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Finance Minister Klingbeil hints that the 1-year holding period for Bitcoin and cryptos should be dropped,

so that he can give away and burn even more money. Old-age provision is to be made more difficult. Poverty in old age is encouraged. 11 million people own BTC / cryptos in Germany. SPD = They are plundering Germany .

Austria collected exactly EUR 33.84 million in 2024 as a result of the abolition of the one-year holding period and the introduction of the flat-rate crypto tax (27.5% capital gains tax), which corresponds to just 0.57% of total capital gains tax revenue. This means that the actual tax revenue falls massively short of the government's initial expectations, which had originally hoped for new revenue of up to 300 million euros; the hoped-for big windfall for the state budget by putting cryptocurrencies on an equal footing with traditional shares has therefore definitely failed to materialize.

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Link to the video: https://youtu.be/EijNrsRfPbU

www.youtube.comKlingbeil deutet hier an, dass die 1-jährige Haltefrist von Bitcoin & Kryptos fallen soll #BTC #spd

31 Comentarios

Homer@Simpson

Well, if tax then for everyone 😊 no extra sausage for crypto fart, I also pay over 25% tax on my dividends and share profits

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ThetaShort@ThetaShort

@Simpson But then also for gold, please.

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Homer@Simpson

@ThetaShort well physically the purchases are difficult to prove

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Techaktien@Techaktien

@Simpson The other way around. Abolish the tax. Precious metals and art also have this tax exemption after 1 year.

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Solitair@Solitair

@Techaktien the question is how much longer

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Get_Rich_or_Die_Tryin@Get_Rich_or_Die_Tryin

@Simpson is also very simple. A simple majority to tighten up the Money Laundering Act.😇 Identification from the first euro for transactions outside existing business relationships and then it is very, very easy to do.😊 And that could also be sold in a very positive way.🤷🏼‍♂️ After all, it serves to combat money laundering.😅 The same requirements for secondary market purchases and the bag is finally closed.

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Techaktien@Techaktien

@Simpson Austria collected exactly EUR 33.84 million in 2024 as a result of the abolition of the one-year holding period and the introduction of the flat-rate crypto tax (27.5% withholding tax), which corresponds to just 0.57% of total capital gains tax revenue. This means that the actual tax revenue falls massively short of the government's initial expectations, which had originally hoped for new revenue of up to 300 million euros; the hoped-for big windfall for the state budget by putting cryptocurrencies on an equal footing with traditional shares has therefore definitely failed to materialize.

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Daffy@Daffy

@Simpson First time I've ever found a Homer post totally pointless.^^

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WWW@dividend_hunter_458

@Simpson Nein.

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Ben@Bart_S

@Simpson tax could be levied on every sale. Without any problems.

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Alfred@Alfred16

@Simpson Wrong way of thinking in my view. There should be no taxes anywhere, after all, they always demand that we should make private provision for our pensions.

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MarTheRadi@marda304

When I hear that, my pulse starts racing. One thing is certain, if the SPD strives for justice, one thing will not happen. Justice. But it will be expensive.

Why sugar tax and not sweetener tax? It's also unhealthy. And why a plastic tax? We've already tightened the lid and that should save the world.

Why not a salad tax? Lettuce uses a lot of water. Or a fruit tax. Because fruit trees hurt birds when they fly in front of them. Why not a fat tax. Oh, bad ...

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NichtRelevant@NichtRelevant

@marda304 The window tax also existed in the Middle Ages - it will be reintroduced and, above all, everyone with windows will have to pay for the last 600 years!!! And for all those who quickly bricked up the windows - no chance, I've seen it. There was a window in there - I'll report it to the window reporting portal of the tax investigation department.

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Robert@Baraccus

quod exspectandum erat.... Antifa Lars halt... 🙄 Has never really worked, which is difficult when you've had your hands in other people's pockets all your life.

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Epi@Epi

EU needs more revenue for new tasks.

Collecting new taxes = new tasks.

Ergo: EU needs new taxes to collect new taxes.

That's logical! 🫪 What's the problem with that? 🤷

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Epi@Epi

It looks like governments have not really understood capital markets in general and cryptocurrencies in particular.
Taxes only exist when two events coincide: 1. crypto markets rise, 2. people sell their profit positions.

There is nothing to be gained in crypto winter. Worse still, the losses from crypto can finally be offset against gains elsewhere, so that tax revenues actually fall. 😅

They are so stupid. 🫣

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MarTheRadi@marda304

@Epi But they act like kings.

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lavdim@lavdim

Why should bitcoin profits not be taxed?

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Techaktien@Techaktien

@lavdim Because the income has already been taxed. See also precious metals and art.

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Joshua@WarrenNakamoto

@lavdim because taxes are robbery

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Felix@Investor_in_Jogginghose

@lavdim Why should profits be taxed?

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Bruce💎🙌@BruceBullridge

There's really nothing more you can say about it. But one thing occurs to me: the fat years produce bad people and the bad years produce good people.
I think the fat years are coming to an end soon, the advantage is that we should produce decent and charismatic politicians again in an absolute depression, who will lead the country out of the crisis and give us fat years again.
Right, then we'll be living in complete decadence again and the failures in government will drive the country to the wall again within a decade😆👍

From my point of view, if the government really wanted to help people, it could do a lot of useful things, but raising taxes is just the easiest thing to do.
After all, the sword of Damocles of the VAT increase is still hovering over us, and I think the sugar tax is already a done deal. Everyone should be feeling the effects of the CO2 tax by now, and when the CO2 certificate trade is finally implemented without a government price cap, even the last Green voter should have noticed.

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MarTheRadi@marda304

Now the EU also wants taxes on crypto profits. Why? Because it's fair.

https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/international/haushalt-eu-will-neue-steuern-fuer-krypto-gluecksspiel-und-digitalkonzerne/100219815.html

These greedy princes can't get their fill.

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Murcielago@impuff

The government is at the end of its rope and wants to make as much cash as possible before it steps down

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Uwe@SchlaubiSchlumpf

@impuff Do you know how governments work? Why should Lars fill his pockets with tax revenue? It doesn't end up in his bank account. With Lobby-Kathi that's probably more true 😅

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Murcielago@impuff

@SchlaubiSchlumpf A Lars can never take anything for himself. This kind of thing works via cliques, via NGOs, via development aid, via posts, via awards, it's always something and somewhere. Corruption needs lubricants in the form of money. And the more money, the better. That also applies to Kathi.

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Uwe@SchlaubiSchlumpf

@impuff exactly. In contrast to Kathi, I don't have any clues about Lars so far

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MarTheRadi@marda304

@SchlaubiSchlumpf No, Lars is a man of honor. He gives up everything. No pension, no privileges, no office with heaps of important employees. No free banquets. You can see that in his face.
Of course, he doesn't patronize his NGOs, which are extremely important. They all run successful businesses themselves. That's why he doesn't transfer millions to the "non-governmental organizations"

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Uwe@SchlaubiSchlumpf

@marda304 I basically see your point. You can at least strongly question what role NGOs play in the decision-making process. Especially if your wife is the managing director of one.

However, I think you also run the risk of confusing cause and effect here. NGOs are initially not profit-oriented. Yes, they pay their employees (although my last knowledge is that they earn relatively little). But they don't live on air and love.
In my view, however, it is difficult to compare cases in which, for example, the partner has a high position in the company and presumably receives bonuses for political contracts or if the politician then moves to the company that previously benefited from their own decisions.

It should come as no surprise that NGOs sometimes participate in political decision-making. When Greenpeace says "we think the Greens are better than AFD", it is somehow in the nature of things (although the Greens are probably too conservative for Greenpeace 😅). Companies can and should do the same.

However, I probably agree with you that suspicious cases should be investigated very rigorously.

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