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Edit: insolvent https://app.getquin.com/activity/UanzHbzDhK


Maybe ๐๐ข๐ž ๐งรค๐œ๐ก๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž ๐’๐š๐ฎ ๐๐ข๐ž will be ๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐œ๐ก ๐’๐จ๐œ๐ข๐š๐ฅ ๐Œ๐ž๐๐ข๐š ๐ ๐ž๐ญ๐ซ๐ข๐ž๐›๐ž๐ง by finfluencers: ๐™‘๐™–๐™ฃ๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™  ๐˜พ๐™–๐™ง๐™™. So you know the stuff if you see it.


Whether promos are running for the card yet, no idea. But I wouldn't be surprised if something like that comes. Probably then with ingenious slogans like "when shopping for the age provide". Their ๐– ๐–ฟ๐–ฟ๐—‚๐—…๐—‚๐–บ๐—๐–พ ๐–ฏ๐—‹๐—ˆ๐—€๐—‹๐–บ๐—†๐—† ๐—‚๐—Œ๐— ๐—‚๐—† ๐–ฃ๐–พ๐—“๐–พ๐—†๐–ป๐–พ๐—‹ ๐—€๐–พ๐—Œ๐—๐–บ๐—‹๐—๐–พ๐— so it's probably only a matter of time before the stuff hits somewhere.


The ๐Š๐จ๐ง๐ณ๐ž๐ฉ๐ญ is as simple as it is stupid, you get ๐ž๐ญ๐ฐ๐š๐ฌ ๐ ๐ž๐ฌ๐œ๐ก๐ž๐ง๐ค๐ญ that you get ๐ ๐ฅ๐ž๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐ฐ๐ข๐ž๐๐ž๐ซ ๐ฐ๐ž๐ ๐ ๐ž๐ง๐จ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ž๐ง.


Vantik promises 1% cash back on all purchases, which is then invested for retirement. Now you don't need to be a math genius to work out that with usual sales, 1% doesn't come out to much. No matter.


How is the money invested? It ends up in a fund and can only be paid out at the age of 55 or at the start of a pension. Either as a lump sum or as a conversion into a monthly pension. ๐๐ž๐ข ๐Šรผ๐ง๐๐ข๐ ๐ฎ๐ง๐  ๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ๐Ÿรค๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ญ ๐๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐ง๐ฌ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ฎ๐œ๐ก ๐š๐ฎ๐Ÿ ๐๐ข๐ž ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ž๐ฌ๐š๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ž๐ฅ๐ญ๐ž๐ง ๐๐ž๐ญ๐ซรค๐ ๐ž.


In addition, the customer has the option to invest directly in the fund. These contributions can be withdrawn at any time.


For whom the concept does not yet add up. Fooling people into thinking you are giving them ~1% while taking it back in fund fees. Even though the fund itself only invests in ETF. Then collect even more money from the new clients directly, more assets under management, thus more fees, thus fatter salary.


Frank Thelen would open his pants, because scaled.


Congratulations to anyone who has read this far. Secret code for the comments: I'm smart and make my own provisions for old age. A few more details. The stuff is special assets, so if the custodian BNP or Vantik are gone the money is not gone. There is also somehow a foundation that gets 1% of the deposits and thus should somehow form a safety buffer. Because spooky scary stock market could crash 1 day before retirement. Then you get to submit a begging letter to the foundation. "Beneficiaries may apply for a financial contribution in writing to the Vantik Foundation using the "Foundation Contribution Application" form." [1]


For those who want it very detailed, the cap for debit cards is 0.2%, so there is a 0.8% "gift". 0.9% TER goes away in the fund, the difference from the fund to the ETF in the fund is about 0.6%. In addition, there is still the 1% for the foundation. Likewise, especially with a later conversion into a monthly pension, not insignificant money should remain.


No recommendation link, because stupid: https://vantik.com/


[1] https://assets.website-files.com/5ebb1222c39f120c8a51b3b6/5f7335e8c605cb79a9eea66b_Satzung%20Vantik%20Stiftung.pdf

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I'm smart and make my own provisions for old age.
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@DonkeyInvestor Donkeys are very smart animals <3
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I don't say it often, but "Aaaaaalter!" ๐Ÿ˜–@ccf
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@InvestmentPapa I mean, from the fund provider's point of view, the product is ingenious. It attracts more money and more customers to the fund and binds them to it. The percentages are certainly not enormous compared to conventional active funds, but then the masses do it.
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Don't you dare come back with a new map @SharkAce @leveragegrinding @getquin
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@Lorena ne do not trust them with my money until retirement. So stupid are only the other two Have there but still a TR Ref Link for you๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿ˜‚
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@SharkAce "There GiBtS nE MeTaLKaRtE ๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿ˜ตโ€๐Ÿ’ซ"
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@Lorena "PrEmIuM iS CoStEnLoS" ๐Ÿ˜ตโ€๐Ÿ’ซ
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@SharkAce jaaaa I know, send me the please again ๐Ÿ˜‚
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@Lorena Icu help where I can๐Ÿ‘€ https://ref.trade.re/zx3x6vhc
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I basically like things where you "get" something for your consumer spending. But the system is aimed solely at the fact that a large part does not come into the enjoyment of the saved money. So thank you for opening my eyes. How many customers will hold out until the experience and not cancel before. It's almost like with vouchers... Half will never be redeemed. Cash money for the publishers
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@GoDividend What is also unclear to me, what happens if one dies? Can the heir be paid out directly or does he have to wait until 55?
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@Europoor think then can write on the tombstone I had this card... There is so and so much money on it but that brings now no one... So if you do not like your relatives then you do that
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There are too many business people in the world
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Where can I invest in the company? Sounds like suck but make safe many and they are then lifelong customer...
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@leveragegrinding Don't know how well the foundation pays, maybe there's still a spot available with them.
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I am smart and make my own provisions for old age. @ccf
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@Koenigmidas Thanks for reading :)
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I am smart and provide for my own old age ๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿผ man of honor that you open people's eyes that there is nothing free.@ccf
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@ProjectTenbagger Joar somehow you always pay. With the Payback and Amazon card, for example, via data and with Crypto com via the use of CRO.
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@Europoor is also the issue with credit with negative interest. 1000โ‚ฌ at -0.5%. That means with a term of usually maximum two years I get 100 โ‚ฌ free. If a company would have to buy the data that I give here for 100 โ‚ฌ, it would have to put about 160-200 โ‚ฌ on the table. I've read a detailed study here. The bottom line is that you give away your data for half as much as it's worth. Actually, it's a stupid deal๏ฟผ ๐Ÿค”.
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@ProjectTenbagger Especially since the data gives out without getting the loan. Most portals collect the user data first and then reject you for this offer condition and give you a normal interest rate.
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I'm smart and provide for my own old age - with Vivid Cashback!!!@Frank_Thelen - do you have anything to add? "Frank Thelen would unzip his pants because scaled."
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@CryptoPfand He is certainly busy finding new girls to follow.
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Imagine keeping an account for 50 years and then collecting the 1 percent interest ๐Ÿ˜….... Really ridiculous concept, but it works out. A lot of people have signed up there lately.
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@SalzStengel User numbers I do not know, the UI looked rather basic, from what I had seen so. In Dec. but already emails were sent that you should invite your friends for a premium. Since the next step would be to also go to influencers for me obvious. Maybe they still optimize their app before they roll out the big.
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I'm already looking forward to sorting out on Instagram ๐Ÿ˜
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It's just nice to receive on the side ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ
Otherwise you get 0% if you count classically, then I'd rather take 0.1% with me and be happy with 60 over 5000โ‚ฌ that might have come together.
You can also continue to use Payback and the like if you want rewards
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@MFMIrrgang It's not true that you only get 0%. Miles or cashback are only available immediately on some credit cards.
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