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Tunnel at the end of the tunnel? (Unfortunately no light)

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It's purely speculative, as both would first have to shake something completely new out of the pipeline in order to grow above the industry average again. Or am I missing some calculable potential?
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@DoppelSchlechtMinus I think both should recover from the setbacks. The figures are not bad. Find the
ab sale too strong. But don't take the exit
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