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My 4 most expensive everyday mistakes and how they have affected my life

1 - Listen to friends and relatives. Impact: low.


It's a bit of a mixed bag. Sometimes, of course, it makes sense to listen to people if they are competent in an area. The problem is that in some areas, friends and family tend to give well-intentioned tips but actually have no idea at all. A good example of this would be that as an old computer nerd, I always wanted a desktop PC as a teenager, but my mother told me that a laptop would be so much more practical and would have many advantages. The problem was that they always broke down and it was just far too expensive and inconvenient to repair them, as the components couldn't be replaced easily. And let's not even start with tips on investments and the savings bank.


--> My learning: If you're not completely clueless in an area, you shouldn't listen to well-intentioned advice, but have confidence in your own abilities.


2 - Shopping in physical stores. Impact: medium


This is probably the most controversial point in the whole list, but I have to say that I have often had very negative experiences with buying something in a store instead of ordering online. It often starts with the price itself - but then there are often hidden costs that you don't even see. A real-life example would be the recent purchase of my Apple Watch at the local electronics store (please refrain from joking at this point that the purchase itself was already a mistake).


First of all, the thing costs a little less online at one or the other retailer, so you basically pay around €35 extra for the pleasure of buying from a specialist retailer or in the Apple Store (which doesn't exist locally). Incidentally, the Telekom store would have charged another €20 above the list price, which would have increased the Premium to €55.


That's the part of the cost that you can see directly. However, the electronics store didn't have the right bundle of watch + wristband in its range, so I decided to buy the watch without the wristband without further ado, as I could simply reorder it later. What no one says, however, is that the desired strap costs €200 instead of €100 if you buy it separately from the watch. This means that the additional cost is already €135.


To top it all off, the store doesn't accept American Express payments, which means I have to leave another €10 in refunds.


This is a very specific example, but just one of many. Local retailers also like to put up with complaints despite defective goods and a receipt. Even when I suggested a compromise by accepting a credit note or repair, I was once told at Saturn "Nope, we don't see it. What's in it for us?" after which I never again entered a $CEC (+0.45%) shop again.


--> My learning: I'm really sorry to say, but if you don't want to run an honorary charity organization to preserve German jobs, it's better to buy online, where prices are transparent and complaints are automated and digital.


3 - Take the easy route. Impact: difficult


One of the easiest ways to lose a lot of money is to stay in your comfort zone. If you never ask for discounts and deals, book package tours without comparing prices, prefer to call a cab on vacation instead of dealing with how the subway system actually works, pay bills in restaurants without reading through to see if you actually ordered the items, you are simply as cooked as it gets.


So here are a few self-reflected points where I (almost) wasted a lot of money. Firstly, I'm serious about the restaurant. I recently stayed at a really fancy establishment for my birthday and celebrated with my girlfriend. Although we really only had a few snacks, the bill for both of us came to around €400. Being the cool guy that I am, I naturally kept a straight face despite having a massive heart attack and already had my credit card in my hand - until my girlfriend noticed that they had swapped our table and I almost paid someone else's bill. All because I didn't want to make a drama out of it.


Another case was that I once sold my car to the well-known and popular company "wir klauen dein Auto" and was massively spammed by them because they simply ended up giving me several thousand euros below their estimated selling price. The reason for this was that the company's own "expert" thought he had discovered some defects and accident damage that simply didn't exist, without providing any evidence. In the end, I had to accept the deal anyway because I had already bought another car and now urgently needed the liquidity and thought to myself "there's a really easy way to get rid of your used car here without having to advertise and negotiate". But $AG1 (+1.5%) only said: "Fiddlesticks.


(In addition, too little liquidity is probably already a serious problem in itself)


4 - The classic - not starting to invest as early as possible. Impact: massive


And here comes the point that should of course never be missing from such a list and which everyone has already seen coming. As I've often mentioned, I've been involved in investing and retirement planning for over 10 years, but I only actually started investing real money when I was 27.


My thought process behind this was simply that I would invest as soon as possible once I had finished my studies and was earning money, because otherwise it wouldn't be worth it anyway. And that assessment was simply a disaster.


It's true that I had hardly any assets or free cash flow as a student, but I wasn't as completely burnt out as some others. So let's say I could have scraped together €3000-5000 real money somehow. I also tried my hand at investing with demo accounts back then and mainly invested in shares that I knew. These included many German stocks, which I assumed at the time were already good because Germany was good (back then). For example, something like Lufthansa, Siemens and Deutsche Bank. Among others, however, there was also NVIDIA - which was already a household name for me back then. If I had somehow invested even a small sum of maybe €500 there at the time, it would have turned into well over €100k. And it was entirely my mistake to think that it was pointless to invest my small amounts if I could only save a small sum every month. Even with an ETF, it would have made a lot of sense to simply put €1000 into it and invest it 10 years earlier.


--> My learning: Education is still the most precious commodity. It was so right to get involved with the topic as early as possible - but then you also have to go from theory to practice. Instead of always being afraid that my modest assets in the custody account would fluctuate compared to the current account. I should have seen it more as no downfall if I lost money on the market in the absolute worst case, as I could earn it back in 2-3 months after graduation.

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Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I can agree on many points!

1. from my point of view, this is always a good idea:
Stay out of the financial affairs of friends and family in particular. No offers and no advice.
Even if I am explicitly asked for a tip, my answer is usually that you should educate yourself in order to help yourself.
When it comes to investments, the best advice I give is to go to $IWDA and even then I say: read up before you do anything.
Everything else leads to arguments.

There are experts in every field and you either pay these experts for their expertise or you have to live with the consequences if you don't do it.

2. here I also agree.
Maybe 10 years ago, my sister wanted a new laptop for surfing, for her browser games, for planting a garden, etc.
Just normal, simple things for which you don't need a performance monster.
So I went to the nearest Mediamarkt and thought I'd get an employee to show me the devices.
I'm not an IT nerd, but at least I know something about it.
So I told him my budget, the intended use and that it was for my sister.
Completely ignored, he led me to the mobile gaming machines from €2k upwards. I said several times that the thing wouldn't be used for gaming and that the budget wasn't there either.
As the gentleman was apparently only after his commission, I left the store and went to the nearby Saturn. Same game again.
Then again at MediMax. And the same thing happened again at Conrad.
So I got back in the car and ended up ordering a device from Amazon. I also saved over 10% on the price of the stationary retailer.

In the years that followed, I tried stationary retail again and again. Be it for furniture, carpeting, wood for furniture construction, wallpaper, etc.
Each time, they either tried to pull the wool over my eyes or didn't care what I wanted.
The fact that I save money in the process is a nice side effect.

(Not to mention the cases where people in stores have told me that there is no USB-C to jack, for example, or that there are no connectors or window ducts for satellite cables).

3. sometimes things like your experience in the restaurant are simply human error.
But often, like the provider with the annoying Ralf Schumacher commercial, they are also part of the business model.
I wanted to sell my mother's "old" Kia Carens because she was buying a new car but still wanted money for her old one.
Of course, our neighborhood dealers (I live near the Polish border) all had very nice prices, but they were primarily focused on their profits.
So I went to the named dealer on the Internet and got a quote.
The price was of course very good, although we had deliberately given the car a lower price than necessary.

On site, they then deducted "accident damage" that we had honestly stated online. (So something like the classic scratch on the rear fender from the shopping cart in the supermarket parking lot, etc.)
Well, then we drove off again without any discussion and ended up selling the car to a Berlin dealer who refurbished the car and then sold it in Eastern Europe.
They quoted a price, didn't negotiate for long and we got the cash on the claw.

I always find the price differences particularly glaring when traveling.
Same period, same hotel and same flights, but still 10-20% difference for the same services.

4. here I am personally somewhat ambivalent.
I myself started with smaller sums when I was 18, but as a student and self-employed person I naturally had to scrape together a lot of money to invest.
Sometimes it might have been better to "live" more.
Today I'm still in a similar position and almost 30.
My savings rate is quite decent, but I'm still trying to find a balance and just live, because we all have to die at some point and my big deposit won't be of any use to my family or anyone else in the end. Well, my heirs might be happy, but that shouldn't be the goal.

Incidentally, I invested far too much in penny stocks when I was young because I thought I was smarter than others. (Well, the bottom line is that I made a profit, but I still burned a lot of money. And in the end, I still think I'm smarter than most people...)

What I now clearly think, however, is that I should have paid much more attention to education when I was younger, instead of trying to make a killing on the stock market.
I only had a rough understanding of the whole thing, invested heavily in shares, options and derivatives, but honestly didn't understand many of the market mechanisms at all. Sometimes it was just more luck than sense.
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@Staatsmann Thank you for taking the trouble to write so much. It was really interesting to read and of course also very remarkable that you had similar experiences in many respects.

I can't add too much more, as I think everything important has already been said. The only point open to discussion is actually when and how much you should start to enjoy.

In any case, I lived quite spartanly in my early and mid-twenties and of course had to do so to some extent. But that was never really a problem because student life is somehow designed so that hardly anyone really has a lot of money but you still have fun together and do things together.

For the first few years in my job, I was also quite stingy and didn't live very much and concentrated very one-sidedly on feeding the savings plan. In the meantime, however, I've become more relaxed now that I've crossed an important psychological threshold in my portfolio. I'm still often reluctant to spend money, but now and again I treat myself to unnecessary luxuries such as a nice vacation or the aforementioned smartwatch, which would have been unthinkable in the past. I certainly haven't found the perfect balance yet, but I'm evolving ^^
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@Soprano It very much depends on the individual circumstances, but where is your "psychologically important depot limit", if you don't mind me asking?

50k? 100k? 500k? 1million?

All basically comfortable sums as a cushion. ☺️
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@Sunrise-Mantis For me, it was the 100k that I cracked for the first time I think 1 year ago, and I've posted something about it before. From then on I realized that it's somehow much more relevant whether the President of the USA posts something funny that day than whether I buy the branded yoghurt or the discount product 😂👍🏼
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Mistakes that others have made: Waiting for a correction and falling flat on your face $ISRG
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This is funny. Number 2 and 3 are contradicting in a way. You want to shop online and don't be a charity for German jobs, but got f*cked over when trading in your car via an online reseller.

Don't get me wrong, I get your idea, but the morale of the story is that there is a time and place to use certain services, and that you are in your own control of your money and should be wary of how it is spend.
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@Baklapverkoper I see where you are coming from but on a detailed level they are not quite the same thing. I said to be wary of going the easy way. When attempting to sell your car all they do online is giving you a bait offer. The fking over still happens in a stationary retail location. It’s just an expansion of the GameStop business model of getting your stuff for almost free - they just added to give you a decent estimate on their website before.
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Awesome post 👍🏼
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Nice post, thank you. A question on the subject of vacations, how or where do you book trips to save money?
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@financial_ninja_psqcv My personal experience is that you should stay away from Booking, Holidaycheck or something like Expedia.

I personally book package tours alternately via Urlaubspiraten, Urlaubsguru and even Check24.

In my experience, travel agencies are always considerably more expensive, regardless of whether they are tied or "free" agencies.
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@financial_ninja_psqcv Thank you! For example, on my last trip (to Asia) I found that it's cheaper not to book package tours. I usually booked a bundle of flight, accommodation and hotel transfer directly via $TUI.

For me, however, it was several hundred euros cheaper to book the flight directly via the airline, hotel via Booking or hotel website and transfer spontaneously on site (via Grab).

Of course, there are more options for each of the three components and I think it's really worth the effort to take the time to weigh up the options, especially if you're traveling with someone.
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Somehow it's a bit twisted:
1. communicating with friends always makes sense. At least if you have someone in front of you who is further along the path. If you listen to people, such as bank advisors, who have less than you do, you are of course disappointed.

2) It depends. Sometimes it's cheaper to really look at it in the store and it may also be cheaper then. If you don't spend too much. It depends.

3. car sold online by scammers? Yes, you should avoid it.

4. education costs. So better to stay stupid and invest everything.
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If it makes you feel any better, I sold them a "broken" car for it without them noticing ;) Who buys a car without taking it for a test drive? oO

I would add an important point to the list: Anti-investing, or buying stuff on credit. Sure, buying a property or a car is difficult without it, but Klarna here, installment purchase there and you're already paying money for nothing.
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@devnerd_daddy Hahahaha I just had to laugh out loud in real life. I think that's brilliant. What exactly was broken? Just too cool.

And that's right, the point is of course true. However, this is a list of things that I had to learn "through pain" myself. I actually knew not to buy anything with borrowed money as a child, which is why I never burned my own fingers that way :D
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@Soprano My car had lost a massive amount of oil and I had to have the damage repaired. Problem: Not all Ford components are equipped with sensors and the car was running, but as soon as the engine warmed up it went into emergency mode. Switching it off and on again briefly solved the problem, but only for a few kilometers.

My trusted garage mechanic, who was already having problems with the oil repair, then honestly said that he would have to take the whole car apart again. So disconnect parts, check, reconnect, next part, etc., a monstrous amount of hours, because one of the many coolant pumps was probably not in order.

So I drove to WKDA as slowly as I could and they just started the engine and let it run. But that doesn't warm it up. They also rated the oil change as "checkbook maintained" and I had a lot of money in my pocket for a car that would probably have cost me mid to high four-figure sums.

My wife and I still laugh about the story today, even though it was over two years ago.

Fun fact: I took the surplus money and instantly paid off a relatively expensive renovation loan because I was able to finance the replacement vehicle at 0%. 🥳
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@devnerd_daddy Fantastic story, it really made my day today, thank you :D
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Biggest mistake: letting bank employees do their job. End up full of building society savings contracts and expensive funds that do semi-well.
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Re 1 - You could have listened to one or the other on this point and bought notebooks that have a decent level of quality - especially at the present time - then the notebooks will last forever (Thinkpads, for example) and can be repaired and upgraded. Take Lenovo, for example, where every Thinkpad comes with a hardware maintenance manual. It costs more, but so does quality.

Apart from that, I agree with you, it's never wrong to have your own thoughts.
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@StrahlemannLP Where exactly did you find out which brands the notebooks were from? Maybe I did that.
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@Soprano I'm a computer scientist and have been doing this for decades, which is exactly why I have a feel for whether someone has bought junk from MediaMarkt (from recent experience, I also include Macbooks and Precisions from Dell) or whether what they say is what is to be expected. My employer pays my salary for precisely this ability to read between the lines.
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Nice example of anecdotal evidence. Listened to mom when buying a computer? Wrong bill in a restaurant? An online provider who rips you off? And then it's better to buy everything online? Of course.
But point four is correct, even if 15 years ago it was not foreseeable that the manufacturer of graphics cards would make such a massive profit.
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@Gamat It used to be called "life experience", university really has completely destroyed some people
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I'm sorry for you...
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