4Yr·

War and madness - thoughts

There is a madman playing with the life of half the planet and "you" are upset about it, because "you" want to study your finances in peace?

Sorry... but the madman from the Kremlin has shown the whole world not quite an hour ago that he will press the "red button" to nuclear war willingly... what's wrong with "you"?

Political actions since today are no longer provided with "short legs", but have a "long, dangerous finger on the infamous button" which prepares the gate to hell and the end of all our human achievements and civilization.

And no, this does not belong separately on other platforms. This is the reality.

I just called or wrote to my parents and friends... I thanked them for their existence. Wished them to live in a peaceful world.

I have hugged my son and my wife.

They are legitimate concerns, whether I am German, Russian, Ukrainian, Inuit or Persian... I am a human being.

We are human beings.

We have only this one planet.

I don't care if this is a financial platform and "you" don't care about the war.

Whoever believes that the world will still be a normal world tomorrow is mistaken.

Those let themselves be blinded.

We stand before a new era. An era which "allows" dictators and despots to threaten with "total annihilation" and thus to get away "unpunished".

The country, Ukraine, seems to sacrifice itself now more for the whole mankind. They allow themselves to "peace negotiations" Unconditionally.

They do not give up because they have no chance.

No, they negotiate because they alone have the foresight that this war with such a threat as Putin already expressed on Thursday and the activation of the "deterrent forces" followed, only the "giving up of own positions" for the sake of the survival of the Ukrainian population, the European friends, the continent, the entire world and thus all people a chance.

The country of Ukraine, so much is clear, has already taken a step that deserves the memory of Ukrainian history, its language and ideals and its people a place in the collective memory of mankind.

This war will know NO WINNER in the end. Neither Russia, nor any other supposedly free country can claim victory.

The only and true winners in the hearts of all of us, are the brave, sincere, selfless people of Ukraine.

Today we are all Ukrainians.

Let us hope that we can live tomorrow and the future.

Let's not let the hatred and selfishness (including financial) prevail.

Let us not forget the sacrifice of people in all dictatorships, political unjust states, inhuman systems.

We owe it to the Ukrainian people.

We owe it to our own children and their children's children!

And certainly not to Wall Street, the London package, the Frankfurt or Moscow stock exchanges.

WITHOUT PEACE WE ARE NOTHING.

(Written entirely without excitement with a view to the markets, but full of concern with a view to one's own child, family and friends).

39 Comments

Kris@Mit44inRente

4Yr

A CHILD DIES OF HUNGER EVERY 10 SECONDS. And now??

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Stefan@InvestmentPapa

4Yr

@Knopf Your comment is disgusting and contemptuous. I will not have any further conversation with you. It offers no added value.

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Schweizer_Investor@Alumdria

4Yr

@Knopf I think you have not understood yet. We (NATO) may be facing a nuclear war with Russia.

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KK86@KK86Aktien

4Yr

@Alumdria I think the statement is more about hypocrisy and double standards. That's how I interpret it.

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Stefan@InvestmentPapa

4Yr

@Lena12 I ask myself all the time: With what right in this world do people dare to accuse others of double standards on such topics? The colleague above has no idea how my attitude to this topic is. Me or others under such topics these slogans around the ears to hit shows neither decency nor morality and respect for the lives of other people, if constantly in the most disgusting way the lives of other people are compared and equalized so. I challenge such trolls to present their donation receipt here. Before someone haut me such sayings to the head, he has to throw the first stone!

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KK86@KK86Aktien

4Yr

@InvestmentPapa I have been observing this rampant hyper morality for a few years now. Being on the right side, on the good side. By drawing attention to the fact that you are the "good" one at every pushed media event. Hashtag Soli, hashtag Pray, profile pictures in national colors etc etc. Pushy and always morally superior. Other opinions are garbage, or in your words "no added value" . And while you feel good because you have shown again that you are the "good", they have ZERO interest in the real problems such as that every 10 seconds a child dies of hunger. No profile pictures, no hashtags, no posts, etc.. Are also no pushed media topics. Itches no one. But the evil Russian yes there you have to show flag. but No Front, only my impression for years, nothing more. And your post haut full in this notch.

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Stefan@InvestmentPapa

4Yr

@Lena12 I ask for the publication of your PERSONAL efforts to alleviate suffering. Have I ever seen you in a soup kitchen? Have I ever seen you in a clothing store? Have I ever seen you on a cold weather bus? Have I ever seen you donate outside of the Christmas season? NO? Then you and your kindred spirit have not the slightest claim to your pretended concerns. For me you are then (ATTENTION FREEDOM OF OPINION) a further troll, which only labbert labbert labbert... make your social commitment publicly before you deny yourself ereiferst other humans the will for a better world. You are not better, as the argumentations which you effort on other people. You alone can be accused of double standards. And that is not worthy of any discussion.

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4Yr

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Lucrash@KapriolenCapital

4Yr

The Ukrainians are doing well, despite the fact that there was little timely support from the outside. I'm honest, I don't know if I would do the same for Germany. It shows that one has been in a false sense of security and as you also describe it, in negotiations with dictators everything is at stake. And for what? Narcissistic goals that are sold as national interests, while they sell only peace and the fate of their people. It's just the time for humility, because nothing can be taken for granted. Thanks for the contribution in such turbulent times ❤️

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Enrique@Dividenden_Monteur

4Yr

@KapriolenSonne I think in this situation you are not fighting for Germany, but to protect your family/friends, but I hope we never have to find out!

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SharkAce@SharkAce

4Yr

I'm for the only war in video games. reality says so... no 😵‍💫

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Gaylord@Gaylord

4Yr

@ccf

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AI sagt@GoDividend

4Yr

@Gaylord but so what from the top with the post..❤️🕊️

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Thomas M.@DiviHai

4Yr

✌️☮️

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MatsoTake@Embres

4Yr

👍❤️

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Dirk Kaiser@Wuhaha

4Yr

👍👍👍

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Michael@MFMIrrgang

4Yr

True words, thank you ❤️

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InvestmentFeldwebel@InvestmentFeldwebel

4Yr

Follow the money, then you know who wins and one must say the USA does not stand there as a loser. But yes war always hits innocent ...

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Stefan@InvestmentPapa

4Yr

@InvestmentFeldwebel Could you be more precise? I read now already repeated times from you such theses. What does it mean? That Putin is a puppet of the states and actually had no other choice? That the USA act consciously, that Mr. Putin has reason to start a possible conflagration? Sorry Mr. Sergeant, but your theses are really weak and annoy me quite, because I suspect where their thesis aims. It is not Europe, not the USA that started the active and hot war, no - an old, conceited, offended, probably sick and ignorant misanthrope is playing his power games on the back of all of us.
Yes, NATO and co. have to carry their bag just as much, but here neither NATO actively attacked, nor someone threatened Mr. Putin personally with death BEFORE. THAT is the truth and not some obscure theories of any traces of money. Look into your depot... then you will see "your" traces.

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InvestmentFeldwebel@InvestmentFeldwebel

4Yr

@InvestmentPapa I would like to say rationally and factually that there are winners here as in every crisis. Most people nowadays know the last 48 hours of Instagram by heart but don't look back at what happened in the last 100 years. Of course, this is no guarantee for a positive solution but the chance is very high before someone presses the red button. The US still accepts fossil raw materials from Russia and we as Europe also.
Yesterday in the Bundestag it was even decided that the defense budget will be massively increased. Everyone should know which lobby is now on it and benefits greatly. Furthermore, it is also unacceptable what Putin is doing there and you should not be naive and think he leaves it at that. It should be aware of everyone to increase the external borders so that the Lord knows where the end is. To the U.S. times the often use a positive purpose for a war, many countries did not want to be bombed by them and there was but not really reported as now..examples I spare now times. I would like to say that you should look at such things impartially and not always then eat from the media what is presented to you for dinner. Who makes such a thing does not make smart decisions even on the subject of stock market.

I also find it very unfortunate how quickly people are stigmatized here as nazis or conspiracy theorists. Here, people make it as easy as the government, which quickly puts people in such a way, if they have a different opinion in a democracy. From my side, I would not open such political topics here or treat only from the point of view of the stock market but that is a matter of taste. Finally, we should all think positive. It brings nothing now already felt to lie under the earth. Please do not get upset and hold a grudge against others, they laugh themselves to death when it's so.

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Dominik@Finanzinik

4Yr

@ccf Honor ❤️

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Stefan@InvestmentPapa

4Yr

@meta I hope it also. But alone the thought that one with this action simply and finally EVERY argument and EVERY other opinion except the own view, thus extinguishes and imposes the will on other people, is a warning, no, a danger for the entire humanity. Incidentally, the grandparents of my wife said that these thoughts were prevalent in the cold war. "The fear that this morning was the last day."

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AI sagt@GoDividend

4Yr

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SquirtGame@SquirtGame

4Yr

What use are nuclear weapons if you can no longer threaten them? Nothing

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Stefan@InvestmentPapa

4Yr

@Eochaid "Personality (and I would add: character) begins where comparison ends." (Karl Lagerfeld)

Sorry, but your comparisons are exactly the kind of whataboutism that you (often justifiably) accuse others of. And that is honestly very, very strange to me.

Hence the insistent question:

Do ONE PAIR of neo-Nazis justify the invasion of one country into another?! Your reading of the conflict and war is shocking and demeaning to an entire SOUVERE country. You have not the slightest right to defend and/or compare this WAR OF ATTACK! You are, and I emphasize this now more than ever, with your comparison putting me and many other people, who also condemn the aggressions in other countries, below your opinion! With your renewed statements you are crossing a red line at least as much as one does not go for a walk with Nazis! YOU make yourself, and yes, because you don't understand it any other way and you are slowly but surely coming to seem more like a radical diehard to me, exactly the same as tyrants.
You know... your commitment against the right in all honor (you have no clue with whom you are discussing here and whom you are doing a disservice with your statements) but your statements are neither transferable to the entirety of the people there, nor are they justification enough to wage a war of aggression, nor does it give you the right to make comparisons with innocent people all over the world, nor are you better than some fascist in Berlin, Brandenburg or Mecklenburg-Vorpommern... you are obviously a person who defines his true way of thinking as anti-fascist under the guise of tolerance (obviously only towards people who speak the same way as you) and at the same time generalizes people with his statements and then dismisses them with "so clever" sayings.
Yes... I just realized that I didn't respond to your rebuttals under my other post... do you want to know why? Because that evening, after 12 hours of work, I met Russian and Ukrainian acquaintances (including two work colleagues) and none of these people from these two countries can understand your argumentation and that of the DICTATOR of Russia. And no, they are not outright opponents of Putin. Two of the people of Russian origin were at pro-Russian demonstrations not so long ago.
The CLEAR and IMPOSSIBLE statement of all participants at the meeting: THIS is a war of aggression and cannot be justified by any (hypocritical) explanation!
YOU, however, show neither character, nor decency, nor respect for your fellow human beings with your behavior. Your behavior in the fight against the right and other extremism does not justify your attitude towards sovereign countries with their own problems. Who are you as a German to presume to decide on the welfare or your favor towards other countries or fellow human beings? Because of your ancestry, YOU are committed to peace, prosperity for all, the idea of freedom and justice - just like every other person in this world. YOU enjoy your privileges and arm yourself with your actions against racism and misanthropy but sterilize UNJUSTIFIED ATTACKS on other countries!
I ask you: Why do most countries see this attack for what it is? Are you telling me the entire world is inferior and blinded to fascism?
I say NO! I say NO to misanthropes! I say NO to radical nutcases and extremists! I say NO to disrespectful behavior and hatred! I say NO.

I have now made my stand. Since you keep throwing the same incomparable and whataboutism justifications into the ether for me and others, I have to show you clear boundaries here! Once again, you are writing here with people you don't have a clue about... and that despite my previous apparent openness on this platform. I don't expect any other reaction for the reasons mentioned and I think that's a damn shame! But it proves to me that the thought patterns of our left have PLEASANTLY NOT CHANGED in 20 years!

"For freedom, for life, ....!" - you know how the slogan goes on... and I'll add: ...sweep dictators, misanthropes, aggressors off the streets!

Edit says: Did you watch the Bundestag yesterday? Even the party "Die Linke" has distanced itself from this behavior and its justification. So they're all fascists, are they? Nice and simple!

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Stefan@InvestmentPapa

4Yr

@Eochaid
I have never praised NATO, nor would I ever think of doing so. Why should I?
I am just as opposed to arms sales, both in times of peace and in times of war. Obviously, however, this "being against" does not have its time when the other party (in this case Putin and his lackeys) literally shits on diplomacy and shoots!

If you argue that sanctions will only affect the population, then for better or worse you are partly right, although the dynamic development (see Switzerland) also points to and is aimed at his "Circle of Trust".
And yes... in dictatorships and totalitarian states in particular, such restrictions initially affect the population, which proves that these tyrants and misanthropes have precisely this kind of mindset and exposes it. Simply doing without is not a solution either. And we are also sacrificing our freedom, entitlements and certain standards of living for these sanctions.

You keep referring to the fact that "we" as the EU or even NATO have done nothing against possible fascist structures. This is a straw man argument, because on the one hand you write that NATO has maneuvered itself into this situation by interfering and possibly expanding into Ukraine and at the same time you denounce the little work being done against fascism in Ukraine.
And again... what do we do then with countries like Hungary, Poland, Germany, France, the Netherlands and Co....? Are we justifying the same attack scenario here? No, you say... but why then with the Ukrainians? The majority of people there are not adherents of fascism, but were victims themselves or have victims from the time of German export fascism.
"Fascists, misanthropes, dictators.... Sweep them off the streets" - But Russia does? Sorry, but you let this argument stand because you say it's the excuse for Russia. But it's not the actual accusation. This is the lie of Tsar Putin. They are not concerned with fascism. He is not interested in the liberation of any people. No. As a person interested in history, you should be aware of what Russia did in Ukraine during the Soviet era. They trampled on the language, thinking and traditions of these people, banned them and tried to erase them from the collective memory. THESE ARE THE CLEAR GOALS OF FASCISM! THESE ARE ITS VERY OWN GOALS.
What is the situation in Ukraine for you? What do you think will happen when Putin and Russia learn that you can simply take over and invade countries WITHOUT resistance, without fighting, without losses, without impact on the economy, country and people.
Do you really think Putin has enough respect for the independence of the Baltic countries such as Estonia, Finland and the like? There have also been efforts by Russia for years to bring the people of Russian origin back into the "empire". Do you really believe that Putin recognizes the limits of post-war modernity? They didn't do it with Ukraine... so who should believe these empty words of a tyrant in his own interest?
We have seen again how this guy would not hesitate to press the nuclear button... he is actively threatening everyone in Europe and the northern hemisphere.
He is the one who brings the famous knife to a fight. He's the one threatening to start a nuclear war. Yes... that we are fearful, resistant and outraged is the ONLY RIGHT reaction and certainly not throwing around comparisons or arguments that must be clearly interpreted by third parties as a commitment to such actions.

Why shouldn't we run into each other on other topics or even the same topic? After all, we are engaged in dialog and discourse. Where would we be if all people engaged with each other in this way and did not immediately proceed with war and destruction? This world would surely be a better planet. If you and I manage to stick to the basic rules (respect, acceptance and the right to freedom of speech and writing) in the face of such opposing opinions, this should set an example to state leaders, but also to ordinary people and encourage them to follow suit. With this in mind, have a nice afternoon! Until the next topic or in response to this one...

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six@six

4Yr

@meta 🙈 There's probably no end to it until the last one has given his two cents. Sorry for the choice of words. But that has nothing at all to do with whether you don't care about the war.

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Stefan@InvestmentPapa

4Yr

@meta That was the trigger. I originally wanted to write it as a comment. Then I decided differently at short notice.

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Stefan@InvestmentPapa

4Yr

@six Because you are incapable of understanding the text, I feel deep pity for you. Otherwise, always a deep red return. What was that again? Didn't you want to hold back on Getquin? You were the one who liquidated his portfolio or passively converted or? Then act like it. For someone who is passive, you are quite active.

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six@six

4Yr

@InvestmentPapa Sorry I did not mean to offend you. Did not read the post either I must admit (because just another war post). And what has passive conversion to do with holding back here? Please do not get me wrong. We also talk to our children and wish for peace and all that, but does everyone really have to tell that here on this platform? Share it on your WhatsApp status, Instagram, Facebook, etc.

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Stefan@InvestmentPapa

4Yr

@six "Share it on your Whatsapp status, Instagram, Facebook, etc." - Exactly the same reasoning is used by despots all over the world. You can be of the opinion, but share it "in secret" but not where "I" can read it. On the subject of "didn't read the post either..." - Even if I have just a spark of disinterest and do not consider a topic relevant to me or see contrary... I first inform myself about the text or statement under which I put a comment. You have already "violated" the principle of discussion and expression of opinion. Yes I draw a clear connection to your passive strategy and the passive behavior, which you "force" us to accept, because in your opinion it does not correspond to a platform like this one. But you are wrong with that. You are welcome to, but then hold back with such statements.

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six@six

4Yr

@InvestmentPapa If you read my post earlier, that's exactly what I meant. You just "piss" each other off. And again on the side: - just because I don't tell everyone I'm vaccinated, I'm a vaccination denier - just because I don't constantly write how bad I think the famine is, I think it's good - just because I don't constantly post food pictures, doesn't mean I don't eat anything - just because I don't write something about the current war everywhere, doesn't make me a supporter ...

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Stefan@InvestmentPapa

4Yr

@six You still do not understand it. To say it in your wording: "Only because I represent my feelings, opinion and points of view, it is just no matter WHERE I do that! It is a matter of freedom of opinion." I have at no time claimed that YOU stand to war and its consequences. But what I expect from you, is the endurance of opinions and points of view. Even on levels and platforms, which according to your statement do not belong to it.

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six@six

4Yr

@InvestmentPapa ok. Since we have then just a different point of view. Let it be good. Everyone is just different with his feelings or emotions. Wanted in principle not even comment on your post but only the comment of @meta (you've brought me something) 😜

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Jonas 🕊️@TheAccountant89

4Yr

@InvestmentPapa You hit the nail on the head. And with that, I also spoke up a day earlier than actually announced. 🙈 Who does not endure such posts...what is then with the various statements in sports and business, the last few days. A comment here is of course only a small drop against it but opinions and viewpoints are important. And the topic is now times from no corner of society to ignore. Therefore also GQ relevant!

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