13H·

What opportunities arise with identical twins

$8035 (-15.14%) . $ASML (-2.1%)
$MSFT (-3.8%)
$GOOGL (-2.86%)

Hello my dears,

I've been invested in these four companies for a few months now.

And I quickly noticed something here.

Alphabet and Microsoft behave almost the same way.

Sometimes one share is slightly ahead, but then it doesn't take long for the other share to follow.

It's the same with ASML and Tokyo Electron.

That's why it was almost clear to me that after the mini crash at ASML there would also be a crash at Tokyo Electron after the figures.

(I have compared the companies for you in the annual and 5-year charts).

Now my question would be to the short experts.

My dears,

aren't there good opportunities here, and wouldn't it have made sense to go short on Tokyo Electron before the figures?

@Dividendenopi
@Multibagger
@Epi

30 Comments

Epi@Epi

13H

The idea sounds simple and effective. But perhaps you should check whether the last 3 times were more of a coincidence or systematic. I don't think the charts are clear.

But apart from that, you know that I tend to stay out of single stock trading strategies. That field belongs to others 😉

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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024

13H

@Epi
My dear,
Maybe it's a challenge for you 🙈😂.

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Epi@Epi

13H

@Tenbagger2024 I don't know. 20 years of trying like this is enough for me. 😅

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Smudo@Smudeo

11H

$GOOGL Long rising not short falling. Has just broken through all chart lines to the upside. Bull run (rising) not falling

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Kapitän K.@PalmPirateTechnocrate

@Smudeo What exactly do you mean? Bull run?

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Leonardo@FascioeMartello

11H

I wouldn't use this info to go short, I would use it to decide if i want to buy before or after the quarter's results

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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024

10H

@FascioeMartello
Thank you,
This is also a good way to use the twins

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PikaPika0105@PikaPika0105

Sounds like a cool idea. Maybe I'll give it a try and look for a few more twins first....

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ThemenmitKopf@topicswithhead

13H

Google and Microsoft also have pretty much the same business. That's probably where it comes from.

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ThemenmitKopf@topicswithhead

13H

@topicswithhead they only have different strengths. Otherwise they are almost 95% different

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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024

13H

@topicswithhead
Yes, of course, and ASML and Tokyo Electron too.
That's why I see good opportunities to read the shares in advance.

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Chris@1Chrischi1

13H

he also writes twins :)

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ThemenmitKopf@topicswithhead

13H

@Tenbagger2024 Well, I don't see it that way. So ASML would be pretty boring without EUV and ASML's story is EUV. EUV is also the reason for the huge service fees

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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024

13H

@topicswithhead
But you can see parallels on the chart, and when the other one went down, the other one followed. I see good opportunities to go short early on.

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Memo0606@Memo0606

13H

@Tenbagger2024 also thinking about joining $8035 for a while
what do you say tenbagger?

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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024

13H

@Memo0606
I think you should look at which plant manufacturer offers the best opportunities.
They all work in relatively the same way.
$ASML $AMAT $LRCX $8035
But maybe Tokyo is a good opportunity right now.
I myself went into ASML last year after the poor figures.
But I am still in the red because ASML has still not recovered.
That's why I'm cautious with recommendations.

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Chris@Multibagger

12H

@topicswithhead But have performed differently according to the figures

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ThemenmitKopf@topicswithhead

12H

@Multibagger are also other companies. The same is not the same. Both ASML and Alphabet are structured differently from the other two. What's more, they are all listed in different currencies. Yen, Euro, Dollar

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ThemenmitKopf@topicswithhead

12H

@topicswithhead For example, ASML must have done so badly because the dollar price was even worse. Most of the trading volume is in USD.

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Klein-Anleger1@Klein-Anleger1

13H

Sounds plausible, I'll definitely have a look. Thanks for the input 😁 @Epi you're not our strategist on Getquin 😅

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Epi@Epi

13H

@Klein-Anleger1 Maybe, but I'm holding back on individual shares. 🤷

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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024

13H

@Klein-Anleger1
Hello my dear,
After the current crash at Tokyo Electron, I said to myself, maybe it was too easy 🙈🙈.

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Dividendenopi👴@Dividendenopi

12H

Interesting approach, although Tokyo doesn't mean anything to me. No matter. I'm not a shorter on individual stocks, I go in 3 to 5 times on indices. I see myself more as an occasional trader and there on short-term rises. But I will try your approach in another area with two stocks that are currently in my trading portfolio and are both in the same sector and see if I can find a pattern.

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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024

11H

@Dividendenopi
My dear fellow,
I'm glad because I think it could perhaps be a good approach to shortening.

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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024

11H

@Dividendenopi
$STMPA and. $IFX could also be twins.
Same sector

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Dividendenopi👴@Dividendenopi

11H

@Tenbagger2024 ui, this is not my area at all, I think the most "technical" stock I have is $VZ 😂

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