Novo out more Ferrari in

Chris · 2026-01-16T18:39:17.322202Z

Now that Trump is threatening punitive tariffs to get Greenland and he won't, I have decided to sell 115 of 175 shares in $NOVO B at a loss of just under 1k. In return, I bought the second tranche $RACE for this. I want to buy in a total of 4 tranches.

TomTurboInvest@TomTurboInvest

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Novo's 8% may well be sold off again in the short term, but I don't really see a bottom for Ferrari yet.
Since Corona, we have just entered the upper part of the value area, the POC is €171🥶let's hope that this level is not reached.

From the price level, it looks like a support, but there was hardly any volume at this level, i.e. it may well go down further, or you may be lucky and a lot of volume comes in that clears the SL and then it bounces.

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Basti92@BavarianLion

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@TomTurboInvest If I interpret it correctly, then the support for Ferrari is at €283-298! If this zone holds, then a breakout to over €327 could follow... let's see how the share develops, I'm not invested yet!

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TomTurboInvest@TomTurboInvest

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@BavarianLion a HighVolumeNode is at least around 280€, this support is definitely stronger.
I'm just observing Ferrari, but I'm not planning to buy.

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Basti92@BavarianLion

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@TomTurboInvest If I see a support that holds at the weekly closing price, then I would get in 🏎️

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Chris@1Chrischi1

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@TomTurboInvest as i said, there are still 2 tranches open, each with 5-10 shares.
I don't really buy new stocks for less than 5k anymore.
next target is around 280€

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TomTurboInvest@TomTurboInvest

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@BavarianLion I'm not interested in Ferrari at the moment, I don't see why they should be rising at the moment? But I am watching the chart out of interest to learn when and for what reason a resistance will hold at some point. The 171€ would be clear to me, before that the reasons or events would be interesting.
PS: I'm planning to borrow one for a weekend this year, it's always been a dream to drive one, maybe that will turn things around 🤪🤣

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Basti92@BavarianLion

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@TomTurboInvest I once had one over the weekend, you won't regret it 🔥 It's an incredible feeling (the sound alone)! If I had so much money that I wasn't interested in 300k, I would buy a 488 Spider IMMEDIATELY!

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VillaSpilla@VillaSpilla

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Lets see... not sure if you are not a bit too skeptical and too early (says the one who still holds 1000 shares :-) ) - time will tell ....

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Silas W.@DynasticGrind

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@VillaSpilla He won't get Greenland and I think the tariffs are a storm in a teacup. He can't attack Greenland, as they are also an EU member by virtue of the DK. I think it is likely that an EU-supported task force will be deployed in future. Trump obviously doesn't want to secure Greenland (wouldn't be a problem for the USA), but also to take over its territory (would be a huge problem for the USA). That won't work - but he can use the double game (he talks about both as it suits him) to his advantage by celebrating his diplomatic failure as a triumph: "Look! I got the Europeans to secure Greenland more strongly!'' and suddenly the hints of annexation stop and they are swept under the carpet, just like the tariffs. This is the only way for him to come out of this situation "victorious". The Don is not interested in Denmark, not in Greenland, not in the USA, but in himself. Trump just needs something he can sell as a success. I would rate the impact of this on Novo as rather low, but we'll see - the twenties seem to have it in them this time too.

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Epi@Epi

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And European luxury cars are immune to T tariffs? 🤔

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Basti92@BavarianLion

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@Epi Good point, but Captain Orange's connection to G.Meloni seems to me to be a little better than to other EU states, perhaps a "special regulation" will be found here again 😉

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Epi@Epi

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@BavarianLion But Meloni doesn't like T in Greenland either. 🤷

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Basti92@BavarianLion

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@Epi And precisely because of the Greenland story, I still have 50k parked in my Scalable account, because I believe that we will get another flash crash this year, like in April 2025 (tariffs)! And then we'll invest properly again when El Trumpo sends the markets plummeting again 😉

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Epi@Epi

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@BavarianLion One or two T-crashes could still come. I suspect, however, from a different corner than the obvious one. 🤷
Like you, I have Cash up my sleeve.

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Basti92@BavarianLion

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@Epi We all know the saying: time in the market beats... But as long as Captain Orange is in the White House, I will always "reserve" between 30-50k, because the guy is guaranteed to provide "special offers" on the stock market again 😂

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Epi@Epi

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@BavarianLion Yes, I think there is far too little talk here about tactical cash positions. About 10% of the portfolio can make a lot of sense.
There should actually be calculation methods for determining the optimal cash share, depending on the vola of the overall portfolio. 🤔

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Basti92@BavarianLion

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@Epi I agree with you 💯% on that point! I try to manage it so that my cash position is always between 9-12%! That's where most of my return came from last year, because I went full throttle in April with $GOOGL $BG $HSBA and a few others! You can't take advantage of such opportunities if you're always all-in.

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Upside_Down@Upside_Down

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I can't say anything about $RACE, but I don't think the reason for your sale of $NOVO B is valid:
Novo, just like all the other big pharma players, has now set up its supply chains in such a way that the effect of protective tariffs is minimized.
The new oral Wegovy, for example, is manufactured 100% in the USA. Other products can also be produced locally, either entirely with the company's own assets or with the help of contract manufacturers (CDMOs). This applies to the USA as well as to other regions and to Novo as well as to other global BigPharmas.

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TradingHase@TradingHase

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To be honest, I've been reading about Ferrari for weeks now - why do you think the value will go up soon?
I don't mean any offense or anything, I'm just really interested.

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Paul@paul_finesse_

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@TradingHase I'm thinking about selling, 300 didn't last, could be nasty.

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Sansebastian@Sansebastian

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Luxury always works 😉 Every share goes through a correction. When it reaches its ATH, everyone wants it again. Act anti-cyclically, buy cheaper, get more shares and be happy when there are new ATHs

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Basti92@BavarianLion

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@TradingHase I'm just expressing my personal opinion. For me, Ferrari is the same as Louis Vuitton! A big correction and then the turnaround. You must not forget that Ferrari still has far more demand than supply, the order books are full to bursting! The support zone is €283-298, if it holds, then things could go up very quickly! Otherwise a correction to €243 is imminent!

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TradingHase@TradingHase

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Thanks for your thoughts on this. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you all and I'm with you that the name is worth a lot, but I'm not convinced by the models 😉.

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Silas W.@DynasticGrind

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@TradingHase Extremely strong margins for a car manufacturer, remarkable brand loyalty and, financially speaking, above all generous share buybacks in recent years with equally stable profits, which inevitably means more earnings per share and makes the share more expensive in the long term. I don't think that Ferrari will suddenly grow exponentially again as a company(!) - but it will as a share, because the scarcity of shares means more for the investor. "Luxury always runs" is a dangerous belief that I didn't want to use as an argument here; Ferrari is also cyclical to a certain extent. Besides, Ferrari is a good inheritance: when I go in, I want my parents, siblings, etc. to look at the portfolio and see names they know.

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Dividenden@Rente@userc7b02065b8a7407b

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Political stock markets have short legs. I wouldn't make a decision on that alone

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Basti92@BavarianLion

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Ferrari will probably also find its way into my portfolio next week 👍

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SunriseRanger@SunriseRanger

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@BavarianLion soon in your garage 😁

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Basti92@BavarianLion

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@SunriseRanger To be honest, if I really had the money to buy one without it being a big financial burden, I'd do it in a heartbeat 🚀

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SunriseRanger@SunriseRanger

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@BavarianLion rede

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Basti92@BavarianLion

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@SunriseRanger Why not? For example, what's the point of having a 5 million deposit if I don't enjoy life? There's still a long way to go, but as I said, if I have enough money, why not? 🙂

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Pleni70@Pleni70

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$NOVO B is picking up again. I've always found the share interesting. I got in with 2 tranches and am now already up 17%. But yes, it takes time for a share to make up for a big loss.

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Chris@1Chrischi1

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i'm not completely out. my ek was just under €60 and we're still a long way off that.

i take a critical view of the punitive tariffs, maybe i'll buy something again if there's a good setback to get out of my minus. there's enough cash 😇

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Chris@1Chrischi1

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and i've had ferrari on my watchlist for a long time. it's just pure luxury. people who can afford one don't give a damn about inflation etc. there are simply always buyers 😌

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Smudo@Smudeo

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Ferrari (2026 P/E ratio: 32) is significantly cheaper.
However, Ferrari boasts an EBIT margin of around 29%, which speaks for the brand's exceptional pricing power and efficiency.
Whether the Italians' current multiples are justified in view of expected average EPS growth of 9% p.a. in the period 2026-2029 is questionable, however.

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Novo out - more Ferrari in.