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Securing your finances: How to protect your money from nursing home costs

Is the establishment of a Treuhandverwaltung or Stiftung a good alternative for you?


  • Moving into a care home: how much money can you keep?
  • When do your children have to pay?
  • How can you protect your assets?



There are various options and ways to ensure that you avoid spending your assets on care costs
spend costs. We explain how you can stay financially secure and how you can make targeted provisions so that your money is not touched by third parties in old age.


How much money can you keep?

Currently, a Pflegeplatz in Deutschland 2610 euros per monthafter deduction of subsidies. Je nach Pflegegrad und Pflegestufe können sich die Kosten erheblich unterscheiden - und auch die Zuschüsse. The costs are rising every year and are becoming an increasing burden for many families. To finance the care costs, you can private assets can be used to finance can be used to finance care costs. But only up to a so-called "protective assets limit".

For single people, this is 10,000 eurosmarried couples are allowed to double the amount keep twice this amount. In addition to this real estate is also protected as long as a spouse or relative lives there.

In addition, the protected assets are taken into account: Funds to carry out an appropriate funeral, for example 7500 euros in a death benefit insurance policycapital in the Riester-Rente or for an appropriate household and family heirlooms or work equipment


When do your children have to pay?

Your pension is always used first to pay your care costs. pension is always used first. Only if this is insufficient will the state use your savings. If this is not enough, then they look at the income of your children will be looked at. Relatives have been relieved since 2020: Children only have to pay maintenance for their own parents, wenn das Bruttoeinkommen pro Jahr eine entsprechende Summe übersteigt. Children's savings or property remain unaffected.

Care costs are only covered by the state if neither income nor assets are sufficientto cover the costs and no children can be involved. In these cases, the "Hilfe zur Pflege". Sinnvoll kann auch eine zusätzliche Pflegeversicherung sein.

An exampleYou have a monthly income of 1200 euros from your pension. After a fall, you are admitted to a nursing home and the care costs amount to 3500 euros per month. The care insurance pays a subsidy of 1500 euros. This results in a own contribution of 2000 euros. Your pension will now be fully offset against the care costs, leaving a remaining sum of 800 euros. However, you only have 8000 euros in your accountwhich is below the already asset limit of 10,000 euros is. In addition, you have no other realizable assets, such as a property. As you also do not have a child with an income of more than 100,000 euros per year, you can "Help with care" from the social welfare office. This will cover the remaining 800 Euro per month.

How can you protect your assets?

To protect yourself from care costs, it is advisable to early transfer of assets is one of the most common strategies. However, please note that gifts can still be reclaimed up to ten years after the transfer can still be reclaimed if care costs are incurred.

This means that you can transfer all of your money to your children above the minimum asset limit and if you only enter a care home ten years later, the care insurance fund will cover the costs. However, your assets are then in the hands of your children, who are free to make their own decisions. Another method is to foundation of a Treuhandverwaltung or Stiftung. This option is particularly suitable if you have large assets, such as works of art, investments or real estate. property. You transfer your assets to a foundation and they are managed permanently by the foundation so that they can no longer be used for private purposes, not even by the authorities.

With a trust, you transfer your assets to a trustee who manages them on your behalf. manages it on your behalf. Legally, the money remains with you, but a trust agreement protects it from unwanted access, for example a claim for care costs.

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It's a sad thought that you save and invest your whole life just to pay for a few years of care later ... makes you think and frustrates you at the same time somehow
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@Max095 I just had exactly the same thought!
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@Max095 I think that will often be the case. In this case, the person who has taken precautions will be punished. Better you have nothing and the taxpayer pays
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@Tenbagger2024 I have the same thought. Performance is becoming less and less worthwhile
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@Max095 I see it the same way. Those who work in Germany, think for themselves and take good care of themselves will only lose out and end up with less than those who haven't lifted a finger. Very sad.

I think Germany should take more inspiration from Norway.
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@pharao50 but in the end I don't think things will get any better with the CDU. At least as far as the middle class is concerned. Even if economic policy should improve, but it's probably not an art, because it can't get much worse.
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@Tenbagger2024 I see it that way too. At the moment, I really don't see politics "improving" in the next few years. I myself wouldn't know who to vote for in the next few moons. It's all nothing to me.
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@pharao50 I don't want to get too political here. Otherwise it would turn into a novel. But it is an important topic. Of course, economic policy is a big issue for us as investors. But when it comes to economic policy, as investors we can choose the country and the companies. But good economic policy in your own country also means prosperity. But here I increasingly have the impression that this prosperity is no longer reaching the majority of people and is fizzling out somewhere up there. That's why I find the topic of social policy not entirely unimportant.
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@Tenbagger2024 I can only agree with you.
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@Max095 As a family, we are going through all of this from start to finish. The person two rooms away, who has never taken precautions or looked after their health, receives the same benefits as my relative right from the start.

Does the fact that my relative has to have used up their assets up to the protected assets before social welfare takes over mean that they have gold-edged diapers?

No, of course not.
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@Ash Yes well, certainly a long topic. Perhaps a distinction should also be made here. How many people receive social welfare in old age and have their care paid for as a result. Even though you have worked hard all your life. But because of their education/training, they never had the opportunity to make provisions. Because it was just enough to live on. This shows us that we have reached our limits. Even in a social market economy like Germany. I don't even want to talk about the USA, otherwise I'd be in tears. People digging through the garbage and struggling to survive every day. Many of them can no longer afford an apartment from their work and live in their cars or caravans.
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There is perhaps a third, better solution: unit-linked life insurance. In short: you pay in amount X, let ETFs run, transfer everything to your child, who may only pay out the amount when you are dead. This saves inheritance tax and prevents the authorities from accessing the capital.

I could perhaps write an article about this if you are interested.
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@Epi
Gladly, sounds interesting and is sure to be well received
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@Epi With pleasure, I look forward to your comments
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Gladly, sounds interesting
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@Epi Also interested in further information
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Also with practical tips on how to manage the part with the child.
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@Epi Okay, guys. I'm not an insurance expert and need to familiarize myself with the subject matter first. Let's see how I can fit it in between all my other projects.
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I am also very interested! Thanks for the push in advance.
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@Epi With pleasure
Gerne! 👍🏻
Silly question: Why should the general public pay for someone who still has enough money? In addition, access to the children (and control of their income/assets) is added to this if you withdraw from the whole thing. Isn't the point of investing not to be dependent on state aid and handouts until the end? Especially since as soon as the social security fund is involved, it is also over with any trips etc. that would also be quite possible from the retirement home.
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@Madhatter5566 Thank you, interesting explanation. What would be the alternative if the welfare state didn't help? Anyone can very quickly find themselves in need through no fault of their own.
@Tenbagger2024 That's what the state is actually there for. And the taxes and so on. Which is a good thing. But to hide your assets and then languish as a poor pensioner, because that's all you have when you're out of money, just sounds strange. To put it briefly, the only thing you have money for at that age is to either live well or pass it on to someone else. Your relatives will no doubt be pleased to receive a letter from the social security funds asking them to disclose their finances. Or having to pay while there is actually money there.
And you yourself will be happy if you are only given a bit of hand money.

What's more, all your options mean that the money is gone if you're unlucky. Because it's looked after by others. Ingenious. Especially when caregivers or greedy relatives come along who can then always say: He's poor.
(I even experienced this with an aunt who was kept poor by her carers. No trips. No parties. And with 200k left over).
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@Madhatter5566 I think the whole thing is really a big issue for everyone. And in the discussion I realize that it's not easy to find the right solution.
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I only partially agree. So if you have 300k or more later on anyway, then you should use up your savings before the state steps in. But some people may only have been able to save 30k. Sounds very little, but if you don't have a high income, you can't save more. That's why it's unfair that these people then have to spend their hard-saved money. So it doesn't make sense to save for 30 years if you have a low five-figure income. It's better to spend it directly or have so much that you don't need the state anyway.
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@Tothemoon99 and why exactly should we now make a distinction between someone who has saved 300k and can no longer spend it and someone who has only saved 30k and has squandered the rest? Then you would have to penalize the destitute because they chose it themselves or draw the distinction between the possibilities of everyone. Is someone who could have saved but didn't do so different from someone who only earned poorly? What about those who were simply lazy at school, i.e. fell short of their potential?
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Important topic
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Just went through everything with a relative who had to go into a home with care level 5...
Good contribution 👍🏼
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@Ash We are all getting older and older. And I think care costs will continue to rise over the next few years
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@Tenbagger2024 In the case of my relative, the monthly contribution currently amounts to EUR 3,500. The assets are currently being used up to the protected assets limit, but social assistance has already been applied for, as processing can take months, involving a lot of back and forth and the exchange of countless paper documents. This made me/us realize once again how little digital our offices and authorities are and how much precious time is lost as a result.
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@Ash oh yes, sounds like a banana republic
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@Tenbagger2024 Yes, especially if someone tells you to go to the website and download the .pdf, fill it out and send it back to us, and then find out:

The document cannot be filled out on the computer and there is a note that it must be printed out and sent in by mail. Scans by email are not possible. 🙈
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@Ash I believe that many old people are simply overwhelmed. And in the end they don't make any applications and therefore give away money. Could that perhaps be a reason why everything is made so complicated?
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@Tenbagger2024 I can only say that if we as relatives/family did not support the spouse here, it would look really bad. That it is made so complicated so that as few applications as possible are made? I hope not and think that it is simply the excesses of the system that have grown over the years and have never been reformed.
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@Ash The whole system would collapse if there weren't already so many volunteers. Who are there for care and those in need of help. Relatives who provide care themselves and are hardly paid for it. And perhaps later slip into poverty themselves as a result. It cannot be emphasized enough and a big compliment to all Ehrenamtler❤️👏.
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@Ash what? My mother is in a care home with care level 4 and the bill is 1200 euros a month.
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@Madhatter5566 I can only answer that with a "what".
@Ash Yes, why is your own contribution so high? The home costs 3k for her and a large part of that is still covered by care insurance
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Which is cheaper: setting up a foundation (incl. notary costs etc.) or private supplementary long-term care insurance (approx. €100 per month)?

That is probably the decisive question.
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@Epi The report says that a foundation is worthwhile if you have large assets. You can do some research
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@Tenbagger2024 I had thought about setting up a foundation in my context, now childless rather than nursing, to save my assets from the state. Initial discussions were rather sobering. The foundation itself is manageable, but then "in operation" it's a bit too complicated, and my/our 2 million assets aren't really enough for it to pay off properly. I have an appointment with my bank's asset management department on the 20th and they are presenting a concept for asset protection. I'm curious to see what suggestions they come up with and what the costs are.
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@Dividendenopi That's great, then the report fits very well. Perhaps you haven't yet considered the topic from a care perspective in quite the same way. If so, please keep us up to date. I can see from the 👍that even some people are interested. Perhaps you should also provide more detailed information about trusts and foundations. Advantages and disadvantages etc.
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@Tenbagger2024 Stop with the care perspective. My sister last, my father-in-law over 3 years..... the topic is so over with me. 🙄😬
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@Dividendenopi I'm very sorry to hear that, so it's good that you're taking part in the discussion and not suppressing the issue. For me as a single person, it would be worth considering emigrating to a less expensive country if I need care. Of course, the question here is to what extent this needs to be planned in advance. But in the end I also say to myself "The shirt has no pockets". Maybe you should think about donating everything to children in advance.
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Super contribution on a very important topic 👍🏻
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Therefore, at least in his 50s, he can already live partly from dividends and work part-time than wait until retirement 😂

But in this respect, men actually have an "advantage" - significantly more women make it into retirement/nursing homes 😂
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@Simpson
Thank you my dear. You are a great role model
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Thank you for your contribution. It's a very important topic :)
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Great article and important topic! The only thing that's not quite right is the spouse's property. In many cases, if one spouse goes into a nursing home and the property is too big for the spouse who has stayed "at home", it has to be sold or rented out. You also have to pay attention to the right of residence; I currently have to pay a very high sum before the costs are covered due to a right of residence for life. We didn't pay attention to the clause that the right of residence expires when we move out.

There are so many pitfalls, but it's always a good idea to think things through in the family beforehand. Stay healthy.
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I hope to have enough capital by then and to stay healthy for a long time so that I can pay for care from my pension, long-term care insurance and capital without my wealth suffering massively. I don't want to suddenly be living at the expense of the general public in old age (okay, as a civil servant with a pension, that's relative; but at least I've earned the right to it beforehand).

The roughest part is covered by long-term care insurance and long-term care supplement (4&5).

Otherwise, I hope to have an inflation-adjusted capital of over 1 million by then. As things stand today at 31, I have 1/10 of that. That should be enough to ensure that inheritances don't go out with 0 and that I hopefully have to make do with the minimum when it comes to care. The most important resource for me is to stay healthy for as long as possible. You can't always influence that, but you can try.
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Let's imagine the other side of the coin. Everyone would put their assets aside early. In order to have later care financed by the state. Then the state, or rather the community of solidarity, the taxpayer, would have a problem. To a certain extent, our children would then have to pay for these costs again in the form of exploding contributions. Do we really want that?
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@Tenbagger2024 Tscha. Costs are always incurred. All you achieve by shifting them is a redistribution. Personally, I am in favor of the polluter pays principle
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It's also an issue for us at the moment.
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@trade_visionary_555 Hello dear, I think you only deal with it when the time comes. I hope you find a good solution.
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What happens legally to assets (several properties) that are held in a limited partnership?
The parents, one/both of whom are in need of care, and two children are partners in this Gbr.
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I find it absolutely inhumane to milk people until their last breath. I would actually rather shoot myself than go to a home like that. This once again shows the heartless coldness in this highly praised state where we supposedly have it so good.
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@Soprano My dear fellow, even though I am an investor myself. I think that in healthcare it is often also a problem for the private sector. Which at the end of the day wants to earn enough from these old people.
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@Soprano In your opinion, what's wrong with a good home where you can be reasonably well looked after? I think the main problem is exactly your attitude: stay at home for as long as you can, whatever that means, and then move into a home when you have real problems. How many people fall over at home, which is only noticed a few days later and then they are transferred to the home as vegetables. Where it is then too late to decide for yourself how you live there and where you live. In my opinion, people go into a home far too late or realize that they can no longer do it themselves.
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@Madhatter5566 Do you believe that you magically become healthier in a home, or how do I understand that? If home care is no longer possible, then that's the end of the day. Then I don't need a grandpa prison that I have to pay for myself. If you at least fall over, you can still do something with a living will. But if you slowly deteriorate beyond a certain point, that would be bad.
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@Tenbagger2024 Well, the private sector just wants to earn money. In my view, that is a legitimate concern. I'm more annoyed with the state, which creates the framework.

Ultimately, I can always understand anyone who abuses the system that has been created or uses it to their own advantage. But I think it's a mess that nothing is being done about it. Do you know what I mean?
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@Soprano No. But that many people overestimate their own home and their "they have to manage on their own without help" and end up ruining their health. Precisely because of the opinion that the home is a huge problem. Assisted living would help many people.

Do you think you have more self-determination if you look for a place early on when you're in full possession of your mental faculties or when you've had a stroke and spent three days lying in your room and a legal guardian is looking for something for you?
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@Madhatter5566 How do you mess up your health by living alone? I still don't understand it. And it's just a huge problem if I have to pay huge prices to live a life that's not worth living for me. I somehow lack any goal in life.

If I'm already expecting a stroke, I'd rather write an advance directive saying that I don't want to be resuscitated under any circumstances. As I said, someone can come and help me with the housework etc. but a nursing home is out of the question for me.
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@Sopreano I think there should be many more alternatives here in which the private sector or the state are not involved. Like a multi-generational house where everyone takes care of each other. Or if you belong to a denomination, then you pay a lot of church tax, so I don't think Caritas or Diakonie should earn anything from people who have always paid church tax.
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@Soprano What I mean is exactly that... It's not incredibly expensive and it's also not incredibly stupid, for example, to live in assisted living instead of somehow living on your own. And no, your decree won't help you at all if the stroke or fall happens at home... Most people just lie around for a while before anyone notices. Because relatives don't always drop by. And then it's not about being revived but that help comes too late to avoid late damage. All things that could be avoided if people weren't always full of fear of assisted living. And that happens again and again. Not to mention the fact that if you decide to do it yourself and you're still in your right mind, you can arrange a lot of things properly. In contrast to when the caregiver does it for you :)

I have two cases in my family where a stroke and three days of living at home led to aphasia and paralysis. Glorious. Then you can no longer talk about self-determination. All because *home is evil*
@Tenbagger2024 At what expense are those who have irrational fears of professional help cared for? By the other generation at their expense?
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Thank you first! Do you know what the situation is with life insurance? My father is retiring soon and a sum (one-off payment) will be transferred to him. Can he theoretically enter me, his child, as the beneficiary so that I receive the amount? Or does this also count as a gift and would have to be repaid in the event of care?
@Tothemoon99 Why shouldn't that be a gift?
But with parents you have quite high tax-free allowances every 10 years (if I remember correctly)
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@Eggplant The sum in question is quite low, but if it has to be used for later care anyway, then there's no point in having paid for 25 years ...
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It is unsound not to pay for it yourself.
What is it like for small landlords? With just a few units and a good job, they should be able to earn €7500 gross...
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It's actually so cheeky that as a child I have to pay money to a parent who has avoided maintenance payments as soon as I earn 100k p.a. or more. Especially in view of the lack of inflation adjustment of the amount, it really sucks.
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What am I saving for if not so that I can afford the best care? Makes zero sense to me..... The first thing I save for is my needs. The children are grown up, they can take care of themselves. I'll never understand....
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