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How I am now getting back into ETFs (and why I even bought an MSCI World)

Dear community, I have recently and also previously explained from time to time why I find the MSCI World in particular stupid and why I don't enjoy investing in such an ETF. If you want to know the exact reasons for this, you can also read about it here: https://getqu.in/YgdvFh/


Anyway, I have now found the time to take a closer look at ETFs. And I can tell you one thing: Soprano buys the MSCI World before GTA 6. To be precise, it has already happened. What sounds "normal" to some people is definitely not to me. Anyone who has read the old post and knows my opinion on the MSCI World and knows that I only hold 100k in individual stocks - no passive investing, no core satellites - will understand that it may be interesting for some to read the background to my change of heart.


One of the main reasons for my world aversion is that I don't like the weighting of bad assets by market capitalization at all. In my Sturm & Drang days, I once tried to get around this with a self-built portfolio with GDP weighting. In other words, you buy one ETF each for the USA, Euro Stoxx, Switzerland, Japan, UK, emerging markets, etc. and then try to weight them yourself based on their actual economic strength. What sounds like an incredible clusterfuck is actually one. I abandoned this idea after just a few months because, in my view, it combines the worst of active investment and passive investment. Since then, I have only had around 2% of my assets in an India ETF (which is currently under review) and 2% in an active fund and have invested the rest in hand-picked individual stocks.


But enough beating around the bush. I'll tell you which ETF I bought and, more importantly, what I was thinking. It is the $IS3R (+0,9%) (MSCI World Momentum Factor ETF). To explain it briefly: the ETF does not simply invest in all the companies in the MSCI World and weight them according to the question of how big the company is, but prefers to buy the shares that have performed well in the past.


I see three very specific advantages here compared to conventional index investments.


Firstly the main advantage of an ETF is that you can trust the ETF provider to react faster and better to trends than you would yourself. I keep hearing that the 70% USA in the world is not a problem at all, as the ETF would simply "reallocate" everything. If rebalancing is so great, then it's best to trade trends in a fund that was specifically designed for this purpose.


The second advantagel is that momentum (after value and before quality) is one of the factors that can achieve a statistically significant outperformance compared to the broad market. This should not be underestimated either.


The third and final advantage for me personally is that it covers a blind spot in my portfolio. I myself invest mainly in shares that are very profitable but are also growing well. This corresponds to the factors "quality" and "growth". A typical example of this would be Microsoft. And of course I also try to get such companies as cheaply as possible ("value").

However, what I regularly don't do is get into shares that already seem expensive but continue to rise massively. That's why I also miss out on opportunities like $AVGO (+2,51%) and $COST (+0,3%) - is simply because I am relatively cautious and don't use/understand charting techniques. Such stocks typically end up in the portfolios of colleagues like @Dividenden_Monteur while they starve on my watchlist. A momentum ETF gives me the chance to be on board here, and far more so than conventional world investors.


Of course, I should not completely ignore the potential disadvantage that such an ETF is fundamentally more susceptible to fluctuations and therefore more "dangerous" than the index.


For me, this is a test phase for now. I hope I can remain loyal to the investment. But maybe I'll go crazy again and switch back to pure US investments, either with a normal S&P or something more extreme with smart beta factors and leverage.


May the holy Amumbo be with you!

Amen.

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I think that's a massive mistake. The only factor that really worked in recent years was quality. But there are so many gradations. Momentum, value and co are simply underperformers in volatile markets. I would now say that the markets are not slowing down, but rather becoming more volatile.
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@topicswithhead Thanks for your input, but is that really the case? I have of course looked at the performance and just on 3M, 6M and YTD the momentum factor was MASSIVELY better than the conventional one. So with the Trump tariffs and the war you got away with better momentum.

Theoretically, you're right that momentum gets into real trouble when the market turns. But funnily enough, it's the quality stocks that are currently trending best and are therefore stronger in the fund.

It just looks at how investors are hedging and then does the same. At the moment he's going overweight Broadcom, Berkshire and Costco and throwing out Alphabet and Tesla. In itself, this sounds like a sensible set-up for volatile markets - to get out of cyclicals and buy insurance companies.
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@Soprano On a 5-year horizon, Momentum is 7% behind the world. It also had more vola. It performs massively better over 10 years. Using momentum as a core is questionable in itself. Then your thesis must be that trends last longer than 6 months min. If you believe in that then it's worth it. Otherwise they are more expensive for stocks that are delayed in an ETF. If you look at what has brought returns, it has been the last 8 years. Just don't believe in factor strategies. That always means you have to make an underlying thesis
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@topicswithhead Well, I can't use it as a core anyway. Where am I supposed to get another 100k+ from now? Even if it makes up 10% at some point, in the end it's just an admixture :D

But if you don't like momentum then you probably don't like leverage either. Now let's be honest. Which ETF would you recommend if I don't want a normal World and ACWI?
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@Soprano I like leverage. I leveraged my 2024 portfolio with credit, despite 5% interest. Momentum can work. But studies show that historically beta strategies only work at intervals and if you look at value, it's been years. I only believe in quality, but there are a lot of junk ETFs. The problem with quality is that it is very tech-heavy. They usually rely on asset light models. I would look for a super cheap World or ACWI. The ones from Amundi, but not many like them, or the ones from SPDR. Of course there is a lot of overlap, but that won't be any different at the moment. Certainly Nvidia, Amazon and co the top positions
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@topicswithhead I mean it should only be a supplement to your shares. So why not use the normal market return. It's best to take the largest position but not via your equity portfolio. Hedge yourself against the market
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@topicswithhead Yes, I definitely think quality is good, but I have already represented it well in the depot.

If I simply buy a passive and normal ETF then only an S&P 500. There would also be a multi-factor version with QVM, the IE00BDZCKK11, but the normal IE00B5BMR087 would be enough for me.
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@Soprano Normal is not always bad, and you don't always need something niche just to avoid following the crowd. I hardly see any reason to only have the USA, even if it has performed better and will probably continue to do so. If you can get the other part of the World so cheaply, the 70% USA is still worth it. I just take a sober approach, and it shows that the smart beta things are hardly worthwhile. Our investment horizons and choices are not all that different. I already had almost all the stocks you have in your portfolio or still have some of the same ones. Regardless of that, if you need something else: what do you think of PE or PC? With 100k you can slowly make a few investments to cover the sector. Whether that's via Eltif or in a company, you'll have to see
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@topicswithhead Yes, but I really don't have the feeling for these ACWI stories. I always think of financial flow. So nothing against the guy, but somehow you really have to want to be such a calm and moderate German in a turtleneck sweater. 🫣 I'd much rather be a young Buffet.

Yes, I would find private equity interesting in principle. But I have no idea how to do it at all, I think you usually need millions for that. I had a look at this ELTIF that Scalable offers, but you can't even find out what you're actually investing in. The main thing is that the thing has endless fees.

I have excluded private credits. It seems completely illogical to me why I should lend money to people who nobody else wants to lend money to. Bonds or bond ETFs are much safer. And the returns will be the same.
And somehow I think personal loans are more of a thing for cash flow investors, i.e. grandpas who always go all in on dividend stocks and are happy about their consumer goods shares 🥲
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@Soprano PC doesn't necessarily mean lending money to people who otherwise shouldn't get it. I find PC very interesting, more interesting than PE as a small investor. Have a look at $APO. I'm about to buy, but my limit hasn't jumped. I'm not a fan of most PE shops but there are a few interesting ones
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Yes. This is the way. ✌️😁

Greetings
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