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is MBB the cheap Vorwerk ? MBB's intrinsic value is significantly higher than the current valuation.

$MBB (-0.78%) or $VH2 (-4.24%)


Hello my dears,

somehow the Friedrich Vorwerk share has run away from me with an annual performance of + 222 %.

Now I have noticed that the major shareholder MBB is lagging behind with an annual performance of + 79 %. (see comparison chart )


My thinking is that MBB should benefit from Vorwerk's good order situation. And it might not be a bad idea to get in before the figures in November.


I also find the 80 % stake in DTS IT (cyber security) with sales of €99m in 2024 very exciting.


Would you like to share your assessment in the comments?

@All-in-or-nothing
@SAUgut777
@EpsEra
@Hotte1909
@topicswithhead
@Klein-Anleger1 etc.


With an increase of 286 percent since the beginning of the year, Friedrich Vorwerk is the strongest stock among all Dax, MDax and SDax shares. The plant engineering company for energy infrastructure raised its forecast again the previous day. The MBB investment group, which holds a good half of Friedrich Vorwerk's share capital, benefited from this and also raised its annual targets on Tuesday.


MBB: The 50% stake in Friedrich Vorwerk covers the entire value. Why Oddo BHF analysts rightly see room up to 235 euros!


On October 22, 2025, Friedrich Vorwerk's share price rose by a further 4% to 104 euros. Metzler raised its target to EUR 116 and expects increasing sales momentum in the coming years. This would be good for MBB because the company is being consolidated. This would also increase the sales momentum of the investment company.


The MBB share (i) still has upside potential. On October 22, 2025, Oddo BHF analysts raised their target price to €235. Where does the potential come from? Because the intrinsic value of MBB is significantly higher than the current valuation despite a typical holding discount. The calculation:


The Friedrich Vorwerk stake is worth €1.05 billion. Added to this is €317.6 million in net cash in the holding company. The listed Aumann (i) is worth a further €80 million. These three assets alone add up to just under €1.44 billion or €265 per MBB share. However, MBB is only valued at €1.032bn with 5.436m shares. This already shows the large discrepancy, which is increasing further because the cybersecurity pearl DTS (annual turnover of around €100m) is still completely unconsidered.


The Metzler analysts' assumption of accelerated sales growth at Friedrich Vorwerk is also positive for MBB's prospects in the coming years. In the TraderFox model portfolio, we are now 100% up on MBB since our entry at EUR 94.


@Dividendenopi
@Max095
@Simpson

MBB paid a rising basic dividend 15 times in a row in 2025. According to a recent report by Handelsblatt, only 10 out of around 600 German listed companies have paid their shareholders an uninterrupted dividend increase for more than 10 years. Only 2 German companies have increased their dividends for longer than MBB.

Since MBB's IPO 19 years ago, the company has never lowered its dividend. Only 13 listed companies in Germany have not lowered their dividends over a longer period of time.


TÖCHTER


Aumann @EpsEra

Aumann is a leading global supplier of innovative special machines and automated production lines with a focus on e-mobility.

The company combines innovative winding technology for the highly efficient production of electric motors with decades of automation experience. In the field of battery systems, Aumann offers a broad product portfolio ranging from solutions for battery module and battery pack assembly to coating systems for electrode production. For fuel cell production, Aumann offers innovative solutions along the entire value chain - from coating and stacking to final assembly.


Friedrich Vorwerk

Friedrich Vorwerk is a leading supplier in the field of pipeline and plant construction for gas, electricity and hydrogen applications. The company is benefiting from the increasing need for investment in the German energy infrastructure.

At the end of 2019, Friedrich Vorwerk acquired 100% of the shares in Bohlen & Doyen Bau GmbH and Bohlen & Doyen Service & Anlagentechnik GmbH. Together with Bohlen & Doyen, Friedrich Vorwerk plans to further increase its growth in the field of pipeline, cable and plant construction for gas and electricity grids.

In 2021, Friedrich Vorwerk ventured onto the stock exchange and laid the foundation for further extraordinary growth with this IPO.


DTS IT

DTS is one of the leading German providers of cyber security solutions for IT infrastructure, on premise, hybrid or from the cloud.


Delignit

Delignit is the leading German provider of ecological, hardwood-based materials and system solutions for the automotive, rail and security industries.


Hanke Tissue. @Charmin

Hanke Tissue is a leading tissue producer in Poland, whose value chain includes the production of tissue parent rolls on its own paper machines, conversion into end products such as napkins, handkerchiefs and kitchen rolls, logistics as well as the design, marketing and distribution of these products. The company is the market leader in printed napkins. The products are mainly sold in Europe.


CT Formpolster

CT Formpolster is a leading supplier of mattresses for online retailers. As a one-stop store, the company's services range from in-house development and foam production to manufacturing, packaging and drop shipping of products to the end customer.


Family business

Gert-Maria Freimuth (Deputy Chairman of the Board of Directors) and Dr. Christof Nesemeier (Executive Chairman) founded the company in 1995 and hold the majority of the share capital for the long term. We are convinced that personal commitment and continuity in management are key cornerstones of MBB's success and provide the company with reliability and identity.


Original-Research: MBB SE (from Quirin Privatbank Capital Markets): Buy


Original-Research: MBB SE (von Quirin Privatbank Kapitalmarktgeschäft): Buy

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(TOLLE ROBUST QUALITY STOCK) perhaps something for star investors @Simpson

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Very exciting article! You have summarized the most important points about MBB really well. In particular, the enormous tailwind from Friedrich Vorwerk and the growth at DTS in the cybersecurity sector show that there is significantly more value in the holding company than the market is currently pricing in. The solid balance sheet, the long-term dividend discipline and the committed management also speak for quality and stability. For me, this makes MBB look like an underestimated value and growth investment at the same time - definitely a stock to keep an eye on.
If you look at the chart of $MBB, you can see that they are currently at an ATH. Do you still think it's an attractive investment at the moment?
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@der_Don
Thank you dear for the coins and your great analysis of MBB. As I wrote, I'm thinking of going in before the figures. Because due to the good order situation at Vorwerk, the MBB figures should also look good.
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@Tenbagger2024 Is there a profit transfer agreement? Because otherwise they would only benefit from the higher investment value. I would also like to point out that $MBB as an investment company, like almost all BTGs, always has to accept a significant discount on the investment values. And the market decides how high this is.
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@Multibagger
Yes, you're right. The discount is also taken into account in the analysts' report. And yet the intrinsic value of MBB is seen as far too cheap. And I still see a lot of potential in cyber security.
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@Multibagger
All investments are listed as subsidiaries on the MBB website.
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@Tenbagger2024 you would have to take a look at the holding company's balance sheet. I can do that as soon as I have time😉😅. Not uninteresting in principle, but from my point of view, as Chris @Multibagger has already described, it depends
depends entirely on how the holding or group structure is actually organized. And holding discounts are of course determined by the market, which in any case is always the big Unbekannte🤷🏼‍♂️.
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@All-in-or-nothing
That would be great of you. As I've already written, I also find the other subsidiaries exciting, including Aumann. And in contrast to Vorwerk, MBB is still valued acceptably. And perhaps a good alternative to Vorwerk at the moment. With the advantage of having a few more exciting companies in the holding company
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@Tenbagger2024 I just skimmed through the MBB consolidated financial statements and the financial statements of the listed subsidiaries. Result: no control or profit transfer agreements found. In other words, pure consolidation of sales, assets, goodwill/company values, expenses/income etc. without Gewinnabführung☹️. So MBB also benefits here exclusively from the higher investment value + possibly rising dividends + possibly higher management income (if these provide for performance bonuses or similar). This actually reduces my interest in MBB erheblich🤷🏼‍♂️.
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@Tenbagger2024 I don't think that was the point at all. The investments are recognized under assets. However, there is no indication that some of the higher profits are transferred from the associated companies to $MBB.
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@Tenbagger2024 It's also not a question of whether these are consolidated holdings or not😅. I come from the corporate client business of a bank and know something about consolidation, holding structures, etc.😉. The problem with the holding structure here is that the holding company (MBB in this case) does not benefit directly financially in the sense of operational, financial participation or additional cash flow at holding level (as there are no control or profit transfer agreements), but only from increases in the value of the investments. Nothing flows directly to the holding company from the profits of the Group subsidiaries (with the exception of dividends and any management income). The situation is similar at Mutares, but there the management fees of the holding company in relation to the subsidiaries are mostly linked to restructuring successes etc. and increase accordingly in the event of successes.
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I first became aware of them during the April Fool's joke about Laumann's move from $MUX to $MBB and took a closer look at them. It's an exciting company and I thought they were better positioned and set up than Mutares. However, on the one hand I was already invested in Mutares in this sector and on the other hand the dividend was not high enough for me. That's just the way it is if you're not growth-oriented 🤷‍♀️Ich would clearly prefer $MBB to Mutares at the moment. Are and will remain on the WL. Thanks for your introduction !!! 💪👍
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@Dividendenopi
My dear, thank you for your assessment. 😘
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Great contribution! Thank you
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Unfortunately, I don't know either of the two companies, but holding companies usually trade at a discount. If you are convinced and see upside potential, the holding is of course always a safe play
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Thank you! Very nice research and the participation in FV is certainly interesting in this context! I'll take a closer look tomorrow 👍✌️
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@Klein-Anleger1
Thank you, I look forward to your feedback
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Thank you, very interesting! Momentum and potential fundamental value in one 😋
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@Simon_n
Thank you, and I think its robustness makes it ideal for stormy times
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@Tenbagger2024 I love stormy times, is there a derivative? I must have a look!
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@Tenbagger2024 I found one that is humane and also looks good in terms of the key figures. However, a 15% spread is something I generally don't like. I hope it's the time of day and tomorrow it will be cheaper.
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@Multibagger
Sounds exciting, maybe something for @TomTurboInvest
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@Multibagger What ISIN does yours have?
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@Tenbagger2024 I'll have to take a closer look tomorrow 🧐
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Great summary, great research 👏 MBB still looks significantly undervalued compared to Vorwerk, if only when you look at the potential of subsidiaries such as Aumann and DTS. Both are active in absolute future fields, e-mobility and cybersecurity, and could give MBB a real boost in the next few years 🚀 My watchlist is already bursting at the seams, but this one will definitely be on it too 😉
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@EpsEra
Great, I'm pleased. I also think maybe not as volatile as the AI and crypto values
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@Tenbagger2024
I absolutely agree with you, crypto and AI are really not for the faint-hearted, you need stamina and good timing 😅 At MBB, I saw on the chart that the fair value is around €200 according to analyst estimates 👍
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@EpsEra
Perhaps interesting to go in before the numbers
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@Tenbagger2024
Where did you get the fair value calculation from, is that a tool?
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@EpsEra
My dear, Aktienfinder even says undervalued.

https://aktienfinder.net/aktien-profil/MBB%20SE-Aktie
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@Tenbagger2024
Great approach to compare so many sources and analysts' opinions 👍 The more perspectives you have, the more informed your decisions will be. That's exactly how you should proceed before investing. Have you ever done a DCF analysis with AI, e.g. with Perplexity Finance or ChatGPT (deep research), and compared it with the analysts' estimates? It would certainly be interesting to see how close the results are 🤔
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@EpsEra
No, not yet. But it sounds exciting
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@Tenbagger2024
If anything, I'm in the process right now, I'll report the result shortly.
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@Tenbagger2024 5-year DCF valuations of the companies
MBB SE (Ticker: MBB)

Input table (basis: 2024 and 2025e): MBB generated revenues (adj.) of €1,068bn in 2024.
mbb.com
. For H1/25 MBB already reports €545.5 M revenue (-16.8% vs. H1/24)
mbb.com
; the full year 2025 was extrapolated to around €1.150 billion The EBITDA margin was 14.0% in 2024
mbb.com
; we assume an improvement to around 12% for 2025. Further assumptions: WACC = 7%, terminal growth = 2% (see table).

Key figure 2024 (ACTUAL) 2025 (f.) Explanation
Revenue (€ billion) 1.068
mbb.com
~1.150 H1/25 extrapolated
EBITDA margin 14.0%
mbb.com
~12 % Expected increase
EBIT (€m) 103 ~126 (at 12% margin)
NOPAT ~72 ~88 (30% taxes assumed)
Capex (€ m) ~5 5 Estimate
WACC - 7.0 % target
Terminal growth - 2.0 % target

DCF results: The projected free cash flows (2025-2029) result in an enterprise value (excluding cash) of around €2.08 bn (segment EV). Adding the net liquidity of €553.9 M (as at 31.12.24)
mbb.com
this gives a Group EV of around €2.63 billion. With 5.436 M shares outstanding, this corresponds to a fair value of around €485 per share.

Sensitivity analysis (fair value per share):

WACC \ Terminal
Growth 1.75 % 2.00 % 2.25 %
6,5 % 550 € 600 € 660 €
7.0% (basis) € 430 € 485 € 540
7,5 % 335 € 380 € 430 €

Monte Carlo (assumptions of uncertain input variables): A Monte Carlo simulation (10,000 iterations with variation of growth and margin assumptions by ±5-10%) results in a fair range of around €400-600 (median ~€480).

Conclusion: The current share price of €191.60 is well below our DCF fair value range of around €430-600. MBB thus appears strongly undervalued. Drivers are the continued organic growth of the portfolio companies and the high net liquidity
mbb.com
. Risks lie in possible economic downturns or M&A acquisitions, which could impair efficiency and margins. The sum-of-parts NAV (liquid assets ~€210/share) already exceeds the share price today
mbb.com
which further supports the undervaluation. Source ChatGPT deep research
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