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Too much GQ, YT, Reddit, financial flow & co. hung out :-) -

The experiment/bet started € 250 p.m. / € 3,000 p.a. in the holy Amumbo for the next 1-2 years and then see what happens after the next correction/crash.

(>20 years until retirement, will just sit it out).

07.01

Amundi ETF Leveraged MSCI USA Daily

Comprado x9,817 em € 25,46

€ 249,99

15 Comentários

SarkasmusSchlumpf@SchlaubiSchlumpf

1Ano

Hehe sitting out minus 34% in one day on the NASDAQ will be fun 😄

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Alfred E.@Papiertiger

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@SchlaubiSchlumpf today my Nvidia shares went from +4000% to 3,800% down 200% in absolute terms, or ~€3,000. Just sit it out 🤓

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SarkasmusSchlumpf@SchlaubiSchlumpf

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@Papiertiger With a triple-leveraged etf, however, I have 0% in one day at minus 34% 😁

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Chandra@Chandra

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@SchlaubiSchlumpf Psst google mal „circuit breaker“
Gibt’s schon seit über 10 Jahren. 😉

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SarkasmusSchlumpf@SchlaubiSchlumpf

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@Chandra ich nehme an, du meinst nen Stopploss? Kann ich natürlich machen. Dann nehme ich aber auch in Kauf, dass ich einen schnellen rebound intraday verpasse, oder? Wollte aber auch nur Risiken aufzeigen. Wenn man die managt und mit Risikomanagement damit umgehen kann, oder diese in Kauf nimmt, ist das okay. Meines Wissens gab es diesen von mir skizzierten Fall auch nicht. Aber ich habe mich nicht ausgiebig mit dem Kursverlauf beschäftigt 😁

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Chandra@Chandra

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@SchlaubiSchlumpf Stoploss? No, no, no. Please really google what a circuit breaker is on the stock market. It has nothing to do with a stoploss.
Circuit breakers ensure that the stock market cannot fall 34% a day because trading is suspended long beforehand.

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SarkasmusSchlumpf@SchlaubiSchlumpf

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@Chandra I see. I didn't know the term then. I had heard of the phenomenon before. That's actually a good point. Of course, the only thing that remains is path dependency in general. But the topic is well known.

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Chandra@Chandra

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@SchlaubiSchlumpf However, a crash also offers good opportunities to get into leveraged ETFs. If the Nasdaq 100 fell by 25%, I would get into $QQQ3 properly. (After checking the KgV again, of course) 😄

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SarkasmusSchlumpf@SchlaubiSchlumpf

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@Chandra especially after a crash, I would throw myself into it if necessary. At least with a few % of my portfolio. But I think that would only be interesting for me after 25-30%. Before that, I would be too afraid of path dependency. Of course it can continue like this after a 25-30% drop, but you're already part of the way there 😁

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Alfred E.@Papiertiger

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@SchlaubiSchlumpf the most important thing with the leveraged Nasday/S&P things. 🥚 Have and hold bluntly. Anyone who entered the Nasdaq 3x in Dec. 2021 at the ATH had to hold until June 2024 just to be +- 0.

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SarkasmusSchlumpf@SchlaubiSchlumpf

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@Papiertiger and these were only minor disturbances by stock market standards 😁

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Chandra@Chandra

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Welcome to the Amumbo gang!

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end@end

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Finally you can see the $CL2 here again

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Sterling A.@Income_Agent

1Ano

What would happen if the index lost 50%? Is the Amumbo then at 0% and bursts?

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Alfred E.@Papiertiger

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@Mexico2035 Like any leveraged product, it would be zero if the index fell by 50% in one day. But if the index were to fall 50%, the market would be technically stopped much earlier and we would have a global crisis in which we would have other problems than an old ETF.

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