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Fight 20 drones per minute without an external power source

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Hello my dears,

with the drone attack on Poland which was fought with very expensive weapons. Probably a big topic now, how relatively cheap drones can be fought with correspondingly cheap weapons.

Feel free to share your opinion in the comments. I'm looking forward to it.


The Australian armaments company EOS presents a containerized 150-kilowatt laser system that is completely self-sufficient against swarms of drones.


Australian defense manufacturer Electro Optic Systems (EOS) has unveiled its Apollo High Energy Laser Weapon(opens in new window) - a laser weapon system that can autonomously eliminate up to 200 medium-sized drones without relying on external power sources.


The development of air defense laser systems has been ongoing for decades, with technical challenges including reliable target detection, tracking capabilities, sufficient destructive power and robustness of the system under operational conditions.


The Apollo weapon system fits into a standard 20-foot shipping container and has two emitter units mounted on the top of the container. EOS reports that the system can eliminate drone targets at ranges of up to 3 km and disable optical sensors at ranges of up to 14.5 km. The platform provides 360-degree coverage with fast target acquisition capabilities.


Technical specifications and operational performance


The announced key data shows that Apollo can engage targets in a 60-degree arc within 700 milliseconds and potentially neutralize 20 Group 1 drones per minute. The system targets unmanned vehicles ranging from 9 kg Group 1 units to 600 kg Group 3 platforms.


The laser weapon's autonomous power supply distinguishes it from competing systems that require a continuous external power supply. According to the manufacturer, the battery enables use against around 200 drone targets. When connected to the main power supply, the system is said to have an unlimited operating capacity - more precise details were not provided.


According to reports, EOS has already concluded the sale to an unnamed NATO member state. How many units are involved and whether they have already been put into service remains unknown for the time being. The system is Itar-free(opens in new window), meaning that it does not require an export license from the USA.


Countries rely on lasers, microwaves or kinetic defense against drones


In China, on the other hand, microwave weapons are used to defend against swarms of drones. China South Industries Group Corporation (CSGC) and Norinco have presented a truck-based system for this purpose. The microwave weapon is mounted on an 8×8 truck from the Shacman SX2400/2500 series and also has a radar for target detection and tracking.


Russia, on the other hand, relies on small missiles against drones and has presented the Panzir SMD-E air defense system. This system dispenses with traditional machine guns and relies on a large number of small missiles and is intended for stationary use. Up to 48 of these fit into the launchers.


The UK wants to use lasers for air defense in the future. However, the new Dragonfire system is still at the testing stage and has already completed a number of firing exercises.


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The Israeli armaments company Rafael Advanced Defense Systems and Elbit only announced in September 2025 that the high-performance Iron Beam 450 laser system was ready for series production and was about to be delivered to the Israeli armed forces. The system is said to be capable of intercepting rockets, mortar shells, enemy aircraft and drones. It is likely to be the first laser weapon to be put into active service.


September 20, 2025 at 14:30 / Andreas Donath


https://www.golem.de/news/eos-apollo-200-drohnen-pro-minute-ohne-externe-stromquelle-bekaempfen-2509-200309.html

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Funny, I stumbled across this very stock $EOS yesterday while doing some research. 😎 I was looking for opportunities to invest against the drone hype and not have to take Rheinmetall. Sounded interesting for further research. If you don't want to buy in Sydney, you can go to Frankfurt and from Monday 22.09. also via the Munich stock exchange.
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@Dividendenopi
@Multibagger then let's take another look. Also have a look at DKB.

Otherwise, what do you think of Elbit?

Thank you @Dividendenopi
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@Dividendenopi That's right, but it must be new. It didn't work 3 weeks ago.
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tradable at ING.
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at DEGIRO NL also tradable via ASX💪🏻
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@Dividendenopi
My dear,
You bought it.
I think the share is already very expensive.
Nothing should really go wrong then
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@Tenbagger2024 No, I did not buy. The market was very tight at the beginning, now it's better.... However, the system is not that convincing based on my findings so far, the competition is there and the larger potential orders are still too vague. Let the initial hype run its course and if there is a stronger setback due to a lack of news, I'll think again
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@Dividendenopi
I think $RTX and $ESLT are also well positioned in drone defense.
Both companies are broadly positioned, which I see as an advantage.
And the valuation is still acceptable.
Elbit could perhaps become even cheaper with peace in Gaza.
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@Tenbagger2024 I'm still hesitating between EOS and Elbit. Why did EOS fall so much yesterday? Lg and good morning... 🙋🏾‍♂️
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@felipeestupendo
Perhaps it has something to do with the EU meeting in Copenhagen.
Drone wall
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Elbit looks interesting and is tradable at scalable. You can put in a small position.
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@felipeestupendo
Israeli politics could perhaps put some pressure on the Group. But I see potential in the long term. Elbit is very innovative and has a good portfolio.
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@Tenbagger2024 and you have to hand it to the Israelis, they really do build very good weapons systems. Be it the Iron Dome or their Merkava tanks. Still one of the most advanced countries in the Middle East. The rest is not an issue. And defensive passive systems are almost more important than active weapons, for most countries. So 📈🚀
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Tradable in Frankfurt & Munich as of today
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@STANDARD Frankfurt and Munich? But I am Berlin 🙎🏾
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@felipeestupendo also in Hamburg since yesterday. Probably have to move. 👀
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The war of the future (drones) probably ended before it really began. If "Iron Beam" is burning drones for just USD 4 - shouldn't drone manufacturers be shorted?
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@PaulPK
At the moment, Russian drones are still getting away with it.
And drones will also play an increasingly important role for peaceful purposes.
Besides, you can't equip all borders with defense systems
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@PaulPK Basically not a completely wrong idea, but the market is open in many directions. Delivery services are also very interested in drones.
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@TradingHase Yes, I realize that - but the military solutions have been priced in for months now. The original quote was - drones are indispensable for warfare etc. If you can now shoot them down for 4 USD instead of 50k - that's already a gamechanger :)
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@PaulPK Absolutely right, and the performance of these systems can be expanded even further. I am sure that there will be interchangeable battery systems and that the systems can be operated without charging breaks even without direct power on site.
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@TradingHase I agree
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@Tenbagger2024 with mobile systems...
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I am curious to see how the topic as a whole will develop. If drones and drone defense become equally important, manufacturers will consider new weapon systems. Will the all-destroying laser or microwave weapons come? It's frightening.
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@TradingHase I think a company that invests its potential in defense, AI and the latest technologies should be included in its diversified portfolio...
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@felipeestupendo I agree with you and am doubly on board with $DRO and $ONDS. However, I would only like to keep Ondas in the long term.
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@Tenbagger2024 Have you completely ignored $ONDS?
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@TradingHase
Was previously not tradable. And I always find it a bit difficult to invest in companies that are not yet profitable
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@Tenbagger2024 Where were they not tradable? SC, TR and Zero were.
The next figures are due on 17.11. and I think we could see a slight rise here.
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@Multibagger @Dividendenopi @Tenbagger2024 perhaps take a look at $LASR. Especially in view of the GoldenDome and its award in mid-October?
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@Tigawutz
Also interesting, they come from the industry.
I'm surprised they're not profitable yet.
Take a look at lpkf $LPK they have over 200% profit growth next year. But hardly anything to see in the performance.

There is supposed to be a new strategy here, but defense doesn't seem to be part of it. But if it does, I could imagine that the share will 🚀.
https://www.stock-world.de/lpkf-aktie-doppelschlag-fuer-anleger/#:~:text=Der%20Laserspezialist%20LPKF%20korrigiert%20Umsatz,Transformationsprogramm%20auf%20das%20schwierige%20Marktumfeld.&text=Kurz%20zusammengefasst:,Handelskonflikt%20USA%2DChina%20belastet%20Auftragseingang

@Multibagger
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At the top of the WL. Greetings go out to @Multibagger 😉
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I got carried away and opened a small position in $EOS. Today again +10% on the ASX
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@Tigawutz I would have dared, but neither tradable on SC nor on Zero. 🤷🏼‍♂️
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@TradingHase now yes on SC 😅
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@felipeestupendo Thanks, I'll see if I can take a small position there
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@TradingHase I've decided on a small position in $ESLT Elbit for the time being. The Israelis can build good defenses and certainly also for drones.
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@felipeestupendo Well, there are plenty of them flying around at the moment 😉.
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@TradingHase I can also recommend the other side of the story $FLT Volatus. This is not about combat drones, but much more - it is also about airborne security, maintenance, AI, detection, etc. The Canadian company is receiving more and more orders and the penny stock is slowly moving into positive territory. I also have a small position there. Kind regards.
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@felipeestupendo
With Elbit you have the advantage of not just having a pure drone/defense producer.
Elbit has a very broad base. And therefore definitely more suitable in the long term.
Of course, the performance of the drone entrepreneurs is better.
But in the long term, I think Elbit is ahead.
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@felipeestupendo You can put something in your portfolio. It's an exciting read. I'm also invested in Droneshield, but I'm a bit worried in the long term because they are very specialized.
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Have been holding EOS for a while now.

The following is currently being discussed.

- First NATO order a few weeks ago for 125m Aud.

- Current negotiations with two major customers worth 500 million dollars

- Land 400 (H1 investor call Land 156 and Land400 were both described as very confident, so an update should be coming soon.

- Cooperation with MSI Defense last week. (installation of EOS products on boats & ships)

- Customer to finance a 300KW in development. This would also make it possible to defend against missiles and not just drones.
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Are they all AI generated?
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@JayjoMoney Are you a chatbot? The information is the important thing, not the way it is processed. AI is often simply quicker. If you receive a tip that is created and shared with AI and this tip doubles your stake in a month, do you demonize the tip?
Think about it...
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@TradingHase yes but think about reading AI generated stuff once before you post it. If there are paragraphs in there 3 times then that shows that it hasn't been read. You shouldn't do that. You shouldn't just take what the AI spits out as true. I am an IT specialist in Linux system administration. I now have a bit of experience in dealing with AI
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@JayjoMoney Sorry, but I don't use AI for texts. 🤷🏼‍♂️
What is the outlook for EOS? Do you have some analysis about it
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@Allan-
Yes, well, perhaps the wrong wording, I don't want to be the trigger for the third world war here either. So thank you for your correction.
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@Tenbagger2024 Many "quality journalists" from the ÖRR have also used this choice of words (especially on X) :) It always sticks...
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@Allan- I didn't realize that (and didn't find anything in a web search). Can you link me to an article on the statement - I would be interested. Many thanks in advance :)
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@Shareholder There don't seem to be any (reliable) sources. Probably just some TikTok videos from self-proclaimed political/military/glass ball people.
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@Allan- Thank you for your reply. You had already written that. I am always very happy to learn. Simply repeating assertions does not make an assertion true. I like to rely on facts, data and facts. Hence the question about reliable sources. So if you have any, please link them here so that we can all benefit from them. Thank you.
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@Allan- Since I can't find your sources, I just asked Perplexity:

In September 2025, several Russian drones penetrated Polish airspace. The official reports from Poland and NATO list this as a targeted violation of airspace. Poland considered the drones a direct threat and shot down several, supported by NATO air forces. Russia denied having planned targeted attacks on Poland and Belarus, as an ally, claimed that the drones accidentally entered Polish airspace as a result of electronic warfare interference with their navigation systems in Ukraine. Some Western and Russian intelligence sources, as well as Belarus, thus cited external interference through electronic jamming as the cause. However, experts consider the assessment that the drones were deliberately sent to Poland to be more likely, as strategic targets such as transport and logistics hubs in Poland were hit and the action is interpreted as a provocation against NATO and the EU.

Laser defense is described as a modern drone defense method and introduced in some NATO countries, but there is no direct source confirming that laser defense caused the drones to "stray" into Polish airspace. The progress reports rather speak of electronic warfare as a possible influence on the drone course, without concrete evidence that the drones accidentally entered Poland only for this reason.

To summarize, there are statements and speculations that cite external influence (electronic warfare, navigation interference) as the cause of an accidental intrusion, but the official and expert-based view considers a deliberate Russian action to be more likely. An isolated statement that drones were only misdirected by laser defense is not documented or available as a valid source[1][2][3][4][5][6].

Sources
[1] 2025 Russian drone incursion into Poland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Russian_drone_incursion_into_Poland
[2] Poland says it shot down Russian drones after airspace ... https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c147065pzdzo
[3] Russia tests the boundaries - Inside Story https://insidestory.org.au/russia-tests-the-boundaries/
[4] The Hottest New Defense Against Drones? Lasers https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/18/world/europe/drones-laser-weapons.html
[5] Russian drone incursion into Poland will test Nato resolve https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clydk8821nro
[6] Intel officials are split on whether Russia deliberately flew ... https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/19/politics/intelligence-assessments-russian-drones-poland
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