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Daniel · 2024-03-01T16:43:29.613883Z

Ich überlege mir ganze Zeit etwas für meine kleine auf die Seite als investiition legen ( Junior depot mässig) Hat vielleicht jemand Erfahrung und Blick drauf werfen könnte.... 1. SPARPLAN : $QYLE AUSSCHÜTTENDE ETF ,DIVIDENDE IN ANDEREN ETF INVESTIEREN 2.Sparplan : $QYLE AUSCH ETF UND DIVIDENDE AUF TAGESGELDKONTO LEGEN 3. $ANX THERAURESIERENDEN ETF BESPAREN DANKE FÜR ALLE KOMMENTARE

Daniel

@DB2310

10Mes·

I'm thinking about putting something on the side as an investment for my little one (junior depot style)

Maybe someone has experience and could take a look at....

1. SPARPLAN : $QYLE (-0,52%) DISTRIBUTING ETF ,INVEST DIVIDENDS IN OTHER ETF

2nd savings plan : $QYLE (-0,52%) EXCHANGE ETF AND PUT DIVIDENDS ON CALL MONEY ACCOUNT

3. $ANX (+1,33%) SAVE THERAURESING ETF

THANKS FOR ALL COMMENTS

44 Commenti

Kill_Baulitz@Johann_van_der_Smut

10Mes

I have a junior custody account for the boy at ING. Almost all the money he gets goes into an All World and S&P500 ETF. Both distributing for tax purposes. And he also has an Nvidia in his custody account 😬

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Daniel@DB2310

10Mes

@Mongoele cool ,thanks

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Daniel@DB2310

10Mes

@DB2310 Have you taken a close look at the costs?

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Lukas M.@Lukas2998

10Mes

@Mongoele Why distributing for tax purposes? Are you trying to pay a lot of taxes?

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Kill_Baulitz@Johann_van_der_Smut

10Mes

@Lukas2998 Utilize the child's tax-free allowance

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Lukas M.@Lukas2998

10Mes

@Mongoele the tax-free amount can be better utilized with partial sales.

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Kill_Baulitz@Johann_van_der_Smut

10Mes

@Lukas2998 Why is that better? I can also make the partial sales if necessary

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Lukas M.@Lukas2998

10Mes

@Mongoele but dividends cannot be taxed. Given the investment horizon, they will probably exceed the tax-free amount.

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Kill_Baulitz@Johann_van_der_Smut

10Mes

@Lukas2998 Children have far more than €1000 tax-free

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Lukas M.@Lukas2998

10Mes

@Mongoele the amount does not change the fact that it can be better managed through partial sales.

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Kill_Baulitz@Johann_van_der_Smut

10Mes

@Lukas2998 I don't need to tax anything here for the time being. We currently have a return of well under €1000 and the child is 14 months old. Partial sales also cost money. And with ING it's not €1 like with TR. I can reinvest the distribution virtually for free via a savings plan

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Kolibri@Renditedichter

10Mes

LINK THE ETFS PROPERLY SO THAT YOU CAN BE HELPED EASILY AND DON'T SHOUT ABOUT IT!

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Daniel@DB2310

10Mes

@Renditedichter don't shout at all 😅😅😅😅

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Kolibri@Renditedichter

10Mes

@DB2310 thanks Boomer

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M.T.@Miltos

10Mes

@Renditedichter
How can the ETFs be linked? Is this technically possible?

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Kolibri@Renditedichter

10Mes

@Miltos Daniel has already corrected it in his post, just click on the blue links ;)

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M.T.@Miltos

10Mes

@Renditedichter thanks !

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Daniel@DB2310

10Mes

Boomer?

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Kolibri@Renditedichter

10Mes

@DB2310 very good! You got the links right :)
What parameters do you use to select ETFs?
I don't invest in ETFs with a volume of less than 500 million, they should have been on the market for more than 5 years and the TER should ideally be less than 0.2. So I wouldn't invest in your ETFs. Have a look at the Finanzfluss website, they have an ETF search where you can filter for such things or you can look through the articles on ETFs here and get some inspiration.
Basically, you should ask yourself what your goal with the etfs should be (growth, income, global portfolio). So far, I don't see any strategy.
Boomer is an insult for older people (from the boomer generation) who are stupid on the internet, for example ;)

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Stickup@Stickup

10Mes

I have a savings plan for our son at $IWDA, and I have one myself at $EXXT

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Daniel@DB2310

10Mes

@Stickup Where did you make your savings plan?

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Stickup@Stickup

10Mes

@DB2310 with ING

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Lukas M.@Lukas2998

10Mes

This can be done in a much more targeted manner through partial sales.

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CryptoPfand@CryptoPfand

10Mes

Make sure that you don't exceed any limits if you put it in your son's name (BAföG etc.) - and be aware that the money belongs to him at 18 - no matter how mature he is then...

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Kill_Baulitz@Johann_van_der_Smut

10Mes

@CryptoPfand If in doubt, invest a few years in fixed-term deposits just before he turns 18... ;-)
But yes, a very valid point. For me, the money would not have been in good hands at the age of 18. But I wouldn't tell my child about his "assets" until he was 18 either. Ideally, you should involve them a few years earlier so that they can see that it's a good thing and that you won't blow the money on the latest iPhone, for example, at 18...

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Ludwig@tesla_diesel

10Mes

In my opinion, too much USA. More worldwide if necessary

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Lukas M.@Lukas2998

10Mes

Dividends are basically the same as partial sales. The only disadvantage is that you cannot control it. For example, it can increase and exceed the tax-free amount or be too small to be utilized.

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Kill_Baulitz@Johann_van_der_Smut

10Mes

@Lukas2998 The child can earn up to €6060 in investment income in 2024. If it exceeds this amount, it will no longer be covered by family insurance (health insurance). In most cases, it will take some time before a child earns €6,000 in investment income per year. And until then, I have enough time to switch to accumulators so that this does not happen

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Lukas M.@Lukas2998

10Mes

@Mongoele However, taxes have to be paid on the gains when reallocating, so that's not a good idea either.

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Kill_Baulitz@Johann_van_der_Smut

10Mes

@Lukas2998 What do you think the average parent has in their children's deposit box? And no, you don't invest grandma's and grandpa's money in Nvidia or anything like that, but handle it with care and caution. There's a big difference between investing your child's money and investing your own

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Lukas M.@Lukas2998

10Mes

@Johann_van_der_Smut What relevance does the size of the portfolio have here?
And how do you come up with individual shares?

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Kill_Baulitz@Johann_van_der_Smut

10Mes

@Lukas2998 How much money do you need to invest in a relatively low-risk ETF (e.g. ACWI) to make 6K a year?
Nvidia is an example of a stock that has also been gambled with in recent weeks

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Lukas M.@Lukas2998

10Mes

@Johann_van_der_Smut I don't know either. But you can roughly calculate that using the dividend yield.

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Kill_Baulitz@Johann_van_der_Smut

10Mes

@Lukas2998 For the sake of simplicity, assume the ETF makes 6%. Then that's €100,000 that you have to invest. Who do you think has that for their child? These are the very fewest in society and therefore the 6K return per year is totally illusory for most people anyway and your comments on better taxability via partial sales are not relevant here at all. Do you actually have children yourself and have you ever seriously read up on the subject?

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Lukas M.@Lukas2998

10Mes

@Johann_van_der_Smut Where is the argument? You talked about utilizing the tax-free amount. I merely said that partial sales are better than dividends. And that is independent of the capital invested and the return.

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Kill_Baulitz@Johann_van_der_Smut

10Mes

@Lukas2998 which is completely irrelevant in this context... 😏

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Lukas M.@Lukas2998

10Mes

@Johann_van_der_Smut then I don't understand why you started this topic.

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