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Money market ETFs as an alternative to overnight money hopping

(More independence from banking strategies)


Thanks to @Epi
@femkelbn
@DonkeyInvestor for drawing attention to this :)




Functionality


Money market investments offer an opportunity to participate directly in the key interest rates set by the central bank.


Money market ETFs are traded as normal on the stock exchange and have a price at which they can be bought and sold.

Unlike overnight money, a custody account with a broker is required. There are no high-risk shares in the money market ETF; instead, it tracks deposits that are represented by the respective interest rate on the money market.

Banks, companies and governments invest money there in the short term and give each other loans with short maturities. These bear interest - and a money market ETF generates its return with this interest.



Risk assessment


In their capacity as funds, money market funds also reduce the credit risk for their investors. Investors benefit from the diversification of the fund portfolio across different instruments, markets and issuers.


One negligible risk is the lack of deposit protection. This is the case with a fixed-term deposit account, but as the ETF is classified as a different asset class, this protection does not apply. Why negligible? Unlike other investments, the money invested is kept as special assets and is therefore protected against the insolvency of the issuer.


The second extremely low risk is the counterparty risk.

As with other ETFs, this risk is borne by the respective provider of the swap transactions*****. However, UCITS ETFs may have a maximum swap share of 10% (and these are still part of the special assets and the provider must deposit collateral).



Example of money market ETF returns


4% key interest rates -> 3.6% €STR/ return p.a.

-2% key interest rate -> -1.6% €STR/ return p.a.

within one year steadily rising interest rates from 0 to 4% = past annual return approx. 1.5%



Yield calculation of modern money market ETFs


Short-term (e.g. euro) interest rate €STR (always just below key interest rates, shows current money market transactions) ***

  • Spread calculation by the bank of 0.085%
  • 0.1 TER (annual ETF fee)



Utilization thesis


Banks pass on more or less interest to the consumer at different times, depending on the strategy and account type. In order not to be dependent on the strategy of the house bank, a money market ETF is suitable as long as the interest rates of the interest rate shown are higher than the bank's offers (or are higher on average than offers from other banks to which one could switch)


The risk is significantly lower than that of a capital market investment and the changes are precisely predictable.



Example $XEON (-0.01%)


Xtrackers EUR Overnight Rate Swap UCITS ETF 1C


Xtrackers provider, part of the DWS Group (841 billion under management, in comparison: DEKA (savings bank) manages 372 billion)


EUR overnight rate Index tracks the performance of a deposit bearing interest at the short-term euro interest rate (€STR)***


Swap Swap contract *****


UCITS ETF ETF subject to the UCITS rules of the EU


1C Accumulating, does not distribute but reinvests



The ETF mentioned above can be purchased via ISIN LU0290358497 from almost any broker. The annual return tracks the €STR, so the return for the last year is 2.29% (key interest rates rose from 0 to 4.25%, €STR thus from -0.5% to 3.6%)


If key interest rates were to remain at their current level, the above-mentioned $XEON would gain approx. 3.66% p.a. in value.


(ETFs can always be bought and sold when the stock exchange is open, i.e. on weekdays from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. in Germany alone).




Personal Action example


I get 1% on my call money account at my bank (ING). This is my nest egg, as I don't want to be dependent on my broker paying out money quickly. (As there is no guarantee how quickly the money will be transferred back from the clearing account, even if in practice it is usually a few days)


I store all other savings that are intended to preserve assets in the $XEON (buy the ETF via my broker) until the interest rate of the €STR is below the interest rate of my call money account (1%). Then I sell the ETF via the broker, i.e. transfer the total amount back to my house bank.


Alternatively, I always have the option of switching to other call money accounts when new bank offers come up, but I don't open any new accounts so as not to negatively impact my SCHUFA (+ I'm lazy and want to avoid switching accounts 3 times a year).


So instead of having to deal with interest rate offers from all possible banks, I only have to deal with the ECB's key interest rates, which are minimal for me.

This always happens with media attention!










*Money market

Companies, governments and banks borrow money on the money market in the short term. Loans are always granted slightly below the current prime rate. The central bank uses this to control how worthwhile it is for all parties involved to grant loans etc.



*** €STR

The €STR correlates with key interest rates, it reflects the cost of euro overnight loans from banks based in the euro area.

The €STR is based entirely on daily confidential statistical data on money market transactions collected in accordance with the Money Market Statistical Reporting Regulation (MMSR).

See the current ESTR price in the dashboard here:

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/stats/financial_markets_and_interest_rates/euro_short-term_rate/html/eurostr_overview.en.html#calc


**** Key rates

Key interest rates are the interest rates at which banks can borrow money from a central or central bank.

High key interest rates lead to rising account interest rates (e.g. on savings accounts, call money accounts, fixed-term deposit accounts), while low key interest rates lead to falling account interest rates, as banks want to attract customers by passing on some of this interest.


***** Swap contract

2 contracting parties conclude a contract to exchange payment flows under certain conditions. In this case, short-term bonds.

Swap risks: https://www.fe.training/free-resources/financial-markets/swap-risks/





The whole thing is very easy to understand as a financial flow video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obmjt4USeXQ


Has also been written before from the Xtrackers profile:

https://app.getquin.com/activity/VqQlgUhtaB


More info here:

https://etf.dws.com/de-de/etf-wissen/angebotene-assetklassen/xtrackers-geldmarkt-etfs-eine-alternative-zum-tagesgeld/


https://www.dbresearch.de/PROD/RPS_DE-PROD/PROD0000000000441769/Geldmarktfonds%3A_Wie_sie_funktionieren_und_wer_sie_.pdf?undefined&realload=QkMX6LOLGWSNjtzjf9QtZBpIFsdCB9jVZrQuIwxG3OoH4Hqzk8Ok3hrhgyZTEXZw


Sources


Internet


https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Glossareintraege/L/002_Leitzinsen.html?view=renderHelp


https://etf.dws.com/de-de/etf-wissen/angebotene-assetklassen/xtrackers-geldmarkt-etfs-eine-alternative-zum-tagesgeld/


https://www.finanztip.de/blog/geldmarkt-etfs-die-bessere-alternative-zu-tagesgeld/#:~:text=So%20funktionieren%20Geldmarkt%2DETFs,ein%20Geldmarkt%2DETF%20seine%20Rendite.


Books


"Investing professionally in ETFs" by Michael Huber, ISBN 9783959726832 Finanzbuch Verlag



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@ccf @ccf @ccf

One is not enough. Thanks for this
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@DividendenWaschbaer I pass it on to those from whom I got the idea@Epi @femkelbn
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Thanks for the clarification! One small thing is still missing: an explanation of how such a money market ETF actually works (short-dated government bonds plus swaps, counterparty risk regarding banks refers to the swap part, which is 10% at xeon). This is a bit complicated and needs an explanation, I think.
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@Epi I do, but now I have to work :) as soon as I have time
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@Epi added a one-liner to risk assessment and functionality, does that suit you? :)
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If you only open a call money account and not a current account with other banks, it should not really affect your credit rating, should it?
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@BMac correct, but can often only with Giro together
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Very well summarized 👍👍👍
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Top report. Use the recently and am now more confident to have done the right thing 👍
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@DerMartin as long as you have a plan to bridge the payout period in case of emergency go for it
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What @Epi says - do you still like to take in with special assets and the regulation valid in the EU with security deposit/swap portion Max 10% ? Or overcollateralization.
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Well to the point. Who wants to put perhaps but a part of the nest egg in an ETF, here is the somewhat safer alternative:$EXVM TER 0.13% Ausschütter(one does not want to build up the nest egg unnecessarily further than necessary 😉) Effective yield 3.39% Source: https://www.ishares.com/de/privatanleger/de/produkte/251779/ishares-ebrexx-government-germany-0-1yr-ucits-etf-de-fund Still quite interesting on the subject (here both ETFs are also mentioned as options) https://gerd-kommer.de/geldparken/
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@six danke 🙇‍♂️
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@six how is the "somewhat safer" meant?
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@ChrisBizz one is a SWAP ETF, you have a certain default risk of the issuer. And, if I'm right, it's almost 100% British bonds, the other one is 100% German bonds (it can't be safer) and it's not a swap ETF either.
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@six All right, that is clear. Thank you 👍
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@six Moooment. 10% max swap risk because UCITS ETF. the article of Kommer can be read well :)
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@leveragegrinding Yes, I wrote "certain risk of default". Was not sure whether 10 or 20% and did not feel like looking, hence the formulation
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Thank you very much for this detailed and especially understandable explanation @ccf
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Thank you for this very interesting recommendation !👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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@leveragegrinding A stupid question - as long as the key interest rate is positive, the price of the ETF can only rise, right?
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@Zukunftsminister Let me think Now it is strongly positive If it falls to 1% and the €STR to 0.75 the yield per year must be 0.75% from new entry Assuming it remains at the level It rises slowly Yes exactly But the ESTR must be positive, not the prime rate
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@leveragegrinding top Thank you!
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@ccf


Thanks for the post. Been invested in $XEON for a month with my nest egg and feel absolutely comfortable with the decision!
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@DividendenReiniger is just the trend it looks like
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@leveragegrinding Financial flow has already made a video about this 3 months ago 😅
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@DividendenReiniger yes I also saw when I was looking for it
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Is the $XEON at 4% interest (Trade Republic) currently actually still worthwhile? Current €STR is at 3.9% What do the money market parkers say.
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@Zony my parents have 50tsd on TR and sink the interest, it goes on the Estr :) But only make if you already have TR, no extra account create imo. Unnecessary effort. Highest interest rate with already existing bank take and otherwise Estr. ready
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@getquin1234 I have a TR account and currently my nest egg in $XEON. But then consider pulling out again for the time being and parking at TR.
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@Zony simply How many days does it take until you have the transaction costs from the Xeon sale at 0.1% more back in? From there it is worth it Is not much but why not.
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@getquin1234 To have or not to have is currently the motto. That's money that should just lie around and is for emergencies. To get something for it is fine. The transaction costs I make up with the interest received so far. But thanks for the feedback. 🤝
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@Zony achso I'm leveragegrinding btw. that's why I also answer here😂 2. account for ad demos
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@getquin1234 all right 😂👍. Then thank you Moritz.
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Very good 👍
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Does it make sense to do something like this through a provider like UnitPlus with availability of the money via MasterCard?
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@Kntzn depends on the cost of the provider I would say spontaneously
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@ccf also comes into the #gqevergreens. Can you possibly add what the 10% swap risk means in practice? Possibly with example / scenario?
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@ccf so instead of FM now all in xeon? but let's assume the market remains unchanged for a year like this would you continue to save xeon? I think except for the swap risk it is almost too good...... What I have also been looking for. Was the current interest rate I get with xeon, because in all product descriptions I have currently found no direct number....
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