A BTC investment that falls to its knees when stocks also fall to their knees is pointless

Wolfgang · 2025-04-16T13:45:20.726021Z

$BTC It is currently becoming clear why Bitcoin is not an investment but a casino. While my 40% gold, 60% broadly diversified equities portfolio is still in the black, BTC is falling to its knees just like equities. Why do I need such an "investment" that correlates with shares and consists of digital nothing for the darknet in my portfolio?

Stefan21@stefan_21

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Finally someone is saying it!
Peter Schiff recognized this back in 2011. Anyone who listened to him back then and bought gold instead of Bitcoin can count themselves lucky. After all, the digital number series correlate with shares.

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PaulPK@PaulPK

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@stefan_21 Sarcasm? 🤣

📈 Performance in comparison (2011-2025)
Bitcoin (BTC):

In 2011, the Bitcoin price was around 1 US dollar.

By November 2021, the price had risen to an all-time high of around 69,000 US dollars.

At the end of 2022, the price fell to below USD 20,000.

By the end of 2023, the price had recovered to around USD 42,000.

In April 2025, the Bitcoin price was around 64,000 US dollars.

Overall, this corresponds to an increase in value of over 6,000,000% since 2011. However, this enormous return is accompanied by high volatility.

Gold:

In 2011, gold reached a high of around 1,900 US dollars per ounce.

Between 2012 and 2015, the price fell to around 1,050 US dollars.

Since then, the price of gold has risen continuously.

In April 2025, the price of gold was around USD 3,339 per ounce.
Coinmetro
Macrotrends

This corresponds to a total increase of around 112% over the period from 2011 to 2025.

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Stefan21@stefan_21

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@PaulPK yes of course sarcasm😅
I don't understand why so many gold investors are so wary of Bitcoin. They understand the properties of gold and they understand that our financial system is broken. Many are also still followers of the Austrian school.
But Bitcoin, which fulfills all these characteristics better than gold, is consistently rejected.
While they look back on 5000 years of gold's establishment as a store of value, they pick out a time horizon of a few days to weeks to criticize Bitcoin.

The fact that gold usually falls first in crises before it rises again because people panic and want cash is completely ignored.
The fact that Bitcoin is not yet fully understood by the market due to its short history and therefore behaves as a risk-on asset, which it actually is not, is also ignored.

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“Klaatu_Barada_Nikto!“@Ash

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You don't need it. It's all Ponzi and Ponzi schemes! #safetyfirst

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Ayecaramba@Ayecaramba256

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Lost his father

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Vinc3🚀@BlockBard

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My BTC has the most upside, and now?

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SatsStacker@SatsStacker

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Well, Bitcoin has performed very well so far, so wayne. :P
Fiat, on the other hand, is continuously losing value due to inflation.
In short, saving in Bitcoin seems to have been better than saving in fiat so far.

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Timo@Aktienorang-Utan

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Wolfgang you are absolutely right, the system is as simple as casino. #joke

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Linus@Kapitalismuspur

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Wolfgang, if we Bitcoiners are all driving Porsches in 10 years' time, please don't be surprised 😉

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TotallyLost@TotallyLost

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@Kapitalismuspur However, I wouldn't be surprised if you distributed interm REWE BJ 🤣

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Schöbi@schoebi

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@TotallyLost some people are already driving to REWE in their Porsche... for and again. To each his own....

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Horrax D@Horrax

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Maybe bonds are more for you? They have proven their worth over many decades if you want to invest in something that is less correlated with equities.

I don't really understand why that should be the reason not to invest in $BTC.

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Emi@Emi__

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These are very good and valid arguments. Sell all your Bitcoins now?

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Franz@Cyonix

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Are shares then also Ponzi?🧐
Those who get in early (and preferably promote them via an Instagram channel) will benefit the most

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DanielH@DHsslr

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So I'm up triple digits with BTC 😉

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Fredi K.@equity_expert_1695

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How all Bitcoin disciples simply feel directly attacked 😂

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Rendite Rudin@RenditeRudin

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That is the most unqualified statement I have ever heard

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Wolfgang@goebi22

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As you can see in a crisis like this, Bitcoin actually fulfills the requirements much worse than gold.

I've been up triple digits with gold for 8 years. And that is sustainable. Bitcoin could lose 50% of its value tomorrow if Trump gets even more stupid and nobody knows why

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Emi@Emi__

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@stefan

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Alpalaka@Alpalaka

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Well, you need it for the return, for example.
Or why did you invest your money?

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“Klaatu_Barada_Nikto!“@Ash

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@Alpalaka Nein!

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Alpalaka@Alpalaka

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@Ash Doch

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“Klaatu_Barada_Nikto!“@Ash

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@Alpalaka Oh!

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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024

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Bitcoin also needs a correction from time to time.

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Golden Boy@randomdude

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Both and instead of either or 😘

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bull_investor_vkmhk@bull_investor_vkmhk

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I see it exactly the same way. Currency of criminals and die-hard fans. Not for me. Of course, I don't begrudge anyone who makes capital here.

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Invesdos@Invesdos

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I think to myself: Don't be unsettled - stack sats, target at least 1BTC

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Sascha1976@Sascha1976

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Phew Wolfgang, you don't seem to have really got to grips with BTC in particular and crypto in general. But never mind, since you're not invested, enjoy gold and leave it at that

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Maxi@mhu

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Ok Wolfgang

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