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$LLY (+2,71%)
$NOVO B (+2,39%)
$NVO (+2,1%)


Das pillenbasierte Abnehmmittel von $LLY (+2,71%) zeigt deutlich schlechtere Ergebnisse als das pillenbasierte Abnehmmittel von $NOVO B (+2,39%) (beide in Studien) – siehe Vergleich unten:


Novo führt als erste Abnehmpille:

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Eli Lilly's Results Fell Slightly Below Expectations

While orforglipron helped patients lose around 12% of their body weight, analysts were expecting closer to 15%. That means:


The pill is promising, but not clearly superior to Novo’s Wegovy, which offers comparable or better results.


This could ease investor concerns that Eli Lilly would quickly dominate or disrupt the market.


2. Side Effects & Discontinuation Rates Raised Concerns

The discontinuation rate on the highest dose of orforglipron was 10.3%, and overall dropout was close to 25%, which is higher than for injectable GLP-1s like Wegovy (around 7%).


This makes Novo’s products look more tolerable and clinically more stable in comparison.


3. Time Advantage for Novo Nordisk

Eli Lilly doesn’t plan to launch the pill until 2026, so there is no immediate competitive threat to Wegovy.


Novo Nordisk already has market dominance with Wegovy and Rybelsus (an oral GLP-1 for diabetes), giving it a strong head start.


4. Market Expansion Narrative

Investors often interpret positive data from a rival as a sign that the entire GLP-1 category is strong and expanding.


If Lilly’s pill works and gets approved, it validates the GLP-1 space further.


This strengthens the long-term outlook for Novo Nordisk as a major player in that market.


5. Speculation About Novo’s Own Oral GLP-1 Development

Investors may believe Novo has room to improve or accelerate its own oral GLP-1 pipeline.


The race for oral treatments is far from over, and Novo is still a top contender with deep experience in the GLP-1 space.


Summary

Novo Nordisk stock is likely up because:


Eli Lilly’s results were strong but not better than expected.


There were tolerability concerns with Lilly’s pill.


Novo still has the lead in market and product availability.


The data boosts confidence in the entire GLP-1 market.

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24 Comentários

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Ah, that's why $NOVO B is rising.
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@Semos25 Exactly, it can happen that quickly, let's wait and see if it holds up. It was clear that they had the pill out before $LLY and the bad results are now apparently changing everything again ? 😂 Really a theater
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@BamBamInvest As I say, the stock market is full of surprises. Things always turn out differently than you think. Somehow I'm beginning to understand the 'buy and hold' strategy better.
Let's see what happens when Wall Street opens.
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@BamBamInvest although Eli was much better at Earnings and is much more broadly based. I would definitely prefer Eli.
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@Konstantin85 I don't think so at this level. $NOVO B has a lot in the pipeline and they won't let go of their global market leadership so quickly. Existing customers won't switch so quickly if they have a product that works and they tolerate it well. Apart from that, taking pills is easier and more convenient than injections. This is where $LLY has to keep up.
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@BamBamInvest 2x lowered profit forecast, CEO without US experience, expired patents, the cooperation with Hims and now several lawsuits against Compounder show me personally a very bad company at the moment. Eli's figures were great. The pill itself is also totally overrated and will not give Novo a boost. Eli, on the other hand, is much more broadly positioned and has better access to the US market.
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@Konstantin85 all good arguments, but some patents still go until 2031 and are no longer relevant because the successor products will already be out by then, but for me the entry at $NOVO B offers a better risk/reward ratio. It also makes sense for the new CEPO to go lower, as it can then blame its predecessors and I bet you that they will easily outperform them. I also believe that the situation will look completely different in 2-3 years. We'll see, but they have so much in the pipeline and won't stop researching, they'll have the first mover advantage with the pills. But yes, I'm more in the team here anyway $HIMS which I've held for over 3 years ✌️
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This shows NovoNordisc that the competition is only boiling with water and that some of the fears of the last few days were exaggerated.
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@Irondoc Well, it shouldn't really change anything for those who spread the doomsday mood. 🤣 They don't have a moat and are no longer growing, were the words 😁. It shouldn't change anything for those people. Let's see if it can last. It was clear that they had the pill advantage, many just forgot. The bad results are likely to change everything again ☺️
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When are the comments like: I'll only buy at €30, €20 or €10?
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@Spacepanda so don't be unsettled, think fundamentally long-term, 1 piece of news and everything changes again ? I wonder how people value the company. Wait and see whether it can be maintained, because it doesn't really change the overall situation. It was clear anyway that they would release the pills earlier, many people had just forgotten.
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The market is not normal, down 12% for one and up 12% for the other😅only 35% down🥸😅
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One man's sorrow is another man's joy 😂🚀
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@Aktienhauptmeister I hesitated too long because I didn't know what to sell, let's see if it holds up 😂
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@BamBamInvest also had to sell $NU & $3350 to have enough capital to top up $NOVO B 😂
You can still get in, my dear 😂 is still attractive 💪
Yes, it may well be that tomorrow everything goes in the other direction again 🔄
At the moment, the market is generally reacting a bit too sensitively, it feels like everything is rising and falling by double digits no matter how good or bad the figures are 🫨
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@Aktienhauptmeister Yes, that's right, the price hasn't run away yet and I don't think it can be maintained to this extent. But that doesn't change the fact that I don't know what to sell. I believe that everything in my portfolio will perform the same or better over the next 3 years.
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@BamBamInvest I know it too well 😂 take some profits from everyone 😝(except Sofi😂) You've already sold $SBET and $3350 as I see👀. Maybe it's enough for an entry 🤷🏼‍♂️😬
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@Aktienhauptmeister For $SBET and $3350 I had topped up $LMND and $BMNR at the right time as things stand now 😂 Lemonade has increased by almost 40% since then and $BMNR by 20%
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@Aktienhauptmeister $3350 I wanted to get back in but thought they would go a little lower to support but the $BTC price has risen again slightly and is supporting . I then wanted to collect more at 4-5 euros
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This is absolute cinema 😁🍿
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I think Novo nordisk has one of the best risk/reward ratios right now...pharma will always need it and the company is well positioned for the long term and is now extremely favorably valued...of course there are always risks, but what stock isn't?
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The sector remains exciting.
Let's see when Roche or someone else comes onto the market with a better product.
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Super result. Let's hope they defend it!
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I'm curious, they're about to report figures too 🙈😂
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