3Semana·

What's next....?

Good morning,

I am quite new to the subject of investing etc. My knowledge ? I'm sure 99% of you have more.

And that's where I really need help. I am 39 and would like to build up a cash flow with dividends. Yes, I know that investing would be better in the long term. But I realized first hand how a little cold can lead you to the intensive care unit with 9 months of sick leave (including rehab etc).

That's when I realized that you also live in the here and now. Of course I also want to think about tomorrow, but I want to be able to do both. I would like to start with 250€ /month. I have in mind etf like $HMWO (+0,02 %) , $VHYL (-0,07 %) , $ISPA (-0,37 %) ,$TDIV (-0,02 %)
$ZPRG (+0,16 %) , $EUHD (-0,07 %)
$VWRL (+0,04 %) in mind.

And yet I am unsure . How much in whom, which one do I take ? should I possibly consider others ? Does the selection make sense at all? Do I want a distribution every month (would be great)?

At the moment I don't need the distribution and would reinvest it.

So many question marks buzzing around in my head .... Do you have any advice?

Thank you very much

16 Comentarios

TaubeSmash@TaubeSmash

3Semana

For the savings rate, take 1 broad ETF like the $VWRL and from a certain size (mid five-digit range) you can add 1 dividend ETF ($TDIV)

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tommycash@tommycash

3Semana

@TaubeSmash You can still go sailing ⛵️

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TaubeSmash@TaubeSmash

3Semana

@tommycash VWRL builds the ship - TDIV sets the sails

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tommycash@tommycash

3Semana

@TaubeSmash What is your target composition?

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TaubeSmash@TaubeSmash

3Semana

@tommycash 80% $VWRL, 10% $TDIV, 10% $EWG2, whereby I am still looking to get started with gold and finally want to set up a savings plan. Are you sticking with forever 100% $VWRL?

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tommycash@tommycash

3Semana

@TaubeSmash still have rental income, so I'm quite happy with my one ETF solution and don't necessarily need more cash flow - but never say never 😁

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TaubeSmash@TaubeSmash

3Semana

@tommycash I understand! Do you have the properties near you or further away? I've had a few viewings in the Lake Constance area, as Zurich is impossible.

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tommycash@tommycash

3Semana

@TaubeSmash is all in the north of Munich in an urban area with good connections to the airport and the city of Munich. However, we inherited the property with the 3 units, only built on it ourselves and have been renting it out since 2022 👍🏻

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TaubeSmash@TaubeSmash

3Semana

@tommycash sounds pretty ideal with the location! I'll be heading towards Konstanz in the near future 🤞

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tommycash@tommycash

3Semana

@TaubeSmash yes, we were also able to sell half of the plot for around 2k/sqm - so we built completely with equity - not ideal from an investment point of view, but it was ideal for the head 🙌 keep your fingers crossed, happy to update then!

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Max@Divident_e

3Semana

Accumulating is not necessarily better. Dividends have their justification. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise

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Dividendenopi👴@Dividendenopi

3Semana

As @TaubeSmash already said, concentrate on an ETF with your savings rate for 1 or 2 years to start with. And if regular dividends are good for your soul, then turn that around and start with e.g. the $TDIV and reinvest the dividends in an all world as a first extension. Do this consistently, no matter what the markets do, and get a feel for how setbacks, price rises and the first dividends affect your state of mind 😇😉

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𝒻𝓇𝓊𝑔𝒶𝓁 𝒻𝓇𝑒𝒾 𝓈𝑒𝒾𝓃 🗽@frugalfreisein

2Semana

Accumulation can certainly be better if your custody account volume is important to you as a figure. But it won't do you any good. When you sell, you always get less back because of order fees and taxes.
There is also the issue of tax on the advance lump sum. Yes, this can also apply to distributors if they are low, but not that significantly. You won't notice it at first because the tax-free amount might absorb it. But at some point it just gets on your nerves and you always have to keep extra liquidity for it. That's just rubbish.

For me, the distributions are the measure of all things. Of course I also pay taxes, but they are still more advantageous for me. And in addition to the general lessons such as "you decide for yourself how you reinvest (or not)" and "it helps you psychologically to have distributions when the market crashes", your 9-month sick leave is exactly the kind of example I've always been looking for to support my argument. You're just happy if you can top up your sick pay with dividends. In a situation like that, selling hurts even more. That's why I advise everyone to focus exclusively on distributors, at least when it comes to ETFs. Even if they are only moderate distributors. 2% to max. 4 or 5% is the way to go (for me).

I have several ETFs in several portfolios. The portfolios have different strategies. And without saying which ones I have in detail and how heavily weighted they are, I'll just list the babies that pop into my head 🥰: $VWRL $VHYL $VUSA $TDIV $FGEQ $GGRP $JEPQ $ZPRG $SPYD $SPYW $IWDP $ISPA $IMEU. They're not all of them yet, but these are the ones that come to mind. The order does not allow any conclusions to be drawn about the position size. They are all built into the portfolios so that there are distributions every month. 🤑

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Joshi@Joshi15

2Semana

@frugalfreisein Good morning to you ,

Yes , life shapes and is not infinite . Just as growth is not infinite for me .

I'm completely with you on that. Anyone who has income and money should also pay taxes....your babies, I also have some of them on my screen...but I'm just not sure about some of them either. I wish I could just write to someone here privately 😅 And regarding size order, I don't think a 1 to 1 copy would suit me ... one way yes, but somehow I also want to bring my idea to the table a bit

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Bene@bene87

3Semana

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Rene@Rene22

3Semana

I wouldn't invest in too many at the beginning either. 2 ETFs are enough to start with.

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