Thanks for the message. At the moment I can't really assess the effects of such a merger.
I think the value of the German share could benefit, as the added value of T-Mobile would then be directly incorporated and visible. There may also be a few smaller synergy effects. On the negative side, however, I see the higher risk for the Group as a whole in terms of liability issues in the US market and the likely loss of the tax deferral on dividend payments from the German share.
I think the value of the German share could benefit, as the added value of T-Mobile would then be directly incorporated and visible. There may also be a few smaller synergy effects. On the negative side, however, I see the higher risk for the Group as a whole in terms of liability issues in the US market and the likely loss of the tax deferral on dividend payments from the German share.
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Valid consideration ... I was thinking along similar lines. In fact, I've held the majority of the shares for around €9 (2013/14) and have always been happy about the (at least initially) tax-free dividends. But similar to $FNTN, this can suddenly be completely over with such an action and then, of course, a sale hits tax.
Let's see if we still get a 4%+x dividend yield. It's not that far now.
@ALLEHas anyone had any experience of selling $DTE after a few years of dividends? How is the tax calculated then? e.g. LIFO vs. FIFO? Can you then offset against losses (which ones?)?
Valid consideration ... I was thinking along similar lines. In fact, I've held the majority of the shares for around €9 (2013/14) and have always been happy about the (at least initially) tax-free dividends. But similar to $FNTN, this can suddenly be completely over with such an action and then, of course, a sale hits tax.
Let's see if we still get a 4%+x dividend yield. It's not that far now.
@ALLEHas anyone had any experience of selling $DTE after a few years of dividends? How is the tax calculated then? e.g. LIFO vs. FIFO? Can you then offset against losses (which ones?)?
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@DatMischi_22 not with Telekom now, I was invested in $PBB years ago and there were also tax-free dividends, this was done according to the FiFo principle, and for this part according to the difference method, as I had also bought them from this broker at the time and he had all the cost prices. For the part that was sold, cost price minus tax-free dividend = new cost price. The selling price at cost price is a taxable gain if you sell at a profit, if you sell at a loss, it reduces the amount that can be offset against losses. If you no longer have reliable purchase prices with your current broker due to your long investment history and possibly several changes of broker, then the substitute assessment basis comes into play. This is then somewhat more complex and usually leads to incorrect accounting for tax purposes. This can usually be to your disadvantage. You need to look into this specifically. And in your case, when you bought in 2013, you can mentally deduct around €7.50 in dividends from your €9, which means your purchase price for tax purposes is €1.50, and with a share price of €23 today, let's say, that really hits you in terms of tax. If you still have an allowance or something in the loss pot, that part will be offset. You can do this step by step.
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