Not dividend bashing again đĽą
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â˘@Banana_Millionaire Not dividend bashing. Dividends are a fine automatic de-investment option. Bashing the belief that dividends somehow magically create money: Yes!
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â˘@Madhatter5566 sorry, that's just as stupid as your original text. Who are you trying to convince that this isn't dividend bashing? Yourself? At least you seem to have succeeded in that.
I wouldn't even know where to start commenting on your text.
But I do agree with you on one point: dividends are not free money. Just as the second bar in twix is not free. In this world nothing is really for free, everything comes with pros and cons.
But I know that you want to take that as an endorsement of your text, but that's probably because of something else.
I wouldn't even know where to start commenting on your text.
But I do agree with you on one point: dividends are not free money. Just as the second bar in twix is not free. In this world nothing is really for free, everything comes with pros and cons.
But I know that you want to take that as an endorsement of your text, but that's probably because of something else.
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â˘@Eggplant Since there are enough people here who think it's free money....
I have nothing against dividends. They're just not what some illusionary people here say they are. I know I'm hurting feelings. Dividend snowballs, like cryptobros, are a thin-skinned species because they don't have the math on their side.
I have nothing against dividends. They're just not what some illusionary people here say they are. I know I'm hurting feelings. Dividend snowballs, like cryptobros, are a thin-skinned species because they don't have the math on their side.
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@Madhatter5566 Sorry, but that's bullshit from people who drink water and drink wine. I'll take the time to take a closer look at your main text later.
It's also interesting that you claim the math isn't on the side of dividend strategists. I can tell you that for me it makes 0 difference whether the dividend is distributed or reinvested.
It's also interesting that you claim the math isn't on the side of dividend strategists. I can tell you that for me it makes 0 difference whether the dividend is distributed or reinvested.
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â˘@Eggplant Because there is no effect of the dividend on your growth. Correct... dividend out and in is net zero. Or a slight loss thanks to tax and trading costs and the spread on reinvestment.
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@Madhatter5566 Dein Textverständnis geht leider gegen 0, nochmal ganz llangsam und extra fßr dich zum mitdenken:
Die Kosten ausschĂźttenden ETF vs. thesaurierender ETF sind fĂźr mich identisch und das Haarespalten bezgl. Spread ignoriere ich an dieser Stelle.
Die Kosten ausschĂźttenden ETF vs. thesaurierender ETF sind fĂźr mich identisch und das Haarespalten bezgl. Spread ignoriere ich an dieser Stelle.
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â˘@Eggplant? Just compare the same etfs that pay out once and accumulate once. There are a few worldetfs from the same providers, for example. The distributing ones always perform worse in terms of total return. Always. That means you're wrong.
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@Eggplant Xtrackers world without dividends 244.50% from 14.08.2014.
Xtrackers dividend msci world 123% from 17.04.20215. The latter still has a dividend of 1.6% per year and started one year later. Doesn't make up for a 120% yield difference. Too lazy to do the math now.
Xtrackers dividend msci world 123% from 17.04.20215. The latter still has a dividend of 1.6% per year and started one year later. Doesn't make up for a 120% yield difference. Too lazy to do the math now.
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â˘@Madhatter5566 Come on, it's the combination that does it. Not everyone is a private investor and has the time to focus solely on managing their investments. It certainly always makes sense to invest in such a way that you get the best outcome for yourself.
Personally, I do both... growth stocks and crypto to generate cash and distributing ETFs into which I pump some of it, as they are managed but pay out without any hassle. Of course, I also hold larger dividend positions, which simply make more sense for me in percentage terms and not just 2% in a distributing ETF.
There are X strategies. Everyone has different requirements in terms of time and risk.
Personally, I do both... growth stocks and crypto to generate cash and distributing ETFs into which I pump some of it, as they are managed but pay out without any hassle. Of course, I also hold larger dividend positions, which simply make more sense for me in percentage terms and not just 2% in a distributing ETF.
There are X strategies. Everyone has different requirements in terms of time and risk.
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