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Why you shouldn't get angry! (actually logical)

When looking at your portfolio, most of you will probably have noticed in the last few days that your net worth has gone down a bit. My portfolio has also gone down quite a bit and the obvious emotion is anger/disappointment. Here I would like to point out that this anger/disappointment is actually irrational for the majority of us.

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Most investors strive for long-term wealth accumulation in order to have built up a nice fortune in 10 or 15 years, for example - perhaps only at the beginning of retirement. Whether you pass the assets on to your children, gradually consume them in the autumn of your life or want to live off the dividends depends on your individual strategic orientation and life situation. However, very few people here are probably already in the "withdrawal phase" and are therefore only just building up their assets for later.


And here comes the point. Even if the value of the portfolio has decreased for the time being, you still have the same number of shares and company units (provided you haven't sold anything). The company or companies themselves do not care at all about the price of their own share certificate for their operating activities. The price drop - especially because it is a price drop resulting from a nervous market and not from bad news from the company - has ZERO influence on the company itself in the vast majority of cases. The company's market capitalization goes down, as does the P/E ratio. The dividend yield goes up. A purchase is now more attractive than before, provided it is a stable company with a reasonably crisis-proof business model.


So if you invest for the long term and gradually buy more and more shares, the dip or even a major slump is good for you, as you get more company shares for the same money while the share price is lower. Settlement takes place at the end when you need the money - in the meantime it's really just a screenshot!


Are there exceptions? Yes. If you were just about to withdraw money by selling shares and you need the money (buying a house, moving house, new car, starting a business) etc., it is of course stupid. If you're making speculative investments and possibly using financial instruments to bet on rising prices, it's even worse. But that doesn't apply to most of us.


Conclusion: Don't get angry, it's not sensible. If possible, use the low prices to buy in a disciplined and stoic manner. In a few years, you will be really happy that you were able to buy shares for cheap money.


Finally, an example from my own portfolio: My largest single position is Munich Re ( $MUV2 (-0,34 %) ). At one point last year, the share price was at 600 euros per share, today it is at 520. The company is doing brilliantly, the insurance business is not dependent on the economy. No one has yet tried to impose tariffs on insurance or reinsurance services. There are also no supply chains that could be interrupted. Profits are up, dividends are up. The company's share buyback program will result in even more shares being taken off the market than originally assumed at a reduced share price. Earnings per share will therefore continue to grow organically due to both the development of the operating business and the shortage of shares. From the point of view of a long-term investor, therefore, there is really no reason to tinker frantically with the portfolio despite the fall in the share price.


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Anger and disappointment rather not. Rather panic that I no longer have enough capital to buy more😂🍻 Wait and see, the prices will rise again💶💶
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@Laeuft When there's money to buy and prices are low, it's always great, of course. But most of the time I'm always pretty fully invested, so at the moment I can only invest relatively manageable amounts from dividend returns and a few monthly savings.

If the real estate deal I'm planning falls through (I posted about it yesterday), I'll have a chunk that I won't need as equity. But that will only become clear in about 2 weeks and I would actually prefer the house to buying shares.
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What stocks do you have on your watchlist? It would be interesting to exchange ideas!
For me it would primarily be $RMS and $AIR I've already added to BlackRock and if the price drops below €13 I'll also buy more at $HSBA!
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@BavarianLion If HSBC were to return to its old price levels (I don't think so), that would be very exciting indeed. 🙂
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@NichtRelevant I don't believe in old price levels either! My buy-in is at €9.70! But below €13 I would top up again! They also pay a good dividend 😉 Would like to fill up my 500 shares 😅
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@BavarianLion at what price would you strike at $AIR?
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@Max095 At 155€ I will buy the first trache! Then at 138€ the second 💪
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@Max095 $RMS is already in a great buy zone, as there is a very strong support zone at € 1630!
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@BavarianLion I am also considering joining Hermes, as well as Zoetis. I also find $BELA exciting
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@Max095 Yes, there are simply too many exciting stocks, especially during a correction 😅 But for me, $RMS and $AIR will be the last individual stocks in the portfolio! I want to keep it 50/50 with my ETF's to keep my strategy intact!
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@BavarianLion That's how I see it too. I don't want to have more than 25 individual stocks in my portfolio in the long term, and my ETF core should be 70% at best
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@Max095 I always try to keep it 50/50! I'll probably put another €1000 in each of my 3 ETFs next week, because Vanguard in particular has gone down a lot!
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@BavarianLion Super! That's exactly how you have to do it. I will also be putting the upcoming dividends from the shipping company shares (next month will also see the $DTE dividend and $WINC) into the positions that are now available at a good price.
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Black Friday.... Simply the best time to buy what you want
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@TechNav I'm basically with you, friday is buyday. Only this time I didn't actually buy anything, apart from a small gamble on $MSCI which is negligible in terms of volume. As long as they continue like this in Sandland, the end of the correction has not yet been reached. It's a bit different to last year in April. Even if 🍊 should announce the great peace tomorrow, there will be no sustained upward movement apart from a brief bounce. The damage done so far will reverberate for longer and it's not just the war. There are now enough other disruptive factors that have not yet been priced in. If you want to get in, then really only get your first foot in the door and add in 3 or 4 further tranches over a few weeks. Then the full extent will slowly become apparent. But that's just my guess and my approach. At the end of the year, we'll all be smarter and a little poorer or hopefully richer 🤔😉😇
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I get annoyed every time I can't buy more xD
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Never fully invested, always approx. 20% cash in call money. Bought/re-bought during crashes (Corona, Ukraine war, customs in April).
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I am fairly unemotional about the decline in the portfolio. The savings plans are running, maybe I'll buy some more. I'm not stressing about it
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I am very strongly diversified and admittedly have WAY too many stocks in my portfolio. I have not seen a significant reduction at the moment. The oil stocks alone have already largely compensated for this. I'm curious and will simply buy more within my budget
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@ZaphodB All the better. Of course - oil benefits, especially if the company is not from the Gulf region and can take advantage of the higher oil price and deliver at the same time.

My $PETR4 also did well - unfortunately I had far too little of it to make up for much... 😅
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@NichtRelevant Chevron ecopetrol, Petrotal, meren, halliburton
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