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Great opportunities at Bayer?

$BAYN (+0,74%) Good evening everyone, I would like to share my thoughts on Bayer here, as there hasn't been a proper post about it recently.


Basically, of course, the Monsanto chains are still on Bayer, and quite firmly at that.


Current legal situation:

The US Supreme Court is now involving the Attorney General and is considering Bayer's appeal in a key case (Durnell) as the company tries to assert federal preemption .

In parallel, a settlement is being sought in Missouri. If that fails, Bayer is considering filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection for the Monsanto subsidiary - to consolidate current and future lawsuits - according to the WSJ.


Consequences:

Supreme Court decision on appeal (esp. Durnell case): positive would be federal protection from state lawsuits.

Missouri settlement: if achieved, it could break waves - if not, Chapter 11 looms.


Bayer internal:

Bayer is working on a glyphosate substitute and wants to launch a new, less controversial herbicide formulation on the market as early as 2028.

CEO Bill Anderson does not plan to spin off the agricultural division - instead, a new organizational model is to be established that decentralizes decision-making processes and makes them flatter.

For Monsanto as an independent brand, there is currently no longer an operating unit The brand was integrated in 2018, but the legal intention is to use it specifically in the event of insolvency (Chapter 11 of the US subsidiary) in order to bundle liabilities there and remain in the parent company outside of insolvency.


I would therefore assume, based on the analysts' stance, that Bayer will most likely be able to close the deal with Monsanto in the course of 2026. Either through a final, national settlement or through insolvency of the subsidiary.

Consequently, it is forecast that Bayer could and would pay a dividend of between EUR 1 and EUR 2 again in 2027.

UBS assumes that Bayer will pay a dividend of EUR 2 to 3 again in 2030 and that the share price will have recovered strongly by then.

This would mean a dividend yield of around 10% on today's capital employed.


One must not forget that the machinery behind bayer is still running very well, they are still making billions in sales. Of course, this is overshadowed by the debt. Nevertheless, the company is not functioning well and, in my opinion, also has a good pipeline. Especially with the first approvals in the USA this week, this is a good opportunity, as approvals in the EU and China will then become easier.


So if Monsanto were to be shelved, that would be a great opportunity.

If not, and Bayer were to spin off and file for bankruptcy for the spin-off, it would also be a great opportunity, as Bayer is still doing very well.


But why is the stock not yet priced in like this?

Fear of the management. It is conceivable that a national settlement will be reached in the USA, with far too high costs, which Bayer will nevertheless accept for image reasons and take on much more debt, to a disproportionate extent, instead of letting a subsidiary go bankrupt. I see this as the biggest fear at the moment.


  • Nevertheless, I think Bayer has excellent opportunities over the next three years, which is why I filled my position today.
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Opportunities or not, why bayer instead of betting on a pharma company that is more stable and generates more returns, such as $LLY $NOVO B $JNJ and co?
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@Investingyoung because Bayer is reyab backwards and that is Uzbek and means king. So you are king. 👑 Follow me for more awesome wisdom
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@Investingyoung Because with Bayer, as with Thyssenkrupp before it, all the horror scenarios are now priced in. I have already had great experiences with 300%. There is almost no reaction to bad news. The share price just waits for the good news. And then it starts 🚀😄
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@Investingyoung because $LLY and $NOVO B are really too expensive for me at the moment.
$JNJ is an argument, but you also want to diversify.

Especially as Bayer will outperform on good news.
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@plaul Novo? Too expensive?
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@Investingyoung more "not as cheap as Bayer"
But yes, you're right, Novo has potential.
But I'm still waiting for a bottom, or a P/E ratio below 14.
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@plaul waiting on the ground smart thing, me too with additional purchases
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@Investingyoung Oh yes, $NOVO B is also super stable......🙈
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@Cato_Bamboo have you been drinking varnish? 2300% in 20 years, high double-digit divi growth and an absolutely normal correction that has already occurred several times after a pump of several 100%.
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@Investingyoung Please always remain polite young Jedi Knight! And take a good look at the charts first. Novo has lost a good 55% in the last 12 months alone and is still in a downtrend. So there can be no question of a stable run!
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@Cato_Bamboo yes those at the top where there was a 44+ kgv have burnt their fingers, those who bought in between and recently took the profits have reduced their position again are in the +, I took 3 tranches myself, if it starts to go down I buy again in tranches, weighting my position higher again, but if it runs up like before, a part will be sold again. Basically I find + - 60 at novo favorable with the growth rates and patents in 5 years it will look different again. We'll see that in the results anyway. But it's just funny that the company is so hated but a tesla with 170 kgv is easily plugged in where not even profits are really available only speculation where the market is much more competitive. You can make money with anything, it depends on the strategy and how you approach it. Those who want to invest in novo for the long term should start with small positions and increase or exit depending on how things develop. The seebi back then could slide down my hump, I made my +25% return on 10k and that doesn't suit me for others. And with bayer I also got a return of just under 20% for the year. Conclusion if you buy something and have a strategy it doesn't matter what you buy you can make money with everything even with waste.
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Invested for 18 months, never again 🥵
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I agree, I bought a position at 19.90 this year and will hold it for the long term, provided the turnaround doesn't exceed my fair value in the upper range. A very similar situation could already be observed at Bayer in the not too distant past and even then the market was obviously surprised at how robustly the group had performed despite the legal disputes.
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