Would you start saving for a gold etf at the current time or would you rather save for silver?
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Hello everyone,
Is it better to save gold monthly via Bitpanda or via the ETF $WGLD (+0.27%) at Trade Republic?
Perhaps you already have some experience.
Feedback for a beginner
Hello, GQ community!
I'm 50 years old and I'm very new to this interesting world of investments.
I believe it's never too late to learn something and start a new journey.
I plan to travel for about 15 years 🤞🏼🙂
I watched a lot of YouTube videos before deciding to switch to ETFs from simple deposit accounts. Actually I don't have knowledge yet to invest in individual stocks, so I'll go all-in on a few ETFs, trying to diversify a little bit. They say is good not to be entirely exposed to the US market, even though it should be every portfolio's core.
I started with a 5k allocation and I chose $IWDA (-1.03%) as my core, $SMEA (+0.09%) for the European market and $AASI (+0.7%) for a share of emerging markets ( 👉🏼 I wanted them to be Asian only, but then I realized $AASI (+0.7%) overweight US 🙄 Why its name is so deceiving?)
In short guys, by next week I plan to allocate another 20k to boost my portfolio and then saving every month.
I'd make $IWDA (-1.03%) at least 50% of my position, I'm considering the purchase of some $EIMI (+0.06%) shares (more focused on EM) and maybe soon a crypto ETN/ETC (I still have to understand which is the best offered solution from my broker).
I wouldn't exceed 10% for $WGLD (+0.27%) and 5% for the crypto.
- Do you have any tips?
- Do I already have overlaps?
- Does make sense to save on some $IS3R (-0.93%) shares just to get a tiny boost to my returns?
- Which would be the ideal % for every allocation?
[👉🏼 If I get a negative feedback about $IS3R (-0.93%) and $AASI (+0.7%) I won't sell them, but just let run as it is]
Thanks in advance for any precious opinion!
You always have to look what kind of replication your ETF does. It can be physical (the etf buys real stocks) or synthetic (the ETF does Swaps). Your EM ETF has a synthetic replication. That’s why getquin shows you different stocks, then the ones that are really part of the ETF. So don’t worry, your EM ETF does not invest into US stocks. You can choose a different EM ETF with physical replication to see the real allocation.
I have some questions for you, so i can give you some advise:
What is your main goal with your portfolio? Do you want to build wealth or a passive income?
Why do you invest in gold? The return not exceedingly high but some people want it as a security. But those buy physical gold.
Are you familiar with the distribution of Bitcoins and how so called whales effect the BTC price?
My answers to your questions:
Yes you have some overlap between the MSCI World and the Europe ETF but this is totally fine because your aim here probably isn’t mainly a greater diversification but a higher weight on european stocks and thereby less weight on US stocks.
In my opinion the Momentum ETF is not a good choice. It invests into stocks that had a high performance in the past but that doesn’t guarantee future returns.
The ideal allocation depends on your opinion on what’s the best ratio of risk and return.
Maybe create some test portfolios here on getquin with different allocations and look at the region and sector allocation. This way, you can adjust it and compare until you find your personal ideal allocation.
Gold ETC tax-free
Is the $WGLD (+0.27%) tax-free after one year of holding?
Depot review 2024 - outlook 2025
2024 was an exceptional year for me on the stock market. With an initial portfolio value of € 25,854.15 on January 1, 2024 and an impressive final value of € 49,403.99 on December 31, 2024, I almost doubled my capital. This success is also reflected in the performance figures:
- Initial portfolio value: € 25,854.15
- Final portfolio value: € 49,403.99
- TTWROR (time-weighted return): 24,91 %
- Internal rate of return (IRR): 25.67
- Price gains: € 6,979.27
Change of strategy: focus on ETFs
Over the course of the year, I made an important change in strategy. My previous investments in dividend-paying individual shares were gradually reduced and the focus was placed on ETFs, in particular the S&P 500 and the FTSE All-World. This decision was based on the realization that no private investor can consistently beat the market with individual shares in the long term. It therefore makes more sense to match the market performance - with the help of broadly diversified ETFs - rather than lagging behind expectations.
In addition, I have diversified my portfolio with gold and Bitcoin to minimize volatility while benefiting from alternative asset classes. This mix of traditional and modern investments has proven to be a stabilizing factor.
Largest positions
- S&P 500 $VUSA (-1.13%) : 18.294 €
- FTSE All-World $VWRL (-0.91%) : 5.897 €
- NVIDIA $NVDA (-3.63%) : 3.104 €
Top Mover
- Walmart: +79 %
- NVIDIA: +78 %
- BlackRock: +28 %
Dividends
Although dividends are no longer the focus of my strategy, I was still able to record €794.18 in dividend income. Although the original goal of generating € 1,400 in dividends was not achieved, it is no longer very relevant due to the new priorities.
Goals
Much more important was the overarching portfolio target of € 40,000, which was clearly exceeded with the final balance of € 49,403.99. For 2025, I plan to invest at least € 11,160 in new money. My aim is to actively manage the invested capital, as the portfolio value itself is determined by the market. From 2025, I will only invest in the S&P 500, gold and Bitcoin on a monthly basis via a savings plan.
Conclusion
My stock market year 2024 was characterized by a conscious and successful change of strategy. The focus on ETFs as underlying investments, coupled with the addition of gold and Bitcoin, proved to be the right decision. The impressive performance of the portfolio shows that a long-term, diversified strategy can not only bring stability, but also substantial returns. Special thanks go to @Epi who advised me to add $WGLD (+0.27%) gold $BTC (+0.71%) Bitcoin to my attention.
Your hard-earned money deserves nothing less than perfection. At best, always buy a broadly diversified ETF. I look forward to 2025 and am excited to see how the journey on the financial markets continues.
My financial targets for 2024 are as follows:
- Deposit size of € 40,000
- Net dividends with a value of €1,400
- Focus on growth of the portfolio
- No expansion of high-dividend stocks
- Higher weighting of ETFs
- Better diversification
What are your goals?
After asset diversification (via ETFs) and asset class diversification (via BTC, gold), the only thing missing now is solid strategy diversification. This step is the most challenging and least considered, but ultimately perhaps the most important 😉.
Hello word
Hey guys.
I found getquin a couple of months ago and initially just used it to monitor my portfolio.
In the last couple of weeks I have been diving into all the community posts and reading some of the interesting stuff posted here every day. So I decided I wanted to be a part of this and will start by introducing myself and what my thoughts and plans are for my portfolio and future investments.
Currently I am 26 and doing my PhD in molecular biology in Germany. In 2020 after school I took my first steps into the world of investing by opening a fund at my bank through a friend of mine who works there. I started with 2 investments; UniGlobalnet and UniNachhaltig Aktien Global with 25€ per month. I mostly forgot about them during my studies because it was not that easy from time to time, so I did not have that much spare time. I was also lucky that my parents paid for almost everything so I didnt have to work after university. But of course I didnt have a lot of money to invest, so I was happy with the way things were going. Since November 2023 I have been working as a research assistant at a university. The salary is 65% of a TV-L E-13, which is about 1,9k netto. Not much, but I really enjoyed spending large amounts of my first real "earned" money. But after a few months I decided that it would be better to invest it in parts. So I opened an account with finanzen.net and started investing in different kinds of ETFs and other assets like $XDWD (-0.98%)
$VWRL (-0.91%)
$NVDA (-3.63%)
$WGLD (+0.27%) and stuff like that without even knowing what I was doing. It was all fun and games and the returns did not look too bad. Over the course of the month I added a few assets through individual purchases and also added some monthly payments for ETFs or stocks that I found interesting.
A couple of months ago I also signed up to Trade Republic (mainly because I wanted the fancy card) and have been using the cashback and round-up facilities there to do some passive farming, but with no real focus on it.
Now I want to add a bit more structure to my portfolio and wanted to get your opinion on my plans. The one Union Investment funds I want to sell over time, but only 1k a year because of the tax exemption order here in Germany. The money will go into one of the core ETFs. I have made some individual purchases such as $NTMC (+7.91%) and things like that just to see how they perform in the future. I know it's not ideal to hold so many positions with so little money, but they're not in my payment schedule, so I'll just hold them. For the next few years I will only be investing in a few ETFs rather than all the ones currently in the portfolio and will also be reducing some individual stocks to focus on a few. Do you have any suggestions on which ones to hold and which ones to sell?
My aim for the next year is a monthly rate of 350€ (see picture) in different assets and for the long run to buy and hold everything. Im not quite sure what I want to do with the money in the future, that just depends too much on things I cant really say at the moment like my position after the PhD, family etc.
These are just some initial thoughts and I would appreciate any comments or advice from you guys, thanks in advance! :)

Small additional purchases in the course of diversification
Yesterday I said goodbye to the $TDIV (-0.63%) and part of the sale went into my position. $BTC (+0.71%) position. This now accounts for a weighting of a good 10%.
I see crypto as a sensible addition to any portfolio. I have also recently built up a position in gold via $WGLD (+0.27%) built up a position in gold. Both are held for the long term and are not traded speculatively.
How high is the weighting of Bitcoin in your portfolio?
I would like to add gold to my ETF portfolio. Since I don't have a huge savings rate as a student, it doesn't make sense for me to buy physical gold, which is why I would like to use a gold ETC. Trade Republic offers the $SGBS (+0.3%) and the $WGLD (+0.27%) .
The $SGBS (+0.3%) stores the gold in Switzerland and the $WGLD (+0.27%) in Great Britain. As far as I understand it, with both you have the right to have the gold physically delivered to you if you want it at some point. I am now wondering which of the two ETCs makes more sense and whether there are any fundamental differences. Can anyone tell me which one is more suitable? My monthly savings rate is currently €100, which I can currently choose between the $VWCE (-0.92%) (70%) $GGRP (-0.99%) (15%) $FGEQ (-1.25%) (15%). Now I would like to add some gold with 5-10%. My investment horizon is 20+ years.
I look forward to your advice.
LG
🏅First tranche was purchased from TR.⚜️
Thank you very much for the quick answers regarding $WGLD (+0.27%)
I wanted to add gold anyway, but rather via a savings plan and then by mail order if I have enough savings. But you took the question of which asset to use off my hands. :D
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