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Climate protection

Why nothing is possible without the economy (anyway)


At the beginning

After more than a month of break due to lack of motivation, I'm back with a new post and the plan to continue this in the next weeks, at least every Sunday. I leave out my introduction and pin it from now on in a corresponding article in my profile.

So, a blessed Easter Sunday, good luck looking for eggs and hopefully fun reading!


Introduction

Fifteen years old, is at least a little interested in politics and likes to discuss. I guess for some people the image of a boy who skips school on Fridays to join FfF, who wears t-shirts with big, broad slogans and who has a rainbow flag hanging in his nursery comes up pretty quickly. Admittedly, maybe this is a bit exaggerated, but for many people it reflects my generation. Left-wing, green and unrealistic, but above all for the climate, whatever the cost. Past mere reason, asleep in economics class, but all the more for the introduction of a (partially) planned economy to save the climate. After all, what use is a liberal economy if the world is going to end?

Admittedly, on a FfF demo I was also already. But that was to profess solidarity with Ukraine and already there the exaggerated slogans disturbed me. Partly completely polemic, partly completely absurd, with demands that would push our economy over newly created cliffs.

Meanwhile one hears unrealistic climate demands also in social media more and more often. Because even if they may be right in essence and want the right thing, their problem remains the same. Instead of recognizing that climate protection and the economy have to go hand in hand, they confront, antagonize and fight each other.


The problem

Some of you may have read my article on the subject of morals on the stock exchange. Among other things, I dealt with mineral oil companies and pointed out the mandatory change to climate neutrality, companies must adapt to the spirit of the times in order to continue to write green figures, because otherwise no one will buy more. I compared this with the growing organic offer in supermarkets, which comes to stand for a simple reason, people buy. I received a comment under the post describing climate protection as a luxury problem, and in a way he is right and hits a central point, about which in my eyes is spoken far too little.

Climate protection is expensive, very even and for many people therefore simply not affordable.

The word luxury problem is not meant to suggest that climate is not a real problem. Much more it should clarify how difficult it can be to pay attention to the climate. The regional organic lemon is expensive, a hydrogen or electric car is even more so. Taking the train to the grandparents is out of the question, when the price for the same distance by train is easily three times as much as by car. And what does the energy-efficient renovation of the already too small house on the outskirts of the city cost? Definitely too much, especially for a problem that seems so far away to so many.


The question

The questions we will have to deal with in the coming years are endless and they will become more and more. But one question remains and will probably continue to do so in the future, the question of financial viability, feasibility and, above all, economic viability. Because if a technology is not economical it is bad, costs too much or does not address the problem properly. And what costs a lot, but should be implemented by everyone, even those who cannot afford it, costs the state money. That's how a social market economy works. And I do not want to criticize the principle of our social state, quite the opposite, especially with such conversions and problems it needs him urgently. But I would like to make aware that such costs in the end someone must bear.


So what is the solution?

Well, there are actually two, maybe three if you look at it more closely. We massively subsidize technology that is inefficient and not even necessarily sustainable, as we have done in the past with electric cars, we leave the question of feasibility and implementation to people who know about it, trust the market as it has worked wonderfully in the past, or we leave everything as it was. Personally, I would prefer option two. Admittedly, it may not be quite that easy. And the market will still be based on supply and demand, not on global warming. That's why we need Subsidies of the state, for example in the form of tax breaks, which provide incentives to become climate-neutral, not bans. Because these have the opposite effect. Instead of promoting climate protection and involving the market in the process, we are using planned economic instruments and perhaps even banning the technology. could.


Conclusion

We must become climate neutral, that is out of the question. The crucial thing is no longer to find the goal, because we have already done that. The crucial thing is to pave the way to get there and to address the question of whether we want to do this with or against the market. Because in my eyes, it is the task of our state to lead the way to the goal, to pave the way with support and subsidies, but not to stand at the starting line with the set of rules and exclude participants who might have been the first to arrive. Because who wins is ultimately decided by consumers, market economy principles and not the state or politicians who have no idea about the technology itself.


#klimawandel
#wirtschaft
#klimaschutz

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First of all: You are 15? Respect for this contribution! I think it's good that you're trying to build bridges. This is definitely needed. But for my personal taste you are - like most of the users here - too liberal. The question is not, what does it cost us to save the climate. The question is, what does it cost us not to save the climate? I was a fiery advocate of direct democracy a few years ago. Until I realized that many people have strong opinions about things they have no idea about. That's why I now think this layer of politicians is pretty good. Politicians also have to make unpopular decisions against the people that most of the people would make differently because their view is too short term. Of course, it would be even better if these were made by experts and not by politicians, as in the case you describe: Certainly, the right decisions are not always made. It is also impossible to always make the right decisions. But someone has to set the course, and I'm very glad that our government - with all its faults - is doing that. For me, climate protection vs. the economy is similar to security vs. freedom. If you give up climate protection for the economy, you will end up losing both. And in the meantime I believe that it is no longer necessary to "give up" in order to lose both, but that subordination is sufficient. I don't know, but fortunately I pay someone to take care of it for me. And now let the 🆘 rain 😁
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@DonkeyInvestor

well written 🙌
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@DonkeyInvestor Thank you for the feedback and the interesting way of looking at things!
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@DonkeyInvestor "The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill By no means is this to say that democracy is not the best form of government we can achieve, but I agree with you that it is good that we elect our elected representatives who have more of a clue than you do. Democracy also means trust, and the issues that occupy the world are more complex than you think. There is no point in ranting at everyone and everything. I am never available for such discussions within the family, not because I do not have my own opinion, but because I distance myself from generalizing all solutions as simple. The referendum in the UK to remain in the EU, for example, is the lived quote.
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Direct democracy does not work because most people are too stupid or their foresight is limited to a circle with a radius of zero.
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@DonkeyInvestor Politicians should make decisions against their own people? Google times the 3rd way they find with something like that the best breeding ground. Recently, we also have a problem with "right-wing" in the Bundeswehr and police. If now really the executive looks the other way then it will be difficult for the legislature especially if they decide against their own people and thus against their oath.
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@KleinviehmachtMist The problem is not the politicians but the people, who often think too short term or don't think at all but only want to save their own ass. It should not be decided on principle against the people, on the contrary. But sometimes it requires unpopular decisions. Not only in politics but generally in the management of people / organizations / structures / ...
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@DonkeyInvestor Leadership demands integrity, and you don't get that by forcing decisions that lead nowhere. Then comes a landscape painter from Austria with some charisma and then you get popular decisions. The reaction to the painter from Austria, by the way, was a comrade who had a wall drawn around his entire nation and defended this border internally.
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@KleinviehmachtMist no one says that you become a leader when you force decisions. But if you are a leader, you also have to make decisions and not always just do what the majority says. Then there would be no need for a leader, if he is no longer capable of making decisions himself.
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@DonkeyInvestor Decisions must be made on a basis. In this case, this is the constitution and there it is clearly regulated that there must be a majority consensus for decisions. Only this ensures that decisions are not made every 4 years.
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@DonkeyInvestor agree with you there. There is often a lot of opinion with little knowledge.
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Very interesting 👍🏻 Personally I see it a bit different and history shows that you can't achieve anything with good will and voluntarism. Sometimes the state has to help with strict rules and laws to make something happen. (Examples: compulsory seat belts, KAT etc.) The market goes by efficiency and why should you offer expensive and inefficient e-fuels when the state still allows normal diesel? 🤷🏼‍♂️ (Simple example.)
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@Staatsmann I see it exactly the same way. In addition, there is great potential in these areas, since taxes such as Co2 or others are eliminated. Also, the types of energy are usually much more efficient and cost cheaper if you would first produce them in proper measures. Therefore, subsidy regulation or investment in such areas would be good.
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@Canibo I had once written posts about this: Nuclear energy and coal energy are only so cheap because they are extremely subsidized... And of course indirect subsidies are added, such as the risk with nuclear power plants. The state pays for the nuclear waste, is responsible for the disposal and bears the risk for a GAU and the demolition of the power plant.
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Can recommend the book "Asia 2030". We often think too "small", just look at something like China... 1.4 billion people, maybe you just have to proceed with more control... and not only 1.5 years after the elections discuss who has what to say at the top 😅😂
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Nice to read. To be honest, I think it's great to read the views of the "younger" generation here. But the topic is difficult, the economy can not solve everything, the economy evaluates and solves more according to efficiency and economy. There will have to be interventions or regulations so that something moves or incentives are created, the current misguided path by a general prohibition architecture and the ambivalence of the Greens will not solve the issue. Happy Easter and greetings from Tel Aviv😊
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A far-sightedness that many in your generation, but also in my generation (mid-20s), lack. The sometimes polemically radical behavior on this topic is slowly "splitting" not only our society in private, but also the economy and politics (see combustion vs. electric) towards extremes. Unfortunately, solution 1 is being pursued until further notice, at least it seems so. On the one hand, presumably, in order to be able to justify previous investments and, on the other hand, in order to be able to enforce personal "ideologies" (yes, I know, a bit exaggerated). No matter what it costs. This also ignores, as you said, the environmental and economic benefits. However, I do not see only the generations per sé in the blame, but also the education and the education system, as well as the media. During my school days, I would claim, teachers were at least concerned about neutrality.
At the university it already looked different and in the job (large daily newspaper, dual study) even more. And meanwhile it also looks different at (primary) schools, which I experience through my siblings. If one is influenced by everyday trust and role models (and that is teachers now times) and this influence coincides with the media, then one can give the children themselves only a small degree of blame for what they do and choose as young adults. A possibly very critical and debatable position, but it is mine. 😄 I still have hope that by the next election period we will gain more foresight and understand the economic consequences of "environmental extremism". The environment and its protection are a priority, that's clear, but the goals have to be affordable and actually sustainable and not just meet an ideological principle. Final word: Kudos for such a strong economic understanding at such a young age.
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@oliverplass Climate protection is a mindset. I don't want to leave my trash to my daughter. The only parallel to the monetary system is that I don't want my daughter to have debts that my generation created. This mindset shift is definitely something bitcoin can't do, that needs to get into people's heads.
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