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Coffee ETCs

Hello Community,


My question is aimed at the commodity pros among you.


While filling up my fully automatic coffee machine in the evening, I had an interesting thought:


Are there any coffee ETCs with a physical delivery option? Or are all the ones available on the market exclusively on a futures basis? @Epi Do you know anything?


I get dizzy every time I have to put a kilo of coffee beans in the trolley when I go shopping for the week and have wondered whether I could somehow get the feeling of "saving in advance" with an investment of this kind and then also have the coffee delivered to my home.


Maybe one or two of you here have some real insights that will help me (or can at least smile briefly at my not entirely serious question😉).


So: fill me up with your knowledge, I'm all ears👂.


$COFF (-1.67%)
$LCFE (-3.24%)
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I also want a chocolate ETC with delivery option. 😅
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Where Döner-ETC? 😭
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If you want delivery of your coffee investment, you have to buy futures. If you have one of them delivered, you'll have about 17 tons of coffee in front of your house. 😅
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@Epi such a mess.😩 So rent a warehouse beforehand.🤷🏼‍♂️ Or put something absurd in the depot like $SBUX in sufficient quantities so that the overpriced coffee shop can finance my consumption via the dividend.🤔 Whereby perhaps rather $BROS they are bros after all.🤣
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@All-in-or-nothing First World Finance Bubble Problems. 😭
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@Epi If everything is in a bubble, it's not a bubble!
or simply Everything Bubble, haha!
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@ichmussweg I actually meant the Getquin financial bubble. 😅
But it's possible that some people recognize bubbles everywhere 😉.
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@Epi Haha, yes, that makes sense! We're definitely in a bubble here.
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@ichmussweg Where did you think they were seriously considering cheaper morning coffee by delivering a coffee future? 😂
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Is there also a 🍊-ETF with a delivery option? 🤔
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The interesting question is: what kind of coffee do you buy that you perceive as expensive?

Isn't it part of being a good investor to find good value coffee?

I had a few tips 😉
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@ichmussweg well, sensible coffee as a whole bean does have its price.🤷🏼‍♂️

However, the price development of the last few years is really extreme, from the end consumer's point of view (without investor background and market understanding) one would certainly be even more extremely annoyed.

I'm happy to take tips, keep them coming.😉
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@All-in-or-nothing
I grew up in a household that consumed Melitta coffee, ground. Brrrr

Then I moved to the big city. Here the hippies drink "Third-Wafe-Coffee" from the local roaster for 14-18 EUR per 250g gram. With notes of white peach and tonka bean - crazy

A clear recommendation - for people who have a Rossmann nearby:
https://www.rossmann.de/de/lebensmittel-fairista-espresso-ganze-bohnen/p/4251455299600

Fair, integrative roasting company, quality at the level of local roasters or the online mail order company ála Coffee Circle. With a 10% voucher (which is always available at Rossmann), you're just over €20 per kilo. That's not much more than you pay for highly industrially produced 0815 coffee from the big well-known brands.

If you think about how good chocolate has developed in terms of price, that's absolutely fair!
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@ichmussweg That sounds great, I'll keep that in mind and I'll make sure to bag it the next time I visit the Rossmann store around the corner.👌🏻

Thanks for the great tip.🙏🏻
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@All-in-or-nothing I'm always trying new things too. What have you bought in the past?
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@ichmussweg Speicherstadt, Elbgold, Speicher & Consorten, Café Intencion (Budnikowsky), Lavazza. So of course I'm already shopping in the high-price segment per se, so your tip is really worth its weight in gold.😉
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@All-in-or-nothing I used to buy Café Intencion too. The other varieties sound like something from the north, which is not available here!

But with the varieties mentioned, I can see why it got a bit expensive for you. My favorite chocolate (Gepa Grand Noir) used to cost 2.19€ or 2.29€. Now we're at 3.5-4€ for a 100g bar, which is over 40%. But here, too, I am looking for similarly good alternatives that are not so expensive.
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@ichmussweg is also north 😉 Manufactory roasteries in Hamburg.

To be honest, Café Intencion was the one I was most dissatisfied with in terms of taste for the price. But I'll definitely give your tip a try.

Unfortunately, cocoa is similar to coffee. Both are quite climate-sensitive and weather-sensitive plants, where it will certainly continue to be problematic in the future with periods of extreme weather, crop failures or loss of quality.
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I can recommend an extremely good coffee, which is expensive but cheaper than comparable coffees, so give it a try. I've already tried a few things. Nothing comes close:

https://share.google/bgXN7pNtkh8CS9Drp
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@Mats-Invest Thanks for the tip. 100% Arabica! It's often a tad too fruity for me - I like the little Robusta ditch!
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I can highly recommend Kaffee Timm in Hamburg-Bergedorf. A fair-value bean, especially if you pour it into a fully automatic machine.
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