Trading - more than hectic trades and coffee consumption ☕☕☕☕

@Epi I think it's great that you are also taking part in an exchange on a topic that is rather contrary to your very analytical, scientific approach. You can certainly learn something from each other that way.

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Epi@Epi

@Multibagger A systematic trading approach is actually not that far removed from my strategies, the only difference being that I trade at longer intervals.
I would also like to optimize my intraday timing when implementing signals.
So there is still a lot for me to learn here!

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38Min

@Epi I almost overlooked the comment from @Multibagger 😬
Scientifically ok 👍 but to take the "analytical" out of chart analysis, that hits me as an "analytically" inclined guy 🥲

Joking aside - @Epi have you ever considered using the VWAP instead of the SMA? SMAs at different time levels are only interesting for me to see the trend, but not at all to determine entry points.
It would be interesting to do a backtest, overlay a VWAP or anchored VWAP over your history and see how far away the trigger points for entries and exits are from your historical SMA entries/exits, and which was more advantageous for your strategy🤓

What I asked myself during the volatile weeks was whether a 2-week rhythm would be advantageous or disadvantageous instead of a monthly change?

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GeldGenie@GeldGenie

Love the post and like to follow.

Not a fan of tagging the non-affected stocks (Even though I can understand extending the reach).

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@GeldGenie I understand, but without shares the post usually goes completely under or doesn't appear to many. But in my defense😉, these are also stocks that I like to trade and where I've been posting from time to time recently.

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GeldGenie@GeldGenie

@TomTurboInvest

Welcome to my world when I post about budget, CHF or macroeconomics 😂

Make links to old posts (possibly good anyway if someone doesn't know you yet) and then mention the stock. I can let that slide. 😜

Like your posts. Great work 😊👍 Thanks!

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𝒻𝓇𝓊𝑔𝒶𝓁 𝒻𝓇𝑒𝒾 𝓈𝑒𝒾𝓃 🗽@frugalfreisein

@GeldGenie have added a few links from the posts of the recent past 😅
I hope this works for you 🫣😂
Greetings to Switzerland - PS: I am often in the vicinity of Zurich

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GeldGenie@GeldGenie

@TomTurboInvest
Helps too, I think 👍 Expect a 25% share of your followers' success # 😜

Greetings back to the neighbor. 😉 Live/work in Zug since last year. ZH wouldn't be far away 👍

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Benny K.@BenKar91

Just had a look at some of your posts and your profile. You definitely have added value and it's because of people like you that I use this platform. I'd love to see more, I'm looking forward to your future posts.

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Yes, I would be particularly interested to know which indicators you use and which stocks you trade. I've tried my hand at certificates so far, some of them went really well and one went bloody wrong.

I also want to turn trading into a source of income to top up the dividends and put some of the profits back into the portfolios. However, I need a way to do it with little time commitment, as my job and other things keep me very busy.

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𝒻𝓇𝓊𝑔𝒶𝓁 𝒻𝓇𝑒𝒾 𝓈𝑒𝒾𝓃 🗽@frugalfreisein

@frugalfreisein Spoiler: the time commitment will surprise most people

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@TomTurboInvest I think you work with SMA or MACD and only when something overlaps do you place a trade, the whole thing hedged with S/L. In any case, I'll be surprised. :)

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@TomTurboInvest Yes, maybe in the end, but it takes a while to get there.

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@TradingMelone assuming, of course, that you are familiar with chart analysis. If this is new to you, it takes an investment to learn it, as with everything...

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@TomTurboInvest do you have Discord ?

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@TradingMelone no - apart from GQ, I am a "cybermof" and only consume information passively, e.g. via Insta

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@TomTurboInvest mhh that's a pity, I would have liked to invite you to a group.

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Pat@paradoxx

Get something out. Still have a bunch of coins to distribute 😉

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@paradoxx ah, you were the winner of my 21,000 coins 👍

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Max@MaxScheu

Very interesting what you write there. 😊 I have to follow you right away.

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Golden Boy@randomdude

I would be particularly interested to know what return p.a. on the overall trading portfolio can be achieved depending on the time invested in your experience. Is it possible to beat the MSCI World?
I always read here about successful (or sometimes failed) trades, usually with a few 100 euros invested. But is it also possible to manage a portfolio in the mid six-figure range?

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@randomdude The return naturally depends on your risk appetite. My goal is always at least 45% per year. To achieve this, I use around 50% of my portfolio for trading. The stake doesn't matter, in percentage terms it's the same whether you do it with 10,000, 100,000 or 1 million. If I buy 1000 shares, you just buy 10,000. You have to separate yourself from the absolute figures, otherwise you will be ruined if a trade goes wrong. I always calculate in % and set myself percentage profit targets for each trade. When these are reached, I consistently move the SL mark to that point. The same applies to losses. I set myself a maximum loss target that I am prepared to bear. I also only ever put a maximum of 3-5% of the total portfolio value into a security. At the moment I am almost fully invested and my 50% trading volume is spread over 17 positions.

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Golden Boy@randomdude

@Multibagger Interesting, thanks for the insight. Does the 45% return apply to the entire portfolio or to the 50%?
And how much time do you invest?

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@randomdude on the total portfolio. The actual trading effort is relatively low. But I read a lot, as I tend to trade based on fundamental data rather than technical indicators.

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@randomdude I don't want to spoil too much, as @Multibagger has already written, it always depends on the stake or position size.
If I couldn't beat a world ETF or a good dividend portfolio, then I wouldn't trade. The proportion I trade with is always in the range of 10-15% of the total portfolio, but this proportion is in the 6-digit range and the position sizes are accordingly in the mid 4-digit to 5-digit range.

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Marty@MiamiMarty

I'm very interested, as I'm currently doing a lot of trading and would like to try my hand at it.

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Jurboss@Jurboss

I would also like to know more about this. I am currently following a buy & hold strategy, but had a demo account for CFD trading a few years ago.

Here's what I find particularly interesting at the moment.

- Can you get so far into the red in trading that you are liable to make additional contributions?

- What about taxes on trades? Are there automatic tax deductions and loss offsets?

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@Jurboss B&H does not exclude trading, my core is also B&H. More details will follow in the articles 😊

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@Jurboss I don't think @TomTurboInvest does CFD trading. You can't really do that as a hobby either. Of course I know professionals who only do it from 15-18:00, but that's the exception. I don't do CFD trading either, because the risk of loss is too great for me, because you can lose more than your stake. In contrast to @TomTurboInvest, I trade more with derivatives and he trades more with shares. But both are possible, depending on risk tolerance, capital to be invested, etc.

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Jurboss@Jurboss

@Multibagger Okay, thanks for the clarification. CFD trading is also too risky for me personally. I also have derivatives from time to time when there are major losses and extreme rises in quality stocks. But so far I've only had one major success.

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Chiefwiggum@Hidalidsch

I'm definitely interested and would be very happy if you could tell us more about it🤩

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But it's all down to Trump anyway...

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@TradingMelone I was already trading before Trump 🤣
Joking aside, a trader doesn't care what the reason for the vola is, right? You are one too 👆

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“Klaatu_Barada_Nikto!“@Ash

@TomTurboInvest Sure, I'm just kidding.

I like to call myself a trader yes. Others probably call us long-term gambling addicts🥴😂

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Iza B.@Iza0475

Very interesting! love to read and learn about it!😁

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I'm looking forward to it 👍🏼

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__Chrstph__@__Chrstph__

I would be very interested 🤓

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AnyoneForTennis@AnyoneForTennis

I'm very excited!

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Lukas@mastermindLukas

We've been waiting for this and it's finally here! 😍

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Andreas@Harley63

I'm in ;)

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Stephan K.@StrahlemannLP

Sure, it's always good to learn something new. I'd be there!

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Mäx@M_P_V

nice idea, thanks, I'm interested.

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F@Cai-pirinha

I would find it very interesting if you had the time and inclination to shed some light on it from time to time! 👍

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Mätzy@Maepsylon

I personally find that very exciting! 👍

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I'm already a follower anyway and am happy about every exchange with members of the community here who, like me, belong to the minority of traders here.😉😂 I would also find it interesting to share trades and exchange ideas about them when you enter them. Then everyone can decide whether to follow it or not.

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@Multibagger with Novo, Shopapotheke and Adyen among others, we seem to have a similar focus anyway 😅
Btw - with the Adyen entry from last week I just made a 4-digit book profit today, still hoping for a short/medium term 1.800€+ as TP price

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BockaufDividenden@BockaufDividenden

@TomTurboInvest Congratulations! I started a long trade on $MELI the day before yesterday to compensate, which didn't perform too badly after yesterday evening. Unfortunately a normal OS and no KO for once. Therefore only 30% up today

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John@Doe

Such contributions are a real added value for qetquin and the community. So more of them are welcome 🙏🏼

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I would love to get to grips with it, but you read and see so much on the internet that you can't see the wood for the trees.

I've also been able to sell a few positions with leverage here and there with a good profit, but I've also fallen flat on my face with a total loss (but have long since made up for it)

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JanoschYa@JanoschYa

A great idea. I really wanted to start or recharge my knowledge during the summer vacation. In this respect, it would fit very well and I would be delighted if you could (continue to) impart knowledge to us.

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Malyateny@Malyateny

23H

Great interest!

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Testo-Investor@Testo-Investor

10H

Little time spent ? Have I missed something? But you're not talking about day trading, are you? but rather long swings, right?

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