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What's not Sharia-compliant about 3M?

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@halal_investieren Would still appreciate a response.

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@income_magician_28 In principle, in addition to excluded business models (armaments, tobacco, drugs & Co.), there is also a ban on interest rates. The latter is unavoidable on the stock market nowadays. There one helps oneself at least with it to set up a tolerance limit for these, in order to still take the best. Interest income is diverted from the some investment by donations. In the case of 3M, it is an excessive amount of interest-bearing debt.

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@halal_investieren I understand the excluded business models. nor do I fully understand it. You have debts and pay too much interest?

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@income_magician_28 Nothing absolute, but related to the market cap. It's simply a matter of the proportion of borrowed capital, regardless of how much interest is paid on it. Taking and giving interest is not actually permitted per se. There is only a tolerance here, taking into account the current framework conditions. If you are interested in the topic in more detail, here is something more detailed: https://halal-investieren.de/grund-der-30-grenze-im-financial-screening/

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Karaman Halil K.@Giresun28

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@halal_investieren thank you. Can you give me the numbers where this was now the case at 3M?

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Rick don't be ridiculous and invest your two pennies. Don't annoy the people who have their fun here. How hateful do you have to be to defend your point of view so stupidly. Thank goodness you don't represent society.

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Epi@Epi

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Is halal actually an out- or underperformance factor? Are there any quantitative studies on this?

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GeldmitKopf@cashwithhead

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@Epi There is but nen ETF to it can look like the performance is. Just do not know how the name but have once seen one had.

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Epi@Epi

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@cashmitkopf Good idea! https://extraetf.com/de/etf-comparison?etf=IE00B27YCN58,IE00B4L5Y983 In the long run, halal seems to be rather detrimental to returns, about -1.5% pa.

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@Epi If you follow the theory "in the long run the market always wins", then the ETF cannot outperform. Here, you do without many sectors - banks, everything that has to do with defense companies, thereby also such things as Airbus, Boeing etc. How you come to -1.5% but I do not understand 😅 The development of MSCI World Islamic is yes under the link the same as the conventional MSCI World - only more blunted. 10J: 140 instead of 170% MAX also similar 😅

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@Epi Sorry I correct, have read too fast there. harmful to the "return": That's right 😅 Kind of "read" something like "money is burned" 😁 The return is less, I agree with you 😁

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Bullnbear@Bullnbear

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It is certainly difficult to invest Halal in the stock market - but I would probably prefer the MSCI World Islamic.

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Memo0606@Memo0606

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@Bullnbear there are stocks in the world islamic etf e.g. porsche which are not compliant according to zoya... just one example of which there are many! that's why i didn't buy the world islamic etf

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Bullnbear@Bullnbear

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@Memo0606 difficult topic, otherwise Barbershop or Shsihabar

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Memo0606@Memo0606

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was ? 😅😂

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Fritzl@Fritzl_Fantom

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What may satire

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keinStress@keinStress

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Buy high sell low 🔥

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Anditisgone@Anditisgone

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Good for them.

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A Z.@GreedyA

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why is 3m not sharia compliant? wtf?

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Crist@savvy_investor_60

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Hey @halal_investieren are you still active? Because I have a question.

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@Ohne-lowe-Binde https://halal-investieren.de/lexikon/scharia/ 😉

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@halal_investieren omg I'd rather stick to the basic law, life is too short for mumbo jumbo

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@Ohne-lowe-Binde You don't have to stick to it 😁 Those who want to do it this way, just do it 😉

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@halal_investieren What do you think is higher than the Basic Law or Sharia?

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@Ohne-lowe-Binde It's not as if I don't adhere to the Basic Law. There is nothing contradictory in the first place 😉 And as described there, there is no such thing as a sharia. It is much more a method of norm development. Unfortunately, the term is at least in the German-speaking world directly negative, because certain things are associated with it. Just because someone somewhere thinks that is "the Sharia", it does not mean that it is so. 😊

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@halal_investieren Are the Taliban practicing Sharia law or are they infidels exploiting religion?

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@Ohne-lowe-Binde Unfortunately, I do not know the subject well enough to be able to judge. But oppressing people is definitely not part of "the" Sharia. Just as there are Christians who misinterpret things and do harm, there are unfortunately also Muslims who do so. Just because there are speeders on the road who endanger people, I don't give up my car. There are just some think they would be on the racetrack, but are usually much less than you think. 2 billion Muslims in the world, who adhere to such rules more or less. No matter if you call it Sharia or not. Fortunately, there are only a minimal fraction who misunderstand. M.E. therefore also makes no sense directly to put every Muslim under general suspicion. 😊

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@halal_investieren why do not you know? Finally, the Taliban are constantly in the conversation, they use Islam or not? I do not find your answer very serious, Afghanistan in the 60s was similar to Germany (women in miniskirts, etc.) today the Taliban rule and Islam prevails, would you like that in Germany?

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GeldmitKopf@cashwithhead

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@Ohne-lowe-Binde Shut up! What is it with you? If you do not like it then ignore him. I emfinde helal invest also as nonsense but does he harm someone with it? no? In addition, your comparison and the connection with the Taliban and the invested already very limp. Let live as long as you do not hurt anyone.

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@cashmitkopf First of all, I may ask when and what I want, you have nothing to dictate to me. Secondly, I recommend you to consider your statement. Just stay out of it.

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