3Semana·

Once again 212

So 1.5 weeks have now passed. The first gimmicks are over and my Watchlist Pie has returned a total of 4.5% in one week. This has now been sold and I have built up a pie to save for the next 8-10 years. I'm starting with 50€ a week until I've completed the broker's test phase. After that I'll ramp it up to about 1k per month.

There are still a few stocks missing, but the big ones will be scaled down a bit. Among others $IREN (+5,78 %) ....

What do you think of the selection?

$NVDA (+0,44 %)
$GOOGL (+1,45 %)
$MSFT (+2,09 %)
$AVGO (+0,23 %)
$005930
$AMD (+0,21 %)
$TSLA (+2,25 %)
$IBM (+0,79 %)
$RKLB (+1,24 %)
$NU (+1,69 %)
$SMCI (+0,19 %)
$HIMS (+3,68 %)
$ENR (-0,11 %)
$HOOD (+2,9 %)
$PLTR (+3,52 %)
$CSCO (-0,43 %)
$MTX (-0,61 %)
$TTD (+1,1 %)
$QBTS (+12,99 %)
$9866 (+0,03 %)
$CRWV (+3,15 %)

And what of course should not be missing is $SIKA (-1,43 %) These are still weighted at 2% 😉 As a craftsman, I really enjoy using the products myself. The technological progress compared to other products such as StoCretec or others is already enormous, but it would go beyond the scope of this article.

37 Comentarios

Felix@Shareholder

2Semana

I definitely see IBM in a positive light! Most of the others too. As a student, I have a similar choice - but only €25 a week for now ^^
However, I see Tesla as doomed🙈🫡
Nevertheless, I wish everyone (who doesn't push Tesla as the most valuable company in the world) good luck :)

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Patrick Schäfer@Hotte1909

2Semana

@Shareholder Yes, I love Tesla. I'm not a Tesla hardliner, but the visions are good and in my opinion Tesla has the power and the money to pull it off.

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Felix@Shareholder

2Semana

Yes, Tesla has money. But at the moment, almost all of its profits come from the automotive sector. I don't think they'll catch up or regain market leadership. I think they've passed their peak and now things are going downhill. Other sectors are not yet making a profit.... but I'm also betting on VW - so I probably can't make a completely unbiased assessment🙈

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Patrick Schäfer@Hotte1909

2Semana

@Shareholder Let me guess, you work there? 😉 My mother's uncle was head of development in Mexico. When I see what he still gets from VW today. A company pension, a new car every 3 months that he can choose and he's 92 😀

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Felix@Shareholder

2Semana

No - I don't actually work there - it would have been nice😁
Did your mother's uncle get everything right gemacht🙇‍♂️
Just think Tesla is massively overvalued and VW massively undervalued. Will be the German car company that comes out on top in my opinion. But my father works at IBM in the A.I. division (which is why I have a positive view of IBM ;)) - It's incredibly exciting what he always says about what the company is doing and where it's going. I'm just waiting for a price spike below 200 again so that I can buy up :)

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Elka@Elka

1Semana

@Shareholder astera Labs

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Felix@Shareholder

1Semana

@Elka overvalued

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Smudo@Smudeo

3Semana

Craftsman? Thought you were a farmer once posted

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Patrick Schäfer@Hotte1909

3Semana

@Smudeo I was a part-time farmer, if you want to call it that. My grandparents had a farm, but my father had a driving school and didn't continue to run the farm, just as a sideline. At that time, however, he still had a few animals. In the meantime, the arable land has been leased to our relatives and we still farm the grassland and forest areas. However, the grassland is only used for hay production, which is then ideally sold from the field 😉 My main job is as a painter

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MarTheRadi@marda304

3Semana

@Smudeo Every farmer is also a craftsman

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Patrick Schäfer@Hotte1909

3Semana

@marda304 although Sika products are often used in agriculture, especially in the area of feeding tables etc.

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All-in-or-nothing@All-in-or-nothing

3Semana

Sold sounds like more information on the subject of tax treatment😏. If you like, please provide more information.

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Patrick Schäfer@Hotte1909

3Semana

@All-in-or-nothing yes, so logically it is seen as a single item for the pies. Tax is not paid. But you get a statement of account with guv offsetting. I have already forwarded this to my tax advisor and he said that would be enough for him

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Patrick Schäfer@Hotte1909

3Semana

@All-in-or-nothing although I actually think that's a good thing I pay input tax anyway and so I can at least continue to work with the money until the annual adjustment

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Kate🦋@Iwamoto

3Semana

What are the advantages or differences compared to simple savings plans with Neo Brokers?
Since many users already have difficulties with German neo-brokers (e.g. with customer support or securities account transfers), I wonder how you rate the reliability, trustworthiness and security of a broker from Bulgaria?

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Patrick Schäfer@Hotte1909

3Semana

@Iwamoto What does one have to do with the other? Incidentally, I have never had any problems with securities account transfers and I never actually need customer service. In the last 20 years I've had contact with customer service exactly twice. Once it was a mistake by the bank because of a dividend and once it was my own stupidity.
Yes, there is only deposit protection up to 20k. But I don't care because I don't plan to store large amounts of cash there anyway. So no problem. My shares are in the depositary, so if they go bust I still have access to my shares (logically only to the whole shares as half shares are not in the depositary. Incidentally, this is the case with every broker) ok, that's the risk I take.
I think they are trustworthy mam now has over 4.5 million customers (by comparison, scalable has around 1 million and around 10 million) and is one of the fastest growing fintechs. It should be clear that not everything always works 100% and that there are sometimes mistakes.
Now the advantages of a pie. I can automatically rebalance or the savings plans automatically adjust to my previously set target weighting. Then there is the fact that it is fortunately not yet tax simplified so that I can continue to work with the money for the time being. (I pay around 15-25k capital gains tax. If I let the money continue to run at 7%, that's about 1000€ more profit pa. I can divide my investments into pies which makes the whole thing much clearer.

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Filipe@fpena

2Semana

@Iwamoto T212 is in "Bulgaria" more for tax reasons. They are one of the most popular brokers in the UK, and from my experience, with a great customer service.
(My main broker is IBKR)

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Kate🦋@Iwamoto

2Semana

@fpena Freedom24 also stay in Cyprus for tax reason.

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Filipe@fpena

2Semana

@Iwamoto but Freedom24 has some background that I prefer to not "touch" it.

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Kate🦋@Iwamoto

2Semana

@fpena oh why they also have offices at the NASDAQ and quoted on the NYSE

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Filipe@fpena

2Semana

@Iwamoto and? What is the relation?
Do you use Freedom24?

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Kate🦋@Iwamoto

2Semana

@fpena no because the people here say that is Dangerous. So 212 is also very dangerous

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Patrick Schäfer@Hotte1909

2Semana

@Iwamoto you do realize that you are pretty much the only one who considers 212 to be dangerous?!

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Filipe@fpena

2Semana

@Iwamoto well, that your understanding. I didn't say that they are "dangerous". You can use whatever you want

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Kate🦋@Iwamoto

2Semana

@Hotte1909 This is not a personal attack. I understand that you may feel that way and will think about it.

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Ruben Schoff@Sand

3Semana

I think a lot of our future dividend machine Alphabet 😎

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Jari Stark@MainTyp

2Semana

Unfortunately, the search function is still in the planning stage. How could I find your pie?

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Patrick Schäfer@Hotte1909

2Semana

@MainTyp at 212? Haven't made it public yet

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Patrick Schäfer@Hotte1909

2Semana

@Hotte1909 https://www.trading212.com/pies/luKhQQhX5AcJTLh5mcfa4GfD71xe5

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Jari Stark@MainTyp

2Semana

Why, for example, did you decide to buy Microsoft shares on US stock exchanges and not in Germany?

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Patrick Schäfer@Hotte1909

2Semana

@MainTyp because the main trading volume is on the home exchange

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Patrick Schäfer@Hotte1909

2Semana

@MainTyp and of course because of the 24h tradability

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Jari Stark@MainTyp

2Semana

@Hotte1909 Of course the trading volumes are higher. My consideration is that since the fees are also higher, for small amounts (savings plan) I would buy in the appropriate currency without extra fees, I have not yet calculated it exactly. I am currently calculating this in my real test

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Cossi@Cossi

1Semana

What do you think of the Trade Desk? Should I use it or no longer have a moat due to Google?

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Patrick Schäfer@Hotte1909

1Semana

@Cossi difficult to say. I have Google and TTD in there 😉 They are currently struggling, but I'm hoping for a turnaround next year

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Cossi@Cossi

1Semana

Perhaps not wrong as a swing trade at this price

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