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Trading - more than hectic trades and coffee consumption ☕☕☕☕

The image of a trader is often characterized by countless monitors, charts and ticking price information. Hours spent drinking coffee, rapid decisions, lots of stressful trades - this is exactly how many people imagine trading.


But the reality is completely different! 😎

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For a long time now, I've wanted to write an article about trading and give interested community members a deeper insight. You often hear the infamous killer argument: "Don't do it, 80% lose money." But trading is much more than just a game of chance!


For me, "trading" has developed into an exciting hobby over the years, through which I can with little time investmentbut a serious approacha nice additional income can generate 💰💰💰💰


If you're interested in this topic, let me know! I'll be publishing more posts on the subject in the near future - especially for anyone who wants to learn more about trading.


As my time allows, I might take a closer look at the following questions in posts:


  • Trading vs. buy & hold - Which strategy suits whom?
  • Requirements for trading - What should you bring with you?
  • Time required - How much time is really necessary?
  • Trade frequency - How many trades do I make as a part-time hobby trader?
  • Capital - How much do I invest in my trades?
  • Profit vs. loss trades - My balance sheet for 2025 YTD
  • Income - What can you earn as a part-time trader?
  • Trading setup - Saving the most exciting for last - Which indicators do I use?


And, of course, I am also happy to answer specific questions.


What there will most certainly NOT be here:


  • ❌Dubious Telegram channels or invitations to YT, Insta or other social media channels
  • ❌Trading signals or unrealistic promises of profit
  • ❌"Hot" tips - you won't find them among my friends or relatives, nor here!


I'm happy to share my personal experiences, but without any hocus-pocus or get-rich-quick promises. It's about honest exchange for everyone who is interested in trading!


$NOVO B (-2.96%)

https://getqu.in/1On8c7/

https://getqu.in/uDPZI1/


$UBER (-1.11%)

https://getqu.in/3E9eGr/


$RDC (+1.22%)

https://getqu.in/A7DjXN/


$KTN (+1.49%)

https://getqu.in/HdajJf/


$ADYEN (+2.45%)

https://getqu.in/s32Hc0/


$GOOG (+1.97%)
$TSLA (+3.67%)
$META (+1.05%)
$AMZN (+2.15%)
$NVDA (+1.36%)

#trading

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I would find such a series of articles very interesting! I'm sure there's a lot to learn. 😊
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@Epi I think it's great that you are also taking part in an exchange on a topic that is rather contrary to your very analytical, scientific approach. You can certainly learn something from each other that way.
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Love the post and like to follow.

Not a fan of tagging the non-affected stocks (Even though I can understand extending the reach).
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@GeldGenie I understand, but without shares the post usually goes completely under or doesn't appear to many. But in my defense😉, these are also stocks that I like to trade and where I've been posting from time to time recently.
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@TomTurboInvest

Welcome to my world when I post about budget, CHF or macroeconomics 😂

Make links to old posts (possibly good anyway if someone doesn't know you yet) and then mention the stock. I can let that slide. 😜

Like your posts. Great work 😊👍 Thanks!
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@GeldGenie have added a few links from the posts of the recent past 😅
I hope this works for you 🫣😂
Greetings to Switzerland - PS: I am often in the vicinity of Zurich
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@TomTurboInvest
Helps too, I think 👍 Expect a 25% share of your followers' success # 😜

Greetings back to the neighbor. 😉 Live/work in Zug since last year. ZH wouldn't be far away 👍
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Just had a look at some of your posts and your profile. You definitely have added value and it's because of people like you that I use this platform. I'd love to see more, I'm looking forward to your future posts.
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Yes, I would be particularly interested to know which indicators you use and which stocks you trade. I've tried my hand at certificates so far, some of them went really well and one went bloody wrong.

I also want to turn trading into a source of income to top up the dividends and put some of the profits back into the portfolios. However, I need a way to do it with little time commitment, as my job and other things keep me very busy.
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@frugalfreisein Spoiler: the time commitment will surprise most people
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@TomTurboInvest I think you work with SMA or MACD and only when something overlaps do you place a trade, the whole thing hedged with S/L. In any case, I'll be surprised. :)
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@TomTurboInvest Yes, maybe in the end, but it takes a while to get there.
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@TradingMelone assuming, of course, that you are familiar with chart analysis. If this is new to you, it takes an investment to learn it, as with everything...
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@TomTurboInvest do you have Discord ?
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@TradingMelone no - apart from GQ, I am a "cybermof" and only consume information passively, e.g. via Insta
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@TomTurboInvest mhh that's a pity, I would have liked to invite you to a group.
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Get something out. Still have a bunch of coins to distribute 😉
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@paradoxx ah, you were the winner of my 21,000 coins 👍
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Very interesting what you write there. 😊 I have to follow you right away.
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I would be particularly interested to know what return p.a. on the overall trading portfolio can be achieved depending on the time invested in your experience. Is it possible to beat the MSCI World?
I always read here about successful (or sometimes failed) trades, usually with a few 100 euros invested. But is it also possible to manage a portfolio in the mid six-figure range?
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@randomdude The return naturally depends on your risk appetite. My goal is always at least 45% per year. To achieve this, I use around 50% of my portfolio for trading. The stake doesn't matter, in percentage terms it's the same whether you do it with 10,000, 100,000 or 1 million. If I buy 1000 shares, you just buy 10,000. You have to separate yourself from the absolute figures, otherwise you will be ruined if a trade goes wrong. I always calculate in % and set myself percentage profit targets for each trade. When these are reached, I consistently move the SL mark to that point. The same applies to losses. I set myself a maximum loss target that I am prepared to bear. I also only ever put a maximum of 3-5% of the total portfolio value into a security. At the moment I am almost fully invested and my 50% trading volume is spread over 17 positions.
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@Multibagger Interesting, thanks for the insight. Does the 45% return apply to the entire portfolio or to the 50%?
And how much time do you invest?
@randomdude on the total portfolio. The actual trading effort is relatively low. But I read a lot, as I tend to trade based on fundamental data rather than technical indicators.
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@randomdude I don't want to spoil too much, as @Multibagger has already written, it always depends on the stake or position size.
If I couldn't beat a world ETF or a good dividend portfolio, then I wouldn't trade. The proportion I trade with is always in the range of 10-15% of the total portfolio, but this proportion is in the 6-digit range and the position sizes are accordingly in the mid 4-digit to 5-digit range.
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I'm very interested, as I'm currently doing a lot of trading and would like to try my hand at it.
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I would also like to know more about this. I am currently following a buy & hold strategy, but had a demo account for CFD trading a few years ago.

Here's what I find particularly interesting at the moment.

- Can you get so far into the red in trading that you are liable to make additional contributions?

- What about taxes on trades? Are there automatic tax deductions and loss offsets?
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@Jurboss B&H does not exclude trading, my core is also B&H. More details will follow in the articles 😊
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@Jurboss I don't think @TomTurboInvest does CFD trading. You can't really do that as a hobby either. Of course I know professionals who only do it from 15-18:00, but that's the exception. I don't do CFD trading either, because the risk of loss is too great for me, because you can lose more than your stake. In contrast to @TomTurboInvest, I trade more with derivatives and he trades more with shares. But both are possible, depending on risk tolerance, capital to be invested, etc.
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I'm definitely interested and would be very happy if you could tell us more about it🤩
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But it's all down to Trump anyway...
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@TradingMelone I was already trading before Trump 🤣
Joking aside, a trader doesn't care what the reason for the vola is, right? You are one too 👆
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@TomTurboInvest Sure, I'm just kidding.

I like to call myself a trader yes. Others probably call us long-term gambling addicts🥴😂
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Very interesting! love to read and learn about it!😁
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I'm looking forward to it 👍🏼
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I would be very interested 🤓
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I'm very excited!
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We've been waiting for this and it's finally here! 😍
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I'm in ;)
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Sure, it's always good to learn something new. I'd be there!
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nice idea, thanks, I'm interested.
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I would find it very interesting if you had the time and inclination to shed some light on it from time to time! 👍
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I personally find that very exciting! 👍
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I'm already a follower anyway and am happy about every exchange with members of the community here who, like me, belong to the minority of traders here.😉😂 I would also find it interesting to share trades and exchange ideas about them when you enter them. Then everyone can decide whether to follow it or not.
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@Multibagger with Novo, Shopapotheke and Adyen among others, we seem to have a similar focus anyway 😅
Btw - with the Adyen entry from last week I just made a 4-digit book profit today, still hoping for a short/medium term 1.800€+ as TP price
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@TomTurboInvest Congratulations! I started a long trade on $MELI the day before yesterday to compensate, which didn't perform too badly after yesterday evening. Unfortunately a normal OS and no KO for once. Therefore only 30% up today
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Such contributions are a real added value for qetquin and the community. So more of them are welcome 🙏🏼
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I would love to get to grips with it, but you read and see so much on the internet that you can't see the wood for the trees.

I've also been able to sell a few positions with leverage here and there with a good profit, but I've also fallen flat on my face with a total loss (but have long since made up for it)
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A great idea. I really wanted to start or recharge my knowledge during the summer vacation. In this respect, it would fit very well and I would be delighted if you could (continue to) impart knowledge to us.
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Great interest!
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