SPD wing calls for abolition of tax exemption for Bitcoin and real estate Tax increase also for shareholders

Techaktien · 2025-10-30T07:18:11.745410Z

Bitcoin: Instead of tax exemption on profits after a holding period of one year, 30% tax is to become due. Also applies to all cryptos. Real estate: Instead of tax exemption after 10 years, 30% tax should also be payable. Securities and interest: Increase in capital gains tax from 25% to 30% (plus solidarity surcharge). This strategy paper is called "Justice creates strength - guard rails for the financial policy of tomorrow". SPD = They are plundering Germany 🇩🇪📉. They are waging class warfare against the middle class. The tax and contribution vice-world champion strikes again to give away even more tax money to foreign countries, left-wing NGOs and those who refuse to work. This policy is destroying prosperity and promoting poverty in old age. #spd #steuer #steuern $BTC $ETH #bitcoin #krypto

Kulturgut@DerBro

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Luckily they will hopefully soon be in single figures in the polls.

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Sina@lawinvest

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@DerBro Unfortunately, they too often manage to dictate policy despite their miserable election results. Acting like a petulant child and getting what they want because they are always in government

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DocTrader@value_crafter_1628

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@DerBro Unfortunately, single-digit parties also set the tone here. Off to neo-socialism....

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Karl@Karl_

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But completely ignoring the fact that you already pay around 30% tax at company level, but the evil capitalists who only pay 25% + solidarity tax on their dividends, exactly my humor

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Aktien-Investor@Aktien-Investor

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Somehow all this climate madness and the many monetary gifts all over the world have to be financed... the welfare state is broke and the middle class, which is trying to build up its old-age provision intelligently on the capital market in order to maintain a reasonable standard of living in old age, has to pay again!

What else can you expect from such uneducated left-wing politicians... The SPD, once the party of the working and middle classes, has had it!

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SanSebastian@WarrenamBuffet

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I'll be glad when this party disappears into insignificance.

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Mr-Strategyless@Mr-Strategyless

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SPD = they are plundering Germany.

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Aktienfox@Aktienfox

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Unfortunately, they are always back in politics..., just as feared now the counter measure as the AFD 0% continues to demand...., hopefully soon in single digits...!

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Staatsmann@Staatsmann

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Simple voter capture on the left fringe, so that people on the "left" might migrate to the SPD again.
(Moreover, the above-mentioned demands come from a small fringe group).

In the end, nothing will happen anyway with a primarily conservative government.
Just think of the ridiculous increase in child benefit or the relief amounts for families, which will do anything but increase the birth rate.

Incidentally, there are also calls for the abolition of the solidarity surcharge and for cold progression to be adjusted so that the tax rises more slowly but is higher in the upper brackets (over 100k ZvE) in order to reduce the tax burden on lower incomes.
to relieve the burden on lower incomes is not mentioned.

This could generate additional revenue of 14 billion euros and provide considerable relief for small and medium incomes in particular. According to previous statistics, the increases would only be noticeable for the top 10% and all other incomes would be mathematically relieved. (Well, how much relief is felt is another matter).

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MoneyMaze@MoneyMaze

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@Staatsmann Are you trying to respond with logic to one of the usual populist and undifferentiated contributions from tech stocks? Wild

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Staatsmann@Staatsmann

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@MoneyMaze Yes, I still haven't given up hope that other people are fundamentally interested in facts and don't just think emotionally.

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r0bs1@r0bs1

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I find comments like yours incredibly important!

unfortunately, hardly anyone is interested in this, while only the headlines are read...

thank you

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Herbert Karl@Deph

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That's right, strong shoulders have to support the weak - that's how a community works and it has to be financed.

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Klein-Anleger1@Klein-Anleger1

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Yes, but you don't have to carry the whole world, do you? We send development aid to China so that they suffocate us! Thank you Germany!

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Hendrik@ChickenHenne

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@Klein-Anleger1 Whataboutism I hear you trapping.

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Klein-Anleger1@Klein-Anleger1

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@ChickenHenne write in German or English. I don't understand this language ✌️

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Staatsmann@Staatsmann

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@Klein-Anleger1 There has been no more development aid for China for over 10 years.
There are term loans with corresponding interest rates so that our German car manufacturers, among others, could build factories there.

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Klein-Anleger1@Klein-Anleger1

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@Staatsmann over 10 years? https://de.statista.com/infografik/25614/groesste-empfaenger-deutscher-entwicklungshilfe/

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Staatsmann@Staatsmann

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@Klein-Anleger1 In the form of KfW loans and not in the form of repayment-free subsidies, as is usually the case in development aid.

It is therefore not development aid in the sense of "a third world country needs help to establish itself".

https://www.abgeordnetenwatch.de/profile/svenja-schulze/fragen-antworten/wieviel-entwicklungshilfe-zahlt-deutschland-an-china

https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/deutschland/politik/deutsche-entwicklungshilfe-china-100.html

https://correctiv.org/faktencheck/2025/04/23/hunderte-kohlekraftwerke-und-millionen-aus-deutschland-was-an-diesen-zahlen-ueber-china-dran-ist/

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aminemeskni@Aminmeskini

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@Deph You act as if we pay nothing!!! I pay 40% of my salary in social security contributions and taxes my friend. You can voluntarily support the weak, we don't need a tax increase for that!!!

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Herbert Karl@Deph

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@Aminmeskini hey thanks for your comment. No, you're wrong, I know that we all pay something and yes, I'm happy to do that so that this country can invest in education, hospitals and affordable housing. If I now invest in Bicoin or other cryptocurrencies and then make a profit through my extensive research, knowledge or just luck, then I can also give something back to society. Because not everyone has the talents, intelligence, knowledge or just plain luck that you might have.

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JH@DiosmioSanto

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@Deph Perhaps this juggernaut of a state should start by saving money. The administration is inefficient. "Social spending" is an invitation to fraud. You can't eat as much as you want to vomit when you look at all the incompetent political actors.

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Mathis_2610@Mathis_2610

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@Aminmeskini It's obvious that you have no plan. He gives you sensible arguments... You come back with "But we're paying what?!?!"
You lost buddy

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Klein-Anleger1@Klein-Anleger1

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Schmuuuuutz, let's be honest, what's the point? More and more people are emigrating and now taxes are being raised for the people who still have money 😑

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luki666@lukilouie

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@Klein-Anleger1 If you're around here, you know your way around charts. Or do you? Where do you see a trend? Are we at an ATH?
https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Gesellschaft-Umwelt/Bevoelkerung/Wanderungen/_inhalt.html

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Klein-Anleger1@Klein-Anleger1

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@lukilouie If you know anything about politics, you would know that the majority of people moving in are not people who work ✌️ The majority of people moving out are wealthy and working 😐

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LarryLindt@LarryLindt

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@Klein-Anleger1 Do you have any proof of this or is it "Trust me Bro"?

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aminemeskni@Aminmeskini

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This is really sad! This is simply an attack on all small investors!!! Attack on the working population, on hardworking people!!! Too bad 😔

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LarryLindt@LarryLindt

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@Aminmeskini Attacking the top few percent. Or how often do you buy and sell apartments?

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aminemeskni@Aminmeskini

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@LarryLindt But I am a small investor and will pay 30 percent instead of 26

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LarryLindt@LarryLindt

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@Aminmeskini 🤷🏻‍♂️ exactly. So there will be more people who finance their lives through wealth instead of working...

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Clown I.@alex1973

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The SPD is the last straw. First they plunder the pension funds and tell people to make their own provisions. Then people make their own provisions, and now they want to take away their own provisions. Of course, the SPD is not solely responsible for the situation, but it is unteachable and used to be the workers' party.

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Robert@Baraccus

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With Antifa Lars at the helm, everything has been said about this party. 🥱

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LarryLindt@LarryLindt

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@Baraccus What is wrong with an anti-fascist attitude?
Anyone who is not Antifa is by implication a fascist

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Stephan K.@StrahlemannLP

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Experience shows that what the SPD demands and what ultimately gets through are always two different things. You have to keep the (sometimes unfortunately very stupid) base happy and the old enemy image of the cognac-drinking, cigar-puffing shareholder fits the cliché perfectly.

Don't get so infected and think about a plan B.

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DividendenRambo@DividendenRambo

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I acknowledge this demand at the ballot box. These freaks should be punished.

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sergej@arndberg

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@DividendenRambo You've probably never voted for a left-wing party, so nothing will change

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Thom@Depot_7777

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I also hope that the SPD will soon disappear into insignificance with this envious mentality

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ZeissJessy@ZeissJessy

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Taxes are modern robbery

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DocTrader@value_crafter_1628

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@ZeissJessy I would even be happy to pay taxes if it meant doing something for the citizens here in this country....

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Nom@user28461

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SPD needs money. I thought they needed votes.

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Flex K.@Flexiflex

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Hello AfD

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Simon_n@Simon_n

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And that's why voters then turn to the fools from the AfD, who are just as interested in catching voters, only on the other side. It's a sad system

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Hanni@horseback

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@Simon_n At the top of the AfD there are only well-educated people who have a connection to what is happening in the population! They should deal with this directly and not listen to the garbage that is said on the left-wing ÖRR, which we are forced to finance!

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Jupp D.@JuppDupp

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@Simon_n Exactly! We should leave the management of the country's problems to the professionals, without whom we wouldn't have the problems in the first place. A win-win situation. You can happily pay even more taxes for that

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Simon_n@Simon_n

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@horseback That's exactly what they want you to believe. It's pure voter capture, do you really think that all our problems will go away when another, right-wing party is in charge? The AfD sits comfortably in the opposition and can talk big, but when it's their turn they'll be just as bad as the idiots we have right now. Just like Trump: he talked a lot about wanting to bring back freedom of speech, etc., and now that it's his turn: he's doing exactly the same and taking it up a notch.
Don't get me wrong, I'm absolutely no fan of the government of the last few decades, but the AfD is unlikely to do any better when it really comes down to it.

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Simon_n@Simon_n

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@JuppDupp I don't quite understand what you're getting at. I have never supported the current government, nor any tax increases. If it were up to me, 99% of what the state does right now would be left to the market. Maybe even 100%

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Jupp D.@JuppDupp

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@Simon_n I'm with you on that, but if you haven't noticed, there are only two sides left. And one side has already proven for years that it can't do it.

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Simon_n@Simon_n

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@JuppDupp Just because there are only two sides doesn't mean that the other is necessarily better. I am in favor of simply looking at things objectively and holistically and seeing that the state makes pretty much everything it touches worse. Relatively independent of which party is currently in control.

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Jupp D.@JuppDupp

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@Simon_n That's a nice theory, but it's just that. Plague or cholera, that's the choice.

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Simon_n@Simon_n

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@JuppDupp And it has to stay that way? If we carry on like this, nothing will ever get better.
With this mindset, we would still be ruled by kings and give them all our possessions.
But I have to admit that I don't quite know how to get out of this dilemma either.

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LarryLindt@LarryLindt

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@horseback the specialists who don't answer a single question correctly?
Who, according to the calculation, mainly save the top 10% money and make it even more expensive for the lower earners?

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Simon_n@Simon_n

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@LarryLindt Well, such calculations about who saves whom money are always a bit opaque. No party is likely to get a good result. But I agree with you, the AfD members can't answer questions properly in interviews when it really matters.

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DocTrader@value_crafter_1628

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Hehe🖐️aufpassen, not that our GQ community still has to be monitored by the Office for the Protection of the Constitution as a capitalist-right-wing extremist platform....(Attention: irony)😕

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sergej@arndberg

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@value_crafter_1628 It feels like 50% AFD voters are here so maybe that's what's happening😂

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LarryLindt@LarryLindt

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@arndberg the dear fascists are always and everywhere loud. But we are more !!! 161

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Global I.@gloinvest

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For some time now, it has not been about climate change, defense or education policy. I am convinced that the transformation of our social and economic system into a planned economy and socialism is being driven by large sections of the left-wing parties, even parts of the CDU parliamentary party. This stems largely from ignorance of the economic context, but also partly from conviction.

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Manuel K.@Paschulke82

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A good, fair decision, even if it affects me. Where money is made, the common good must also be considered.

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Donnie@DonnieBurger

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Vote for the right party, kids!

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Leo@DasistderWeg

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I'm fine with that if the tax-free amount is raised to 10,000

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Echsenkönig A.@Bezehgombjuderstimme

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Germany is just so lost and at the end. When I retire, I'll move away to another country...

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market_miura@market_miura

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The SPD in the coming years... 📉

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𝒻𝓇𝓊𝑔𝒶𝓁 𝒻𝓇𝑒𝒾 𝓈𝑒𝒾𝓃 🗽@frugalfreisein

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The SPD is fighting the middle class and selling it as "social justice". They don't understand that the tax exemptions and allowances are there to incentivize wealth accumulation and long-term holding. If this party continues like this, it will disappear into insignificance.

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Nom@user28461

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You want to build up your own pension? Then you probably didn't count on the SPD 😆

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weite W.@capitalist_5

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You get to the heart of the matter! It just pisses you off!

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income_engineer_2878@income_engineer_2878

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Socialists and other people's money, endless story.

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Julian@MoneyISnotREAL

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I have absolutely no problem with paying taxes. Taxes are important and necessary to maintain and build a functioning state. Infrastructure, education, funding, civil protection, medical care.

Unfortunately, this has not been the case for the last few decades, because more and more money is being saved there - it is being allowed to decay and the money is being squandered in all other corners of the world.
For example, instead of buying products from other nations specifically to support their economies, we throw money at them and expect them to build themselves up. But there is no incentive to do so.

It's the same with migration. There is no incentive at all to go to work, because as soon as you earn something and contribute, your welfare is cut so much that you end up with less.
The proportionality is completely out of kilter.

We can raise taxes today and the state will once again have record revenues. But it won't be enough tomorrow because it still wants more and is squandering it (senselessly). At some point, we will push this even further and higher until no one will pay any more taxes. The parties (and especially the SPD/Left) have not understood that this cannot go on. Our economy is dying at record speed - we have a crisis. Instead of taking countermeasures, we are continuing to add fuel to the fire (tax increases, rising social security contributions, co-payments in the healthcare system, poorer accessibility & provision of medical care, educational institutions are rotting away, teacher shortages, infrastructure is falling apart, ...).
How is economic growth supposed to work again if the rail or road to the factory is no longer usable? Every company will look for another place in the world where this is possible.

This (tax increase) may be the plaster over the wound today, but the wound continues to fester. I can stick a new plaster over it every day until at some point the wound becomes infected and the body has to fight sepsis. Then no (cheap), uncomplicated remedies help me any more, but the problem has become so big that it requires even more effort, costs and resources to save the body.
Today it might be 50% tax, tomorrow 55%, the day after tomorrow 60%. But that does not solve the causes and the mismanagement. Today, the state has record tax revenues and is still not managing to carry out its core tasks for its own people. Instead, everything is done to secure its own power...

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SPD wing calls for abolition of tax exemption for Bitcoin and real estate Tax increase also for shareholders ⚠️💶📉