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"The problem with humanoid robots is their legs"

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@Charmin
@EpsEra
@Simpson

Hello my dears,

I have realized that future sectors are also an exciting topic for the community.

Even at the risk of annoying you with it, I would like to provide all interested parties with exciting reports in alternation and cooperation with the dear @EpsEra to provide exciting reports.

In order to be well informed as a small investor.

You can find the full article at ⬇️.


Here the comment of dear @Charmin is confirmed. In which he wrote that we are still a long way from the sensible use of humanoid robots in industry.


If there is a need for such information, please let me know 👍.


DHL's Head of Information Sally Miller relies on robots for warehouses. She sees great opportunities for improving logistics - but also still sees major hurdles.


WirtschaftsWoche: Ms. Miller, what do you think of humanoid robots?

Sally Miller: Not much. Humanoids cannot generate a meaningful return in our industrial environment, and yet they receive a lot of attention and venture capital money. The investment that goes into humanoid robots then goes into developing products that we could use commercially in our warehouses. Of course, I would like to see more work on products that we can use in our companies instead.


What do you have against robots on two legs?

Their biggest problem is those very legs. The batteries - which have a significant influence on the center of gravity - cannot be accommodated in a wider base low down on the robot, as is the case with the stretch robot from Boston Dynamic. Lighter, smaller batteries are needed. That's why batteries in humanoid robots only last a few hours. But our shifts last eight hours, usually in two or three shifts. Also, the whole focus on a robot being able to stand without falling over is a big waste from our point of view: You don't need legs in the warehouse. Wheels are much better suited. What bothers me the most is that these robots look "scary". That sounds trivial, but the most important thing for us is that our employees like working for us and with our technology. Humanoid robots are rather intimidating - that's what our employees tell us.


It would be the first area in which Elon Musk has invested massive amounts of money and received no return.

If I could buy a humanoid for 10,000 dollars to keep my house clean - that might be a use case. Loading and unloading the dishwasher, washing and folding laundry, vacuuming - that would be a home run. In the household, a robot on legs could rest and recharge itself again and again. And legs also make a lot more sense in a house with stairs, for example to go up to the second floor. Humanoids are good for the consumer market, but not for commercial applications in contract logistics.


How much of an advantage is the use of automation in logistics? The New York Times didn't call today's robots particularly revolutionary...

At our sites, human labor is by far the largest component that we manage. We are, and will remain, a people business. But people under 30 in particular like to work in an environment with modern technology. For example, we have fewer redundancies at sites where we use robots. To be more precise, we are talking about "co-bots" - collaborative robots - i.e. robots that work hand in hand with people. They make our employees' day-to-day work easier by reducing walking distances and relieving them of heavy, repetitive lifting. The potential applications are huge. We would like to see even more on the market. That's why we've signed a contract with Boston Dynamics: They are developing further functionalities for us for their Stretch robot...


...Stretch can already lift parcels out of a truck or container and place them on a conveyor belt. What else should it learn?

It could also be used for order picking, i.e. putting orders together. To do this, he needs to learn more specific gripping skills. Deutsche Post's sister division is also testing Stretch for use in the parcel business.


You can find the full article at ⬇️


https://www.wiwo.de/unternehmen/dienstleister/dhl-informationschefin-sally-miller-wir-verzeichnen-weniger-kuendigungen-an-standorten-wo-wir-roboter-einsetzen/100151330.html

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Very good report, thank you very much. I also think that the humanoid robot sector will be the next nail in the coffin for $TSLA. It will be a niche product for me.
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In my opinion, the topic of "humanoid" robots is also being overhyped.
Design for Pupose makes sense in this area, and there are enough useful applications in the industry.
PS: I'm currently in a hotel where the waiters are handing over the used dishes to robots positioned nearby, and as soon as they are fully loaded, they drive themselves to the kitchen or washing area. This saves the staff a lot of time and distance, which they can better spend with the customer.
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@TomTurboInvest
Thank you dear.
I once saw a report about Münster University Hospital. Almost everything there runs like this. And in the basement it's like a shunting yard.
I also think that moving robots make the most sense here.
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As always, valuable information. I don't see humanoids as a sensible addition to production either. Production robot systems are much more effective here.
However, I do see humanoids in the medical/care sector as an opportunity to support and improve the poor circumstances and working conditions of workers in the future.
In my opinion, however, this is a much smaller market than production.
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Zefix at 42 was the sell order.
The $DHL store is running perfectly internationally, only the share price is not 😭
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Non-humanoid robots have an extremely wide range of applications, especially in logistics.

Be it replacing forklift trucks in transporting pallets from A to B or fetching raw materials from the warehouse to bring them to production.

(Humanoid is also technically relatively complex. More realistic are quadrupedal (four-legged) robots or robots on roller conveyors. There you have fewer problems with balance and can also increase the tensile load with 4 drives. Exactly what is mentioned in the interview).

As a German company, Innok Robotics would be quite interesting.
http://innok-robotics.de/en/productoverview

They already produce autonomous vehicles for various applications. Be it the Induros as a replacement for forklift trucks, which depending on the model has a payload of 700 to 1200 kg, or more niche things like the Rainos for watering green spaces (cemeteries).

Everything that a technically complex robot needs, e.g. for packing goods, can probably be achieved with half the technical know-how and price of a stationary robot.
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@Staatsmann
I also find $6481 very interesting.
Or also $6954.
$KGX of course also not uninteresting
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@Staatsmann We are already using four-legged friends as guard dogs. They are not yet perfect, but they are a first step.
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@TradingHase
$7012 also builds four-legged friends
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@Tenbagger2024 Yes, but I wouldn't want to get in at the moment. I don't think the bottom has been reached yet.
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@TradingHase Very good!

I have already seen some of the Innok models in action and was positively impressed.
Marking routes, programming delivery routes and then initially only people were needed to place the goods for the robots so that they could be driven to production. (The goods were in a high-bay warehouse and Innok can't quite handle that yet).

The people who used to take the goods from A to B with forklift trucks can now take care of far more important things, such as loading/unloading trucks quickly, because robots are often not yet good enough to improvise if the truck only loads instead of coming empty.
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@Staatsmann I saw a similar rack storage system at BMW in Munich on Friday. The new vehicles are brought in or taken out fully automatically.
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Hi 👋 As always, a strong article, a great addition to our favorite topic of humanoid robotics.
I don't think it will end up being just a niche market, demand is already high and will grow even more as soon as a really functional product comes onto the market.
We'll definitely be keeping an eye on this. 🚀
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@EpsEra
Oh yes, you really are an asset to the community. And I'm looking forward to your next contribution.
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I want a robo-butler to clean up after my two favorite kids. That's my biggest dream 😅 But by the time it arrives, the boys will probably be out of the house. 🫣
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