2G·

Mercedes value and performance

$MBG (+1,16%) currently appears to be under pressure. I would like to share my rough thoughts on the current valuation of the company:


Mercedes' operating business basically consists of "Cars + Vans". The free cash flow from this business will be around €5 billion in 2025, down from around €9 billion previously.

The company has net cash of around €32 billion.

The banking division could roughly be valued at 5x -7x multiple with around € 6-9 billion.

In addition, there is a 30% shareholding in Daimler Truck, which corresponds to around €10 billion at the current valuation.

All of these are non-operating businesses with a total value of around €48-51 billion. With a current market valuation of €53 billion, the market is therefore pricing in the core operating business at €2-5 billion. Admittedly, there is little confidence in the business. At the same time, this business delivers €5 billion fcf in a relatively poor year! There are certainly working capital effects here that push the whole thing up (+1.5 bn € cf. 2024) and a downside to 0 is certainly not unrealistic for a cyclical company. If you try to normalize the fcf conservatively, e.g. WC -1.5 bn € compared to 2024, there would still be 2 bn € left from a business that the market is pricing at close to 0.


For a business operating in a difficult environment, I still find the valuation with such figures rather overpessimistic. What do you think?

7
6 Commenti

immagine del profilo
You are certainly right, there are still many billions of euros in play. However, the stock market is not evaluating today with the already weak annual figures for 2025 and missed expectations, but the future. And I don't think things look quite so rosy there (even if all the Merc fanboys see it completely differently). Spontaneous points from me:

1. forecast from Mercedes has been lowered
2. weak demand in China
3. upcoming e-mobility (=low combustion engine sales & high investment costs)
4. technology leadership of Chinese competitors in e-mobility

So $MBG would not be an investment for me
2
immagine del profilo
@GHF I'm not a fanboy, but an MB driver. Mercedes is clearly in crisis. Wrong decisions regarding e-mobility, poor design decisions and declining quality have not caused sales to plummet for nothing.
No major turnaround is to be expected in the short term, even if the new CLA is a good car. But at too high a price and with only average qualities.
As an old Mercedes fan, the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end when I see their current model range. Even after the "mopf", the S-Class looks clumsy on the outside and like a 14-year-old's gaming room on the inside. I wonder who buys that.
2
immagine del profilo
@Solitair I'm sticking with my S205 and S213. Two rock-solid cars that I'm very happy with. After that, things really did go downhill.
immagine del profilo
Just imagine if they announced tomorrow that they would no longer be building pure electric stuff....
1
immagine del profilo
There are around 2.3 billion car buyers on the planet.
If Mercedes as a premium brand gets 1% of the cake here, that's 23 million customers.
Vehicle production annually ~ 3 million thus orders for 7 years, then spare parts again new acquisition Premium drive 3-5 years.
I don't see any danger for Premium here.
The Chinese (customers) are very safety conscious and will switch from the dangerous vehicles back to German Premium.
1
Partecipa alla conversazione