9Mon·

$BTC (+0.12%)
ETFs vs. $965515 (+0.08%)
ETFs

The Bitcoin Spot ETFs have already generated more than 20 billion dollars inflows. That is more than the gold ETFs received after 10 years. That's crazy🤯

17 Comments

Pope Donkey XXI@DonkeyInvestor

9Mon

ETFs weren't hip back then either. Buying gold directly was already easier back then than buying Bitcoin is today. And it still doesn't affect the Bitcoin price

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Ph1l1pp@Ph1l1pp

8Mon

@DonkeyInvestor the ETF inflow does not affect the Bitcoin price?

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Stefan21@stefan_21

8Mon

@DonkeyInvestor If I remember correctly, the first gold spot ETF should have been launched in 2004. So we are talking here about 2004 - 2014.
I don't think ETFs were "hip" in that period, at least not in recent years :)
This does influence the price - but only indirectly or with a very long delay.

Of course it's OTC, but there are still insane amounts of Bitcoin that are bought up and are no longer available to others.

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Pope Donkey XXI@DonkeyInvestor

8Mon

@Ph1l1pp Just look at the price. For the amount that has flowed into it, the BTC price should have flown from one ATH to the next.

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Pope Donkey XXI@DonkeyInvestor

8Mon

@stefan_21 the pleading inflation adjustment is also a good argument. It remains as it is, chart-wise the ETFs are disappointing for me. But at least 1 BTC is still 1 BTC

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Stefan21@stefan_21

8Mon

@DonkeyInvestor The ETFs are a huge success for me. The first pension funds have already bought Bitcoin via the ETFs - that alone is a great success after such a short time.
The chart is disappointing in this respect - I fully agree. If all this had been bought on the spot market, we would have flown to the moon.
On the one hand, Bitcoin was bought OTC - on the other hand, most of the outflows were sold on the spot market. Bitcoin worth just over 20 billion dollars has also flowed out of the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust. Of course, if this is then sold spot, that also explains why we are not yet on the moon😂
At some point, however, the OTC stocks should also schrumpfen🤷‍♂️
Regardless of this, the ETFs will still have an effect on the price - at least in the medium term :)

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DonaldTruck@DonaldTruck

9Mon

Spoilsport info: Not adjusted for inflation 😜😂

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Stefan21@stefan_21

8Mon

@DerBofrostmann that is already clear :)
Nevertheless, the 20 billion inflows are crazy. After all, it's the best ETF launch in the history of ETFs🤷‍♂️

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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024

8Mon

Can you say roughly which ETF providers are the main beneficiaries here?

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Stefan21@stefan_21

8Mon

@Tenbagger2024 Blackrock und Fidelity :)

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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024

8Mon

@stefan_21
I hope $DEFI
also benefits from this.

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Pope Donkey XXI@DonkeyInvestor

8Mon

@Tenbagger2024 ask @GoDividend

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Dividende > Zinsen@GoDividend

8Mon

@DonkeyInvestor black stone

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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024

8Mon

@GoDividend
What does black stone mean 🙈

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Dividende > Zinsen@GoDividend

8Mon

@Tenbagger2024 black Rock 😅

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Harald@Madhatter5566

8Mon

Why should you hold gold via etf? All the disadvantages that you don't really want to have with gold.

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Stefan21@stefan_21

8Mon

@Madhatter5566 Yes, the same as with Bitcoin. The only problem is that institutions don't want to take care of the safekeeping - for gold as for Bitcoin

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