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𝔾𝕂𝕍 𝕎𝕖𝕔𝕙𝕤𝕖𝕝

So that besides the fiftieth crying post to the dip.


𝐭𝐥;𝐝𝐫: more net, no cost, no risk.

Benefit catalog for SHI basically the same, deviations of additional benefits.


𝐙𝐮 𝐰𝐞𝐥𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐊𝐚𝐬𝐬𝐞 𝐰𝐞𝐜𝐡𝐬𝐞𝐥𝐧?

Bavaria: BKK Faber-Castell

Rhineland-Palatinate: BKK PFAFF

Hamburg, North Rhine-Westphalia: BKK EUREGIO

Other federal states: hkk

Only measured by the additional contribution.


𝖠𝗎𝖿𝗐𝖺𝗇𝖽 / 𝖪𝗈𝗌𝗍𝖾𝗇 𝖿ü𝗋 𝖽𝖾𝗇 𝖶𝖾𝖼𝗁𝗌𝖾𝗅

There is no cost to make the switch. You will need a photo, which the new cash register will need for the card. At least in my experience, a slightly older photo will do, after all, it's just a cash register ID and not your passport. In terms of time, everything is done in under an hour.


𝖠𝖼𝗁𝗍𝗎𝗇𝗀

If you have ongoing treatments whose approval is based on individual case decisions, such as rehab or psychotherapy, then the expense may be higher. The new insurance company must agree to cover the costs again.


𝖠𝖻𝗅𝖺𝗎𝖿 𝖽𝖾𝗌 𝖶𝖾𝖼𝗁𝗌𝖾𝗅𝗌

You only need to register with the new insurance company, which will then take care of the cancellation with the old insurance company. The notice period for the change is 2 months. In the event of a premium increase, you have a special right of termination, so that the new fund can take this into account, you should indicate this in the application process. The regular minimum period is 12 months. There is also an immediate right of choice in some special cases, such as a change of employer or a change from family insurance to self-insurance. Here you have 14 days to change the insurance company.


Company-based health insurance funds

There are 27 closed health insurance companies. You cannot join a new fund if you do not have an employment contract with the associated company. As far as I know, there is no advantage in treatment, by the doctors. You are in the same way in the GKV. A doctor who has $ in his eyes considers you just as dirt, as anyone else in the GKV. Apart from the voluntary extra services, which go beyond the catalog, you have no advantages. It is important to know, however, that you can take your insurance with you when you change employers.


𝗘𝗶𝗴𝗲𝗻𝗲 𝗘𝗿𝗳𝗮𝗵𝗿𝘂𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗶𝘁 𝗵𝗸𝗸

I myself have been with hkk for some time and will continue to stay there. Through the dentnet [1] you can get one free PZR per year and through the bonus program you can get money back again. [2]


Reflink

Who wants to register with the hkk: https://www.hkk.de/mitglied-werden/aufnahmeantrag-1/?kwk=026182245765


[1] https://www.dentnet.de/krankenkassen/

[2] https://www.hkk.de/leistungen-und-services/hkk-vorteile/geldwerte-vorteile/bonusprogramm-2022

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BKK Firmus very satisfied
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@GoDividend Is the one behind the hkk (so from the costs) or?
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@Europoor I don't know that at all. 0.84% additional contribution
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@GoDividend Yes is the second cheapest.
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@Europoor works great everything via app etc.. We took then because there is a lot of bonus and additional benefits for families... It just fits every life situation another KK 🙏
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@GoDividend The application went out last week
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@Herdd damn all without reflink 😂
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@GoDividend that something like that still works nowadays xD
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@Herdd incredible.. But nice... But I have equal times in the app of Firmus asked for a reflink, that can not be 😂 the last program was 2015 of those there was 20€, which is already almost a savings plan 😂😂😂😂
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@GoDividend I'm there too. Mainly because of the additional contribution and professional dental cleaning. App could be better
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@DonkeyInvestor that could pretty much any app 😅 but really faster customer service I find. Let's see when they respond to the reflink message😂🤫
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I like so everyday tips save money, etc.. Could @Kundenservice wake up its own section... "more money to invest" !!!!!
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I am also with the Hkk but unfortunately they had to increase the contributions.
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@MiIliardenmehling Yes, but they are still very inexpensive compared to other products.
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@Europoor yes, but unfortunately I am an existing customer.
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@MiIliardenmehling have changed last year to HKK, the letter recently with the increase I have not even read through 🙈😅
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So, and now a PKV GKV comparison. I've been thinking about switching for a few years now and then, but my calculations always show (especially when I retire early) that I'm better off with the GKV. But you're smarter, so go ahead 😘
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Is someone here at the BKK Faber Castell & Partner, I'm thinking of changing and since members canvass 20 euros for canvassing (you then share the 50%) has then the recruiter and the changing something of it :) Currently I'm "still" with the hkk, but since it has announced so close to the end of the month the increase in the additional contribution, I'm considering a change.
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Attention, in the case of individual decisions, the Fund is not bound by the decision of the previous Fund. This is only a supplement. Otherwise, it is also worthwhile to pay attention to what special contracts the health insurance companies have with the surrounding treatment providers, hospitals, etc., there are significant differences. Especially in comparison of small BKK's to million large health insurance companies.
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@Aktienmanie That's what I meant by agreeing to pay the costs again. Did I not write that well?
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@Europoor That's fine, but the likelihood of renewed approval is probably zero in the case of individual decisions, so that you have to start all over again and possibly file lawsuits until something happens.
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@Aktienmanie Of course, there is a risk, but fortunately it was easy in my case.
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Regardless of the GKV, the most effective savings as an employee is to leave the church. If you are voluntarily insured (high income), the premium adjustments are peanuts.
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I'm also with the hkk, because it is the cheapest and the additional services are good (dental cleaning and so on) - although I was previously with the TKK and found the "smarter". It was super digital and also that you could collect bonus points with step counters was mega cool. That's rather annoying with the hkk. If the TKK had included the dental cleaning, I might have even stayed there.
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@DieFinanzchaotin I'm also with the TKK. for me, the decisive factor used to be that they pay for all the vaccinations against tropical diseases, even if I only travel privately and for fun. but honestly don't know how it is today, whether other health insurance companies also pay for that in the meantime.
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@n_albo Today, the others also pay for it. With the Hkk e.g. also no problem more. You just have to compare at check24. :) Hkk offers in some points actually even n significantly better offer than the TKK. I also travel a lot and the vaccinations are therefore essential for me.
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@DieFinanzchaotin then we are already two who find something essential :) I have the dental cleaning paid by the TK via the bonus program :D
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@n_albo Yes, but when I consider that I also have the bonus program with hkk, it's just not worth it as much for me with tkk.
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Can also recommend the SBK. Up to €350 every year if you don't use certain services. These are rather unusual services that a reasonably healthy person will not need :)
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@SharkAce However, the additional contribution is twice as high as with the hkk.
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@Europoor The question is whether the 0.61% is higher than €350 a year for you :D Especially as it shouldn't just be based on the costs.
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@SharkAce Joar well for me the costs are in the foreground. From my point of view, all health insurance companies are the same.
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@Europoor They actually differ in some respects but are often quite opaque. Even if an additional benefit is advertised, it is often tied to some kind of criteria haha
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@monchella no, not Siemens 😂 but SBK actually works closely with the company where I work haha
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@monchella was? So were you rather dissatisfied or did you simply switch?
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@monchella yes, but even such small differences make a difference in the long run😅

But for now I'm glad that it's not because of the sbk hahah
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You pay money for something like this? [present the matching meme here]

Free medical care 💸
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@DiFigiANo You can only get this free of charge if you are insured through your parents or spouse or receive social benefits.
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I meant that because I'm in the federal government, I have free military welfare and don't have to pay into a health insurance fund
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@DiFigiANo Oh, I hadn't thought of that, nice.
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the cheapest health insurance fund at the moment is BKK farber Castell as far as I know and just behind it is hkk.
I am with the hkk but am considering switching to BKK farber Castell
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@LangM90 As mentioned above, you can only go to Castell if you live in Bavaria.
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@Europoor yes i live in bavaria
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Don't you find it problematic if there is no office with a contact person from your KV in the vicinity or is that relatively "indifferent" to you?
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@LangM90 Why do you need it?
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@Europoor Yes, you don't need it if you're healthy anyway.
But there may be some serious case that you don't want to deal with over the phone and then it would be good to have a personal contact person available.
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@LangM90 In times of Corona, you can't make appointments in person anyway and otherwise I clarify my matters by e-mail.
So I'm annoyed that AOK Nordost still prefers to write a letter instead of replying to my email...

You don't really have a proper personal clerk at any statutory health insurance company any more. In other words, you can't build up a "relationship" with these people.
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@Staatsmann that means you would not switch to BKK farber Castell in this case if you were not already with hkk? The contribution is only 0.4% cheaper at BKK Farber Castell.
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@LangM90 If you live in the Castell area, I would switch there. It's not possible outside of Bavaria anyway.
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@LangM90 I compare the price-performance ratio for the things that are important to me.

Anyone who demands absurd additional premiums without providing more service will be thrown out.

As I come from a family where cancer often broke out at a young age, cancer screening is important to me even before the usual age ranges.

As a high-risk group, BKK offers me colon cancer screening from the age of 25 or 30.
Others only from 35 or 40.
It's similar with skin cancer.

That's why I'll soon be switching from AOK Nordost to BKK.

So you should compare according to your wishes and then choose something.
After all, I don't know your medical records or your state of health and what you value. :)

For example, I don't attach any importance to local offices, as I prefer to clarify everything by email or telephone. An email address where you can get answers is enough for me.
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@Staatsmann So I can't find that at the BKK now? Where exactly did you find this or read that they offer it?
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@LangM90 I compared at CHECK24 and there were a few things. :)

I found out the rest by sending an email to BKK.
Always with the information that certain conditions have to be met, but that they generally offer it.
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@Staatsmann acsho because it's not on the homepage.🤔
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@LangM90 many of my friends / acquaintances ask the same question when it comes to banks. i myself have never made an appointment at a bank counter. as far as i'm concerned, the banks can close their branches completely :D
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So, what exactly do you think of the Bavarian civil servants' health insurance fund? Is it worth switching there too? 👍
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@TechMax I have no idea about private health insurance.
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@Europoor Me neither 😭
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