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VW and Porsche SE

I'd like to hear your opinion on $VOW (+0,82%) and $PAH3 (+1,24%) .

I’ve been invested in Porsche for quite some time now (it’s a typical dividend-paying stock—I hardly pay attention to the share price), but I’ve just added to my position. I just think they’re too cheap, and VW’s crisis reports haven’t been worth taking seriously for a long time now. I remember last year when the workforce gave up their bonuses because of the crisis, and then suddenly €6 billion was “found” in 2026. Just in time for the executive bonuses.

I just noticed that Porsche’s equity is out of proportion to its market capitalization. There’s even an abbreviation for that, though I can’t think of it right now.

I did some research and learned that it’s called a holding deduction or something like that.

Porsche SE stands or falls with VW. But what do you think of the stock?

Analysts rate VW’s fair value significantly higher.

Thanks in advance for your answers.

10 Commenti

FinanzMechaNik@FinanzMechaNikk

I don't think much of either of them 😅 Sorry, but aren't there much more attractive stocks when it comes to dividends?

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Julien@jul1en1406

22H

@FinanzMechaNikk Could you please give a few specific examples?

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FinanzMechaNik@FinanzMechaNikk

21H

@jul1en1406 I won’t give any specific examples, because that would veer into investment advice. But I’d be happy to explain what I personally look for when searching on the usual stock search engines:
1. A long-term upward trend where the stock price regularly touches the 200-week moving average, thus offering good entry opportunities (long-term growth)
2. Ideally, a stable business model—preferably with high barriers to entry for competitors (quality and moat)
3. Market capitalization in the mid-, large-, or megacap range (the company is already well-established)
4. Dividend yield between 2–6% (excluding REITs, as they distribute 90% to investors anyway)
5. Payout ratio <70% (roughly speaking, the company retains enough cash to make new investments)
6. Moderate to low debt (roughly speaking: the company does not overextend itself and remains profitable)

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FinanzMechaNik@FinanzMechaNikk

21H

@jul1en1406 With the filters mentioned, I think you should be able to find some pretty good options. And last but not least, it certainly doesn't hurt to always ask yourself whether you might be better off with, say, a dividend ETF, since the risk is even more broadly diversified.

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Julien@jul1en1406

17H

@FinanzMechaNikk Thank you so much for the detailed explanation!!!!

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Julien@jul1en1406

17H

@FinanzMechaNikk Can I ask what you think of $PG right now? Is it a good place to start? Of course, this isn't investment advice😉

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Dom@SSVDom

I have VW in my portfolio and I don't buy into the doom and gloom either. Sure, there are definitely problems. But the company is still turning in billions in profits. Cost-cutting measures are underway. I'm in it for the long haul and think the company will bounce back.

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Echsenkönig A.@Bezehgombjuderstimme

So if you had bought VW in 2006, you’d be in exactly the same spot in terms of share price. The same goes for Porsche in March 2009. Even if my boss drives five Porsches, that won’t pull the company out of the mud. I steer well clear of these companies, dividends or no dividends. Their business model is too capital-intensive for my taste, and they’ve been getting left in the dust by international competitors in every area for years.

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Rene@Snakeinvest

I only like $PAH3 because they want to broaden their base and diversify their capital more, and yes, the dividend is attractive, but I've also been thinking about whether I should sell them off completely.

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Mike U.@MikeUpegui

I have both stocks— $VOW3 and $P911 —in my trading portfolio. Both are currently showing losses of 24% and 3%, respectively. Risk management is key.

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