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The government will pay you money to invest—things are going to get exciting starting in 2027 🧐

Starting in 2027, something is set to be introduced in Germany that could be of interest to any long-term investor:

The government-subsidized retirement savings account.

And no—I don’t just mean the next Riester plan.

For the first time, this new model will make it possible to invest in a return-oriented account with government subsidies, without a traditional contribution guarantee.

Put simply:

You invest for the long term.

The government matches your contributions.

And your money can grow in the capital markets.

What’s currently planned?

The new subsidy was actually improved even further during the legislative process.

For the first €360 of your own contribution , there is a subsidy of 50%.

For additional contributions up to a total of 1,800 € per year there is 25%.

This results in up to:

€540 in basic government allowance per year

is possible.

And child allowances may also be of interest to parents.

This means, if fully utilized:


€1,800 of your own money +

€540 in government support

€2,340 per year


that can go toward your retirement savings.

And now it gets interesting.

How does this differ from the old Riester plan?

The new retirement savings account is intended to be significantly more capital-market-oriented.

Among other things, it should be possible to invest in the stock market over the long term via funds and ETFs.

There’s also a subsidy-eligible account without a guarantee.

Of course, this means:

Higher potential returns = higher risk.

But that’s exactly what I find interesting.

Because if you still have decades until retirement, a broadly diversified stock portfolio can be much more attractive in the long term than a product that sacrifices a large portion of its potential returns for guarantees.

And now for my actual question for you:

Would you open a portfolio like this?

Personally, I find the idea exciting:

My regular investment account remains my regular investment account.

And in addition, I could build up a government-subsidized retirement savings component.

Not either stocks or retirement savings.

But rather:

Stocks + ETFs + government subsidies.

If the government is already co-financing part of my savings plan, why not at least explore this option?

Of course, you have to take a close look beforehand at the costs, investment terms, eligible securities, and—later on—the taxation of the payout.

Because “government-subsidized” doesn’t automatically mean “good product.”

The product has to be the right fit in the end.

But one thing is certain for me:

Anyone investing for the long term should take a very close look at this option in 2027.

And perhaps we investors should start looking into it now—before the first banks and brokers launch their products on the market.

What do you think:

Would you contribute €1,800 a year to such an account if it came with up to €540 in subsidies?

Or would you rather stick entirely with your regular investment account?

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The retirement savings account is a step in the right direction and should attract many new investors to the stock market to build a sound retirement plan. It’s a great thing, especially for young people!

For most people here, the €540 per year won’t really make a difference. The tax shelter and the maximum contribution limit might be more interesting. On the other hand, there are relatively strict withdrawal rules.

Ultimately, the retirement savings account is unlikely to have much impact on the strategic approach of most people here. The potential cross-subsidization through taxation of crypto and gold might even make it more expensive for established individual investors.
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immagine del profilo
I’ve been thinking about whether I should take advantage of the subsidy—that is, contribute 150/180 € or whatever the amount is…
I’m not sure at the moment, though.
I’m assuming there will be (nearly) free options available through TR and similar platforms, so a tax-advantaged ETF without additional costs would be possible.

The thing is, though, I’ll have a relatively high personal tax rate both now and in retirement. In other words: I might even have a tax advantage right now, but even if I invest that amount, the government will end up taking more back in the end.
I did the math once and came up with a difference of about 30,000 euros in favor of the AV account (I still have 42 years to go).
Given this, I don’t see myself putting up with this lack of flexibility, not even for “just” 150€ a month.

But as I said: in my case, this is specifically due to what will likely be high tax rates in my old age.
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immagine del profilo
Things will get interesting once we find out how much the “TER” will cost. Only then, in my opinion, can we come up with a reasonable plan.

Here’s a handy AVD calculator I’ve found:

https://www.finanzfluss.de/rechner/altersvorsorgedepot/

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immagine del profilo
I think if I were to deposit just the €360, I'd get the 50% subsidy.
In that case, I think it's probably better to invest the rest myself.
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immagine del profilo
I already have a Riester pension plan. I'm going to switch.
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@DonkeyInvestor That was so obvious!
Anyone who has BTC and 3xGTAA obviously also has a Riester rocket ready to launch.
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@Epi is, of course, a unit-linked fund and provides a decent return. Unlike my home savings plan
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@DonkeyInvestor 😂I wouldn't have thought you were capable of that! Back then, I'd already bailed before Riester came along. In my youthful recklessness, I turned an impending "cash flow event" (endowment life insurance) into a problem for myself 🫣
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@MozartsGeist I canceled my whole life insurance policy many years ago 😁
immagine del profilo
@DonkeyInvestor It's a lousy, one-sided contract. I've already thought about making it a non-contributory plan. On the other hand, it's an old contract with a corresponding interest rate.
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@DonkeyInvestor Oh!? You have a home savings plan, too! That goes together like a donkey and a donkey...
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@Epi Speaking of which, I have kids, too
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@MozartsGeist That's how it was for me, too. I even got tax breaks on it. Get rid of those beasts!
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Currently, I'm suspending 2/3 of the premium adjustments. I might make the policy completely premium-free.
immagine del profilo
@MozartsGeist "GET OUT OF HERE, YOU BASTARD," I SAID
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immagine del profilo
Subsidies for everyone, or only up to a certain income level?
Is the money tax-free when you withdraw it, or does the government take its cut again?
Since everything subsidized by the government in recent decades has been a scam, a rip-off, and a ploy to fleece people.
As far as I’m concerned, NO—I don’t trust this scam.
immagine del profilo
@Smudeo I can understand the skepticism. But the payout isn't entirely tax-free—the main benefit lies in the subsidy and the tax treatment during the savings phase. If the government gives me money to invest for the long term, I'd still take the subsidy. 😉
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