk, which is prevented by tracking spent outputs in the UTXO set, and previous transaction malleability issues, which have been largely resolved by SegWit. Attackers can use "dust attacks" where very small UTXOs are sent to many addresses to facilitate tracking or force users to pay high fees; wallets apply dust filtering or policies to counter this. With chain splits, replay attacks are possible if the same transaction is valid on both chains, which is why replay protection or address-based measures are relevant.
UTXO set
The growth of the UTXO set affects full nodes as it increases memory requirements. More efficient script types such as SegWit and Taproot reduce the space required per UTXO. Pruning nodes eliminate older block data and keep only necessary information, while research approaches such as UTXO commitments and stateless client concepts examine how nodes can verify without keeping the complete UTXO set local. Scalability is a trade-off: a large UTXO set increases resource requirements, but the model remains parallelizable and performant for validation.
Practical example
A simplified example illustrates the behavior
Alice has two UTXOs: 0.3 BTC (TXA:0) and 0.1 BTC (TXB:1).
Alice wants to send 0.25 BTC to Bob.
Alice creates a transaction with inputs TXA:0 (0.3 BTC). Outputs: 0.25 BTC to Bob, 0.0499 BTC Change to Alice, fee 0.0001 BTC.
After confirmation, TXA:0 is considered spent; the two new outputs are new UTXOs in the UTXO set. TXB:1 remains unchanged.
Economic and ecological aspects
Economically and ecologically, UTXO bloat and frequent small transactions lead to higher resource consumption and rising fees. Consolidation in times of low fees can reduce costs in the medium term, but affects privacy. Advances such as SegWit and Taproot reduce resource consumption per transaction and thus also the ecological impact per payment.
Tools and analysis of the UTXO set
Block explorers, full nodes (e.g. bitcoind), wallet libraries (Bitcoin Core RPC, libbitcoin, bitcoinjs-lib, rust-bitcoin) and specialized research tools that investigate clustering, chain forensics and anonymity metrics are used to analyze and manage the UTXO set.
Future developments
Future developments include improved coin selection algorithms that provide more privacy at lower fees, as well as research into stateless validation and UTXO commitments to allow nodes to verify without a complete local UTXO set. Taproot offers advanced obfuscation of complex outputs and improved privacy options, while layer 2 solutions such as the Lightning Network handle many microtransactions off-chain, reducing the on-chain UTXO load. Overall, the UTXO model is the backbone of Bitcoin: it determines how value is represented, transferred and validated, and is fundamental to wallet design, fee optimization, privacy and scalability considerations; ongoing improvements such as SegWit, Taproot and Layer 2 solutions increase efficiency and privacy, while research into UTXO management and stateless approaches aims to further reduce the burden on nodes.
UTXO format and serialization
UTXOs are serialized in transactions as outputs consisting of value (8 bytes, Satoshis) and the ScriptPubKey (length + bytes). The reference to an existing UTXO is made via the input of the new transaction, which contains the previous TXID (32 bytes, little-endian) and the output index (4 bytes). During validation, nodes check that the referenced output exists in the local UTXO set and has not yet been output.
Script execution and validation process
When outputting a UTXO, the input provides a ScriptSig or Witness (for SegWit) - usually signature and public key or the complete Redeem/Script for P2SH. Validators execute the locking (ScriptPubKey) and unlocking (ScriptSig/Witness) sequentially; the result must be true. SegWit separates witness data from the classic transaction structure, which reduces TXID malleability and places the signature data outside the classic TXID.
Coin selection strategies
Coin selection refers to the strategy used by a wallet to decide which UTXOs are used for a transaction. A simple, but not always optimal, method is the so-called greedy approach: this involves simply selecting inputs until the desired amount, including fees, is reached. This variant is quick and uncomplicated, but often leads to unnecessarily large change or an unfavorable arrangement of the UTXOs.
Methods such as Knapsack or Branch-and-Bound work much more efficiently. Here, the wallet attempts to find a combination of UTXOs that matches the desired amount as closely as possible. The closer this match is, the less change is generated - which saves fees in the long term and keeps the UTXO structure clean.
There are also strategies that prioritize the protection of privacy. With such "privacy-first" methods, UTXOs are deliberately selected in such a way that common analysis heuristics offer as few starting points as possible. For example, mixing different UTXO clusters with each other is avoided, as this could allow conclusions to be drawn about the identity or behavior of the user.
Finally, there are also consolidation-aware approaches. These use phases of low network fees to merge many small UTXOs into a larger one. This makes subsequent coin selection easier and cheaper. Modern wallets often carry out such consolidations automatically in the background without the user having to actively intervene.
Change handling
Best practice: always use new change addresses (HD wallets) to reduce linkability. With Taproot/SegWit, the smaller size of the signatures also reduces fees for change transactions.
Dust definition and policies
Dust is a very small output whose expenditure is economically pointless due to the required fees. Wallets and nodes have dust thresholds; outputs below this are often rejected or flagged as potentially harmful. Dust management includes filtering incoming Dust attacks and strategically ignoring very small UTXOs.
CoinJoin & coordinated privacy
CoinJoin combines inputs from multiple participants into a common transaction with multiple outputs of the same size, making allocation difficult. Wallets such as Wasabi or Samourai offer coordinated CoinJoin implementations; technically, clean CoinJoin implementations are designed to use equal output sizes, interlocking signature flows, and no off-chain reconciliation that could deanonymize.
UTXO statistics and metrics
Important metrics are number of UTXOs, average size per UTXO (bytes), UTXO age (time since creation), distributed UTXO size classes and concentration (e.g. proportion of UTXOs in a few addresses). These metrics help with network analysis, fee prediction and wallet optimization.
Interaction with Layer 2 (Lightning)
Lightning channels are opened on-chain by funding UTXOs. While channels are open, values change off-chain; only opening and closing transactions touch the UTXO set. Channel management and watchtowers are necessary to protect UTXOs in channels and to react to fraud attempts on-chain.
UTXO set pruning and pruned nodes
Node operators can run bitcoind with pruning, discarding older block data while retaining the UTXO set for validation. Pruned nodes reduce disk requirements but retain the ability to validate new blocks and verify transactions as long as the UTXO set is managed correctly.
Forensics and clustering
Chain analysis companies use heuristics (e.g. common-input-ownership) and graph-based methods to cluster UTXOs and trace flows. Countermeasures include CoinJoin, non-standard coin selection and Taproot, which make analysis more difficult but do not completely prevent it.
Wallet practices
- Use HD wallets with constantly changing change addresses.
- Consolidate UTXOs selectively at low fees and outside financially sensitive periods.
- Use privacy tools (CoinJoin, CoinSwap) if necessary.
- Pay attention to dust filtering and set sensible limits for automatic spending.
- Check address and script types (SegWit/Taproot) to optimize fees and efficiency.
Final remark
Understanding the UTXO mechanics is fundamental to mindful use of Bitcoin. Technology, wallet design, and spending behaviors directly affect cost, scalability, and privacy; recent improvements such as SegWit, Taproot, and Layer-2 reduce costs and increase opportunities, while research on coin selection and UTXO management continues to yield optimizations.
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Important note
The opinions and information provided by us do not constitute financial advice. They are for informational and educational purposes only and are not intended as a substitute for individual advice from qualified professionals.
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Especially in connection with Bitcoin? 🤔
Depot roast
I started investing slowly in 2021 and am now 33 years old. After initial mistakes that everyone probably makes, I'm now probably on the right track, which lets me sleep extremely relaxed. Savings rate 750 euros and if it fits there are still individual purchases. No hype stocks, just relaxed, steady wealth accumulation with additional dividends. This year it should be just under 2000 euros net and that's just the beginning. In addition to my ETFs and a few individual shares, I have $BTC (-1,71%) and $$DE000LS9U6W1 (+0,87%) which are also fed with individual purchases. Next year I'm planning to buy a car, so I have money in my call money account to buy the car without a loan. Life can be so simple. I wish all investors continued rising prices 🚀

