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Edit: insolvent https://app.getquin.com/activity/UanzHbzDhK


Maybe ๐๐ข๐ž ๐งรค๐œ๐ก๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž ๐’๐š๐ฎ ๐๐ข๐ž will be ๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐œ๐ก ๐’๐จ๐œ๐ข๐š๐ฅ ๐Œ๐ž๐๐ข๐š ๐ ๐ž๐ญ๐ซ๐ข๐ž๐›๐ž๐ง by finfluencers: ๐™‘๐™–๐™ฃ๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™  ๐˜พ๐™–๐™ง๐™™. So you know the stuff if you see it.


Whether promos are running for the card yet, no idea. But I wouldn't be surprised if something like that comes. Probably then with ingenious slogans like "when shopping for the age provide". Their ๐– ๐–ฟ๐–ฟ๐—‚๐—…๐—‚๐–บ๐—๐–พ ๐–ฏ๐—‹๐—ˆ๐—€๐—‹๐–บ๐—†๐—† ๐—‚๐—Œ๐— ๐—‚๐—† ๐–ฃ๐–พ๐—“๐–พ๐—†๐–ป๐–พ๐—‹ ๐—€๐–พ๐—Œ๐—๐–บ๐—‹๐—๐–พ๐— so it's probably only a matter of time before the stuff hits somewhere.


The ๐Š๐จ๐ง๐ณ๐ž๐ฉ๐ญ is as simple as it is stupid, you get ๐ž๐ญ๐ฐ๐š๐ฌ ๐ ๐ž๐ฌ๐œ๐ก๐ž๐ง๐ค๐ญ that you get ๐ ๐ฅ๐ž๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐ฐ๐ข๐ž๐๐ž๐ซ ๐ฐ๐ž๐ ๐ ๐ž๐ง๐จ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ž๐ง.


Vantik promises 1% cash back on all purchases, which is then invested for retirement. Now you don't need to be a math genius to work out that with usual sales, 1% doesn't come out to much. No matter.


How is the money invested? It ends up in a fund and can only be paid out at the age of 55 or at the start of a pension. Either as a lump sum or as a conversion into a monthly pension. ๐๐ž๐ข ๐Šรผ๐ง๐๐ข๐ ๐ฎ๐ง๐  ๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ๐Ÿรค๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ญ ๐๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐ง๐ฌ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ฎ๐œ๐ก ๐š๐ฎ๐Ÿ ๐๐ข๐ž ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ž๐ฌ๐š๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ž๐ฅ๐ญ๐ž๐ง ๐๐ž๐ญ๐ซรค๐ ๐ž.


In addition, the customer has the option to invest directly in the fund. These contributions can be withdrawn at any time.


For whom the concept does not yet add up. Fooling people into thinking you are giving them ~1% while taking it back in fund fees. Even though the fund itself only invests in ETF. Then collect even more money from the new clients directly, more assets under management, thus more fees, thus fatter salary.


Frank Thelen would open his pants, because scaled.


Congratulations to anyone who has read this far. Secret code for the comments: I'm smart and make my own provisions for old age. A few more details. The stuff is special assets, so if the custodian BNP or Vantik are gone the money is not gone. There is also somehow a foundation that gets 1% of the deposits and thus should somehow form a safety buffer. Because spooky scary stock market could crash 1 day before retirement. Then you get to submit a begging letter to the foundation. "Beneficiaries may apply for a financial contribution in writing to the Vantik Foundation using the "Foundation Contribution Application" form." [1]


For those who want it very detailed, the cap for debit cards is 0.2%, so there is a 0.8% "gift". 0.9% TER goes away in the fund, the difference from the fund to the ETF in the fund is about 0.6%. In addition, there is still the 1% for the foundation. Likewise, especially with a later conversion into a monthly pension, not insignificant money should remain.


No recommendation link, because stupid: https://vantik.com/


[1] https://assets.website-files.com/5ebb1222c39f120c8a51b3b6/5f7335e8c605cb79a9eea66b_Satzung%20Vantik%20Stiftung.pdf

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I'm smart and make my own provisions for old age.
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I don't say it often, but "Aaaaaalter!" ๐Ÿ˜–@ccf
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Don't you dare come back with a new map @SharkAce @leveragegrinding @getquin
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I basically like things where you "get" something for your consumer spending. But the system is aimed solely at the fact that a large part does not come into the enjoyment of the saved money. So thank you for opening my eyes. How many customers will hold out until the experience and not cancel before. It's almost like with vouchers... Half will never be redeemed. Cash money for the publishers
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There are too many business people in the world
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Where can I invest in the company? Sounds like suck but make safe many and they are then lifelong customer...
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I am smart and make my own provisions for old age. @ccf
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I am smart and provide for my own old age ๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿผ man of honor that you open people's eyes that there is nothing free.@ccf
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I'm smart and provide for my own old age - with Vivid Cashback!!!@Frank_Thelen - do you have anything to add? "Frank Thelen would unzip his pants because scaled."
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Imagine keeping an account for 50 years and then collecting the 1 percent interest ๐Ÿ˜….... Really ridiculous concept, but it works out. A lot of people have signed up there lately.
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