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About non-fried chips, unknown tech gems and why Nvidia alone is worth nothing - Overview Semiconductor Stocks

The rise of $NVDA (+6.53%) and other tech stocks, more and more investors have been drawn into the semiconductor industry in recent months and years. However, due to the enormous size and complexity of the industry, it is not easy to keep track of who is contributing to the global market now and how, and which stocks could outperform the market in the future.


1) What is the semiconductor industry doing?

The semiconductor industry basically manufactures microchips as an end product, which consist of millions and millions of tiny switches. These products have become an integral part of our lives and can be found everywhere. Examples include the data centers of $GOOGL (-0.65%) smartphones from $AAPL (-0.29%) , drives and inverters from $TSLA (+0.79%) or $SIE (+1.1%) or in the systems of $UKW (-1.04%) . But also toothbrushes, ATM cards, passports, watches, lamps, and and and...


2) But the best microchips are made by $NVDA (+6.53%) ?

Yes, in the area of graphics processors... If you look at the Semicondutor Top100, many well-known names appear: $AVGO (+2.73%) and $QCOM (+2.37%) for communication, $AMD (+1.41%) and $INTC (-0.79%) for processors for PCs, $TXN (+2.06%) and $STM for discrete components, $IFX (-1.12%) and $NXPI (+0.97%) systems for the automotive industry and security solutions and many more...


3) Aren't the manufacturers taking market share away from each other?

No, because each company specializes in its own field and is the world market leader in one area. You can think of it like the automobile industry: Lamborghini makes sports cars, Landrover makes jeeps... Could Landrover make sports cars? Sure. Would they be good? If enough money and time is invested, certainly. Would that make sense? Probably less. And that is precisely where the value of semiconductor manufacturers lies. As the products themselves are highly complex, the know-how has to be built up over decades. The development is associated with extremely high costs and project durations from idea to mass production are rarely less than 3-4 years. That is why it would not make sense for e.g. $NVDA (+6.53%) would not make sense to enter the power sector, as established players with a head start of many years have already established themselves there.


4) How are microchips built now?

Many steps are required to manufacture microchips. The engineers at the semiconductor manufacturers develop the circuits for the final products. As the structure sizes are in the nano-meter range, they have to rely on simulation environments such as $CDNS (+4.92%) or $SNPS (+2.47%) simulation environments. Once the engineers have developed and checked everything (a non-existent first-time-right costs many millions!), the data is sent to the fabs. Depending on the manufacturer, the in-house ($005930 , $STM , $IFX (-1.12%) ) or, as in the case of e.g. $NVDA (+6.53%) external. In other words, Nvidia itself only develops the "schematics" for projects, the final product comes, for example, from $TSM (+2.86%) or $GFS (+0.05%) . These fabs take orders from many different manufacturers and produce the products millions and billions of times in close coordination with the manufacturers...


5) How do the fabs produce the microchips?

As complex as the microchips are, the production itself is just as complex. In order to be able to create structures of just a few nanometers, clean rooms are required that are many times cleaner than operating theatres. These cleanrooms are now home to machines from $ASML (+1.31%) , $AMAT (+3.17%) or $7751 (-0.74%) . These machines now manufacture 24h on the basis of various semiconductor materials such as from $ATS (+4.2%) or $WOLF (-0.76%) the finished products. These are sent back to the manufacturers, checked (in a first phase manually by the engineers with products from e.g: $KEYS (+1.08%) , later fully automatically with e.g. $TEK ) and then sold. Here again there are intermediaries such as $SMCI,
$SIE (+1.1%) or $AAPL (-0.29%) who buy finished microchips and process them for larger products. Interesting here: Apple, for example, develops many things itself, but buys know-how and products from other companies because the entire development would be far too complex. In other words, semiconductors from many different manufacturers can be found in Apple products or other products - so there is also a great deal of interdependence, depending on the core competence.


6) What will become NVIDIA's No. 1 pursuer?

Hard to say. As described, the entire semiconductor industry is very closely linked. Based on global trends, different companies will benefit. Be it the companies in the first row (manufacturers) as well as those in the second and third (fabs, suppliers, software, end customers,...) The interdependence results in enormous opportunities for many companies but also many risks - for example, if Taiwan is attacked $NVDA (+6.53%) with production of $TSM (+2.86%) (not just Nvidia but virtually the entire industry) and the market shifts completely.


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  • No guarantee of completeness or correctness, the entire industry is very extensive.
  • If you are interested in this sector: A very good explanation of the entire process can be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kj58yQ67KI . Here it also becomes clear once again how large the sales figures (and thus also the risks of the companies) must be for the R&D and production costs to pay off. Remember the project durations here - who knows what will be important in 5 years?
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I see $UKW I press Like 👍🏻
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As you say: no claim to completeness. Nevertheless, I would like to add a few "honorable mentions":

$KLAC
$ONTO
$TER
$9072
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@RealMichaelScott The first two don't even tell me anything😂 I actually wanted to use Teradyne as a tester stick, but I couldn't find it anymore in a hurry:) But yes you are more than right🙌
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@RealMichaelScott Based on the suggestions, I assume that you work in a fab?🤔
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@InternetExplorer Not directly in a fab but already in the immediate vicinity of the semiconductor industry 😉
@RealMichaelScott so suppliers?
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You are a doer for the contribution!
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You simply forgot to mention $ARM. Without their architectures, Apple, Nvidia and co. wouldn't do anything at all
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@IloveStocksandDividends Well, it's not like $INTC / $AMD with x86 or Risc-V wouldn't exist;) But of course, another very, very big player in the whole shark tank🙌
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@Fabian @ValueWilli
Thanks for your answers. As I said, even if the probability of an armed Taiwan conflict is <20%, it is worth making provisions against it as a kind of hedge.
$GFS and $INTC seem to have medium-term capacity in Europe/USA. But who could scale highly complex semiconductors such as an H100? Extremely good research could pay off here...
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@Kotschi_232 As far as I know, Intel is at the top of ASML's delivery list for the new chip machines. I think this will result in a considerable leap forward. But it's all just a lot of half-talk... sry half-knowledge 😉✌️
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It's a shame that you didn't touch on AI, as that seems to be the most exciting area
@Krush82 The reason is quite simple: AI and microchips are fundamentally different things ;)
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@Krush82 Or to make it clearer: Put simply, an AI is a type of software that makes calculations... You can basically write this software yourself and run it on your PC or cell phone... Would work, but it's really slow... To make the calculation faster, better software (chatgpt) and/or better hardware (Nvidia) can be used... This is also the reason why Nvidia and $SMCI are currently benefiting so much...
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@InternetExplorer Nvidia GPUs are actually just graphics chips that happen to work well as all-rounders for AI. However, they are not the best chips for AI-specialized applications. The chip start-ups Cerebras and Groq have or are developing more powerful chips for e.g. the interference of large language models such as chatgpt and co
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The cleanrooms have nothing to do with the complexity of the chips 🤓 It's simply a matter of preventing any contamination of the finished chips.
ASML and its EUV lasers work in a high vacuum, so nothing can penetrate during the process
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@Der_Dividenden_Monteur Yes and no. Contamination on the unfinished chips at the various levels can also lead to functional failures in the finished chip. Contamination can potentially cause a fatal defect in the chip at every stage of production.
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@RealMichaelScott Absolutely right. Moreover, no process is perfect. DUTs at the edge of the wafer are processed differently than DUTs in the center... This results in differences for the function that must be eliminated by the engineers with built-in calibration functions or BISTs... The better the fab has the process under control, the less complexity is required for a high yield. High yield = more profit;)
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@Der_Dividenden_Monteur and also with the ASML machines, particles on the wafer (or even on the back) that originate from pre-processes can lead to incorrect exposure and thus to non-functioning chips.
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@RealMichaelScott incorrect exposure is always possible anyway, with or without particles, simply because of the way ASML machines that use euv work.
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@Der_Dividenden_Monteur Yes, of course. Several errors are possible in each step. I was mainly concerned with the statement about the finished chips. It is possible to "kill" the chip with particles in every step 😅
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With a ~20% probability that China attacks Taiwan and semiconductors from both regions are temporarily no longer available: which semiconductor stocks would then be the winners? Keyword production capacities in USA/Europe/Japan/South Korea?
@Kotschi_232 If that happens, all hell will break loose first... You can't just send orders from one fab to another, the processes are fundamentally different... In other words, first there is a worldwide shortage of chips combined with a global economic crisis... Then it depends on who has the most capacity where and can switch the fastest...
@Kotschi_232 https://www.visualcapitalist.com/semiconductor-foundry-companies-ranked/ describes the extreme dependence on Taiwan quite well...
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@Kotschi_232 $INTC that focus more on foundry business einschiessen✌️
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@ValueWilli I agree with you. $INTC will (in my opinion) become all the more important as its transition to a contract manufacturer progresses. This means that $7731 in particular will also benefit, as they supply the systems to Intel. Source: https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Nikon-carves-lens-expertise-into-niche-in-chipmaking-and-space
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Neat! $AFX I haven't found the mirrors for $ASML 🙂
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Forgot design part of semi and companies like Cadence and Synopsys
@reach2ashish nop, they're linked
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