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🇦🇹 - A Question for Austrians About Net ETF Policies

With a net policy (also known as a “Nettopolice”), you invest in ETFs for retirement planning: without the 27.5% capital gains tax, commission-free, and with full compound interest.


You pay a one-time 4% insurance tax upon purchase, and the money is locked in for at least 10 years if you want it to remain tax-free.


The more affordable options on the market have a management fee of ~0.4% per year.


It’s important that it’s a double-net policy so that as few fees as possible are paid.


The specific products included vary by provider.

At ÖBV, for example, there are $GERD (+0,8%) and $D5V0 (+0,49%) to choose from.

Standard Live offers Dimensional Fund products.


What do we think of double-net policies?

Have you ever heard of them?


What are the downsides to putting a third or half of my assets into such an insurance-wrapped investment?


Here’s a comparison calculator:

https://nettopolizze.at/vergleich/nettopolizze/

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immagine del profilo
I’m holding my 1xGTAA stake (15%) through mylife Rente. A 0.2% annual fee for a tax-free vehicle is just about acceptable compared to a broker. 0.4% would be too much for me.
One drawback of a net policy that many people don’t realize is that the ETFs don’t belong to you, but to the insurance company. If the insurance company goes bankrupt, your money is gone. An emergency fund then takes over your claims and pays you 2–3% per year at some point in the future. Then you’re out of luck.

So net policies are okay as a supplement to retirement savings, but they should never form the core of your retirement plan.
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immagine del profilo
@Epi Yes, it’s a little different in Austria.
Here, the funds in the policies also belong to the insurance company, but they’re legally required to maintain 100% reserves for these products off their own balance sheet...

I can also imagine taking out two policies with different insurance companies.

We’ll see...
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immagine del profilo
I'm waiting for the ÖVP to abolish the securities tax 🤔
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immagine del profilo
@Shiatsu Hope isn't a strategy 😅
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