Hey, first of all: It’s great that you’re taking steps to secure your financial future. You’re already further along than I was at your age (back then, I had neither the capital, the perseverance, nor people around me who encouraged me to invest in stocks). Is that 3k your “rainy-day fund”? If so, I’d keep it as accessible as possible and put the interest earnings on the back burner… unexpected expenses always pop up when you don’t have the money readily available.
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•@Aelthred Exactly, it’s supposed to be a kind of nest egg. Right now I still live at home, so there aren’t too many unexpected expenses, but in case the car breaks down, etc. My goal is to save up 5,000–7,000€ by the time I finish my training—after that, I’d like to move out at some point, of course. It just bothers me that the money is just sitting around “doing nothing,” so I’m thinking of opening a money market account—with a 2% interest rate at Chase, that would at least be an extra €5 in income per month.
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@FroschFabian I can definitely understand that point of view, and it would bother me too. In addition to Chase, which starts at 4% and later drops to 2%, there are other providers... for example, BigBank at 4.05% and Norisbank at 4%. Based on my preliminary research, Norisbank is the safer choice if it’s important to you that the German deposit insurance applies. Just as an aside: I’ve personally had positive experiences with Trade Republic, ING, and Trading 212, but they don’t offer 4%.
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@Aelthred Thank you 👍
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•With Scalable, the overnight money isn't actually protected by deposit insurance, is it? After all, part of it is invested in money market funds—or can I select the partner banks as the type of custody account?
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@FroschFabian Feel free to correct me, but as far as I know, money market funds are separate investment funds. If a bank goes bankrupt, the fund’s assets are not included in the bankruptcy estate. However, you always bear the fund’s market risk. But people say that’s rather unlikely with a money market fund.
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@Aelthred Of course, Chase is covered by the German deposit insurance scheme, just like Scalable’s overnight savings account and others. I think that these days, when opening an account takes only a few minutes, it’s okay to hop from one promotion to another…
Norisbank, for example, would be out of the running for me if you read the fine print… they tie the introductory rate only to a checking account, and after the promotion ends, you get a tiny interest rate.
Good experiences with overnight money accounts: Chase, Scalable, Renault Bank—monthly interest payments—and my personal favorite 🧐😀
Fixed reference account
Norisbank, for example, would be out of the running for me if you read the fine print… they tie the introductory rate only to a checking account, and after the promotion ends, you get a tiny interest rate.
Good experiences with overnight money accounts: Chase, Scalable, Renault Bank—monthly interest payments—and my personal favorite 🧐😀
Fixed reference account
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•@FroschFabian The purpose of an emergency fund is not to generate any return. It must be free of any exchange rate risk, fully liquid, and immediately available.
Your stock portfolio, including its fluctuations, will and should generate that return.
Of course, you can use your emergency fund to take advantage of overnight deposit offers, always keeping the aforementioned points in mind (-> “Investment Triangle”)
My emergency fund is currently held at Scaleable Capital. Yes, the money is (partly) invested in a money market ETF, but this money is still covered by deposit insurance (since it’s a money market account). They simply make it transparent where the money is held—unlike traditional banks. No traditional bank just “sits on” the money; instead, they use it to fund other operations. Your interest has to come from somewhere, after all ;-)
Depending on what you plan to do with your portfolio, you could, for example, check out the FTSE All World from other providers that have recently entered the market. Most of them are accumulation funds, but they’re quite a bit cheaper than the $VWRL. Otherwise, you are your own greatest source of leverage: improve your education, increase your salary (and thus your human capital), and invest in yourself.
You should also look into topics like disability insurance, because it’s significantly cheaper to get coverage now while you’re young (for the same benefits) than it will be in a few years.
Your stock portfolio, including its fluctuations, will and should generate that return.
Of course, you can use your emergency fund to take advantage of overnight deposit offers, always keeping the aforementioned points in mind (-> “Investment Triangle”)
My emergency fund is currently held at Scaleable Capital. Yes, the money is (partly) invested in a money market ETF, but this money is still covered by deposit insurance (since it’s a money market account). They simply make it transparent where the money is held—unlike traditional banks. No traditional bank just “sits on” the money; instead, they use it to fund other operations. Your interest has to come from somewhere, after all ;-)
Depending on what you plan to do with your portfolio, you could, for example, check out the FTSE All World from other providers that have recently entered the market. Most of them are accumulation funds, but they’re quite a bit cheaper than the $VWRL. Otherwise, you are your own greatest source of leverage: improve your education, increase your salary (and thus your human capital), and invest in yourself.
You should also look into topics like disability insurance, because it’s significantly cheaper to get coverage now while you’re young (for the same benefits) than it will be in a few years.
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@SaltyMainDD Well, at Trading 212 it's at least 3.5%... on an ongoing basis
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