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"Setback" – Portfolio Down by 100K

I had a “relapse” into my old asset class, so I’ll probably have to temporarily withdraw 100,000 from my portfolio. My core portfolio will be tapped for now and then replenished in 3–4 months through another transaction.

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We seized the opportunity to acquire a “disaster property”—consisting of a front and rear building in Leipzig—for an unbelievably low price. 1.3 million for just under 1,500 m². Last week, we were busy kicking the junkies out. I’m doing this project with an acquaintance—we each own a 50% stake.

The next 12 months are going to be a lot of work, since all 24 apartments need to be renovated. There are also 2 commercial units. At least the roofs and the heating system are in good condition.


Key figures:

Purchase price: 1,300,000

Closing costs: 169,000

Renovation costs: 351,000

Total costs: 1,820,000


Equity: 220,000

Debt: 1,600,000

Monthly payment (4.2% interest, 1.5% principal): 7,600

Projected base rent per month 14,500

I’m really, really happy that this worked out. The cash flow will be very good, and so will the return on equity. We had the notary appointment last week, so it’s actually a done deal.

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Forget it: For a “disaster-stricken house,” the renovation costs seem very low to me. It’s more like a simple fix-up. Bright and cheerful—and then in come the tenants 😁 For that amount, you can’t really expect more than a fresh coat of paint, new flooring, a few touch-ups in the bathrooms, and maybe a new coat of paint on the exterior.
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@Dividendenopi That’s the expert speaking. Yeah, that’s probably how it’ll be. We rent out properties based on the rent index and don’t build luxury units. It’s just walls, floors, and interior doors. Here and there, a few apartment doors, and in the bathrooms, the fixtures and floor tiles to spruce things up a bit. There are also a few broken window panes and battered plastic windows.

We’ll send in our crew of Ukrainians. 😉
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@NichtRelevant I know a few people in Berlin who'll put up some drywall—that'll quickly turn 24 units into 96. Throw in some beds and chairs, and foreign students and experts are lining up for housing in Leipzig, too. You can make a fortune there until someone steps in.
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@Musikerie We already have that in Leipzig, too 😅. But we try to keep things reasonably clean and stick to the housing protection regulations when it comes to floor plan design and remodeling.

We have another building right around the corner with 19 student shared apartments. We’ve already implemented the concept of furnished rentals there, but we’re staying within the legally permitted limits there as well.

It’s still been quite profitable so far. I’m really looking forward to getting started on the renovations.
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That looks pretty nice—congratulations. It would be a bit too big for me; I'm too old for that sort of thing now.
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@Dividendenopi I thought I was too old for that kind of thing, too. I was kind of talked into it, and the sale was just really, really cheap.
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(Sorry, I had to delete the post and repost it. I couldn't delete the photos, which for some reason had been uploaded twice—I could only delete the entire post.)
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Congratulations! So, here’s my question again: Have you thought about dividing up the individual apartments and selling them as an investment? Given the purchase price, you could make a hefty profit without the headaches of renting them out, right? 🤯😄
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@Johannes21 Yes, we’re splitting it up. But we’re doing that primarily because it’s a requirement of the financing bank. Banks value individual apartments more favorably than a single property.

A direct sale would be tax-disadvantageous, since we purchased our stake in a GbR. If tax-free sales are still allowed in 10 years, then splitting the property and selling the units individually would, of course, be a huge moneymaker.

Regardless of that, we have another project (there in an operating GmbH) where we’re splitting it up and selling it off. But we’re still right in the middle of construction there.
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@NichtRelevant Be sure to keep the three object boundaries in mind as well.
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@Solitair That's right. That's another option. So with the GbR, either sell gradually or stick with a buy-and-hold strategy.
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Looks like Gohlis or Möckern :D
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@Dirty30 Way worse. 😅 It's in Volkmarsdorf on Eisenbahnstraße. That's why there are junkies there.
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@NichtRelevant How much rent do they charge per square meter there?
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@NichtRelevant Wow, I would've bet on Möckern at the back near the job center 😂 Volkmarsdorf isn't bad either, of course. Nice spot in the hotspot.
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@Solitair Approx. 8 euros (excluding utilities) per square meter for residential units. Commercial: approx. 25 euros per square meter
@NichtRelevant 😭 I pay 13. But at least there aren't any junkies running around here (yet).
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@Solitair But rents have actually already gone up in my “Glasscherbenviertel” neighborhood, too. Fifteen years ago, there were still a lot of vacant units here, and in some cases, base rents as low as 4.50 euros for ground-floor apartments.

👉I’ll rent you an apartment for 8 euros once the project is finished. All you have to do is move in. 😅 There’s a park across the street, lots of kebab shops, shisha bars, and Arab supermarkets. I actually live nearby myself (no joke)—it’s not that bad.
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@NichtRelevant But you're really into Eisenbahnstraße—or at least the area—aren't you? 😅 Since your last project there didn't work out, you looked for something new in the area. I would've thought it would be cheaper, though. I'd rather stay in Markkleeberg and pay my €10 rent (excluding utilities) 😀
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I'm from Chemnitz; next time I'm in Leipzig, I'll check out that attraction. 😃
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@Keksbaer Existing rents in the neighborhood are certainly still lower for the most part. But we’re renting everything out anew after the renovation—at the moment, most of the units are vacant and the interiors are in disarray.
@NichtRelevant Yes, new construction and renovated apartments are also significantly more expensive. In Markkleeberg, some new construction units cost as much as 20€ in base rent 😅
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Respect!!
I'm also thinking about whether I should expand my real estate portfolio a bit more 🤔
But I definitely want to congratulate you
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I respect that, too... and I haven't had the guts for a year to buy anything other than an apartment as an investment :(
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@Agent007 Don't worry. The numbers can be a little daunting at first. But you do get something in return for the debt. Think carefully about the location for your investment, have the financing reviewed, and then visit as many properties as you can. Eventually, you'll find something that's right for you.
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That’s bold. I wish you the best of luck—I wouldn’t take that on myself these days; there are just too many deadbeat tenants and slobs out there. But it could also turn out well—I’m keeping my fingers crossed for you. If everything goes as planned (which it usually never does :) ), it’s a nice complex. But at the projected base rent, you’re really renting it out cheap… a little over 350 euros per unit? That seems absurdly cheap to me, even for this location and description.
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@ZaphodB In Leipzig (and especially in the eastern part of the city), rents aren’t that high, and we’re not looking to do a luxury renovation anyway. It’s more of a conservative estimate—if things go better than expected, we’ll gladly take the extra profit.

Of course, there are always uncertainties in these projects (especially when it comes to renovation and construction costs), but we’ve tried a few things over the past few years and learned a lot along the way. I’ll keep you posted once things have progressed a bit further.
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In which neighborhood is your "disaster house" located?
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Neustadt, on the border with Volkmarsdorf.
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