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Police data not in the hands of Palantir

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Lower Saxony's Minister of the Interior does not want to place police data in the hands of such a company. According to Palantir, data leakage is ruled out.


Palantir is a US company with opaque algorithms and questionable connections. Lower Saxony's Interior Minister Daniela Behrens (SPD) told the Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung. "For me, it is crucial that highly sensitive police data can end up in the hands of such a company."


In-house developments may take longer, "but they strengthen trust in the police", said Behrens.


In response to an inquiry from the German press agency dpa, Bremen stated that there is no legal basis in the police law for the use of the system to avert danger. Interior Senator Ulrich Mäurer (SPD) referred to a resolution by the Conference of Interior Ministers to further strengthen internal security and strive for digital sovereignty in Europe. AI-supported data analysis is "indispensable for our internal security", including in Bremen.


Meanwhile, Palantir rejected accusations that there is a lack of data security. "A transfer or outflow of data - for example to the USA - is technically impossible," a company spokesperson told dpa. In Bavaria, North Rhine-Westphalia and Hesse, where the police use Palantir programs, the software is operated "exclusively" on police servers.


Palantir: radio cell queries and social media

The Gotham Palantir police and intelligence software combines data sources, which is highly controversial. Calvin Baus, spokesman for the Chaos Computer Club (CCC), said: "The software merges data on a large scale. This means that if I call the police to report an accident or make a statement as a witness, I will forever be considered a suspect in Palantir's software." Radio cell queries, for example, are also used as a source if people are "simply in the wrong place at the wrong time".


It is also possible to link information from social networks, but the CCC has no information about the specific deployment. And whether the police would disclose such an operation is questionable, according to insiders.


https://www.golem.de/news/innenministerin-polizeidaten-nicht-in-die-haende-von-palantir-2508-198998.html

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I go along with that 👍
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The "citizen" would be the first to grumble if the state had paid another company 100% more, but their output was not even 15% of Palantir's product. That's how it looks. There is no competition to Palantir anywhere in the world. Incidentally, there is never any data outside the federal state.
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@bull_investor_vkmhk That may be, but you are still dependent on the "opponent's" software. Without software, the data on the servers won't do you any good either 🙏.

The question is, why don't they have any competition?

A regional product would certainly be more expensive because you would have to develop it first. If you don't want that, then you become more and more dependent.
See the issue of gas from Russia. They were so dependent that turning off one tap brought the German economy to its knees... 💩
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@MoneyISnotREAL
With 🍊 you never know what he'll come up with.
First he blackmails us with tariffs and in the end it's the software.
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@MoneyISnotREAL This is not entirely correct, as the data is already available on the servers. Palantir is only supposed to merge, analyze and recognize correlations. All data is stored on police servers, but these do not contain any data on persons who are not relevant to the police. I seriously don't understand the problem. How many people use Facebook, WhatsApp, Insta etc.🤷🏼‍♂️ No one cares what happens to the data... there is a sensible use case here that is intended to make it easier to fight crime (and yes, that is still the main task of the police)...
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The state and the police always advise citizens to be very careful when passing on data.
And what does the state do with our data 🙈😂
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@Tenbagger2024 nothing, anyone who is seriously involved with Palantir would know that it is geared towards the customer and that hosting for governments / authorities is actually always done on site.
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No, please, give all your data to the Americans so that us, shareholders, can make money
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Why is there no German / European software for such critical areas?

They want to become more and more independent of the USA, telling consumers to rely on regional and national companies. The state, on the other hand, does exactly the opposite 💩

With the best will in the world, I can't imagine that we don't have a company in Germany that can also offer similar processes/analyses/data management as software. If not, it is certainly made more difficult by regulations (data protection, ...) and not wanted by our politicians. For something like this, we would have to put our money where our mouth is - drive innovation/development - instead of looking on and becoming dependent on others again.

Especially if - for whatever reason - something does happen one day, $PLTR could certainly deactivate the software and you are left in the dark.
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@MoneyISnotREAL quite simply, if we (Europe) think and make guidelines about how crooked a cucumber can be, complex things will never be an issue. we are hindering ourselves in Europe and every average criminal is happy!!!!
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In the end, no one can guarantee what will happen to the data, even if it is stored on European servers:
https://www.heise.de/news/Nicht-souveraen-Microsoft-kann-Sicherheit-von-EU-Daten-nicht-garantieren-10494684.html
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@randomdude unless you use a European cloud provider, e.g. Ionos
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