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Elephant Money = Crap ?


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@ActionChris
@Magellan

So since our @ActionChris has been upset about the comments and reactions of people to his project presentation $ELEPHANT (-1.12%) and has also expressed about the few well-founded criticism I have taken on the times.


I say in advance - I find it a cheek to present such a project - but more about that in a moment.


What is Elephant Money:


Elephant Money is a crypto project on the BSC - Chain. It consists on the one hand of the $ELEPHANT (-1.12%) Token and the $Trunk Token.


First about Elephant:


Each transaction is subject to a 10% transaction tax. From this 5% is distributed to the holders and 5% goes into the liquidity pool. $ELEPHANT (-1.12%) The liquidity pool is used by the protocol, among other things, to generate returns in order to partially finance the redemption of $Trunk later on. I take already times in advance that these transaction taxes usually always for problems on durable worry, besides yield for the Treasury with the project-own token seems to me relatively nonsensical - but more to it later!


IDO


The IDO took place via a so-called Liquidity Drive Event. (Basically you pay BNB into a pool and get Elephant - the price of Elephant is not determined from the beginning but is measured by the participation in this event) - This is nothing new and nothing bad per se.


Supply


The Supply breaks down into 3 major camps 1. 25% Liquidity Pool on Pancakeswap 2. 25% was available for exchange in the Liquidity Drive event explained above and 49% went to a "graveyard" address - I'll explain these in a moment.


Basically, the supply split here is fine.


Graveyard Address


The Graveyard Address collects tokens bit by bit how exactly this works I couldn't read in the whitepaper maybe you can enlighten me here @ActionChris . Anyway as soon as this address has collected 51% of the supply (it starts at 49%) a transaction can be triggered on the website which sells 0.5% of the total supply on the market for BNB and this is then thrown together with 0.5% of the Elephant supply into the liquidity pool.


I think this is highly problematic, since a project can usually only cope with such large protocol-led sell-offs in very strong growth phases, and as soon as the buying pressure decreases, this always causes immense losses among the holders.


Such a thing is trunk


Elephants Money "over-collateralized" Stablecoin I deliberately put that in quotes because that's not really true.


Trunk can basically be minted 1:1 for BUSD and in turn be paid out 1:1 for BUSD (redemption) the whole thing runs through a queue: That means I have to sit in a queue with my Trunk and wait until there is enough money for the redemption in the redemption pool. The idea behind this is that the treasury of Elephant - produces returns - and thus trunk can be paid out gradually.


Funnily enough I can give you some facts.


In the last 24h, a total of about 50 people were paid out worth a total of about 6000 BUSD. That was rather a good day often it is only 3-4000 BUSD.


The total "Queue Value" so what is in the queue - has since 07.2022 from 1.3 million to about 1.7 million to date steadily increased. Also the wallets from 2300 to about 2700. You can see here quite clearly something is not running smoothly here in any case.


One must say that originally one could $Trunk also still for abnormally high APYs Staken that was abolished meanwhile. That means you have to pay out your $Trunk either in the queue or you do it on the public market on Pancake Swap and get meanwhile still fabulous 0.16$ per 1$ you originally paid.


The BUSD used to mine Trunk is in turn used to buy the protocol's own token "Elephant" again.


I think slowly there is a system here :) And now everyone should start to realize that here with endless back and forth movement of assets is trying to keep a bubble going to somehow get people to buy so that the bubble is running longer. I think we all know what this is for a system and I do not need to say it ;)


I could talk more about original uses of Trunk but they have been mostly discontinued. Probably because it just didn't work in the long run and only causes losses to the protocol.


Stampede


I don't feel like explaining this in detail but basically I pay $Trunk to get $Trunk. Currently about 31% APR which is of course again abnormally high and only ensures that more trunks are thrown into circulation and on the one hand the price on the public market drops and the redemption queue gets bigger.


So Conclusion -> Dirt



So then there is EMF:


Elephant Money Farms


In the farms you can again throw Trunk + AssetX (BNB,XRP,BTC,CAKE, etc.) into a pool and you can guess it slowly I think -> you get $Trunk for it. Currently APRs are around 20% p.a. and that too at something like USDT/Trunk. Now you can try to explain to me how/where the protocol with the USDT received here should generate the 20%. As far as I know there is no liquidity pool on Curve or elsewhere where you can get even close to 20% with very good borrow/lend/liquidity providing techniques in 3way stable pools. Therefore more trunk -> lower price -> higher queue.


Then there are Airdrops and Raffles. I deliberately leave them out because they are only there to keep people in the system as long as possible.


Attached are some screenshots of some stats.


Now again to you @ActionChris you can try to explain me in the comments how this prokoll should survive in the long run. I'll take it in advance that you can not, the APRs and everything that pays the protocol are so abnormally high that this simply can not work.


I find it an impertinence how you can promote such a project which is obviously more or less already almost faked here on Getquin.


Please inform first before you post something like this.


So if I am completely wrong here I am sorry and I apologize for my way of speaking. I have read through the whitepaper and looked a bit in the blockchain data more not because for me the project is already crap at first glance.


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Destroyed 😂 danke dir
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@GoDividend Always a pleasure. Let's see, maybe he still drops a devastating comeback
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@TradingMelone I don't know anything about this stuff and I am grateful to you for serving the community and possibly preventing one or the other financial disaster in the search for the quick million.
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@GoDividend Hopefully. These projects always get on my nerves hard. :)
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@ccf

I see already: "ActionChris has blocked TradingMelone" 😂
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@Staatsmann Haha can be already ;) But then I probably did everything right.
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@TradingMelone Can but in the future corresponding things no longer unmask 😉
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@Staatsmann Then someone needs to do a "repost" and tag me ;)
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@TradingMelone won't happen ... but nice to see you know ChatGPT 🤣 ... I'll take the gains with me 😃
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@TradingMelone I mark you certainly in a few weeks here again 😉
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Thanks for highlighting and especially that you have made the effort to work through this. For me it was over when he wrote BSC is good and then in the research I came directly to the fact that the team has the funds for $Trunk geruggt.... Thereupon their "stablecoin" is depegged. So the project is not "almost failed" in my eyes, it was already dead last year. Soberly seen the only reason to shill would be that you need exit liquidity, because he will probably not believe in it himself as BTC Maxi...
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@Magellan Not a thing. Yes, BSC and defi is rarely good. And that with the funds I did not get. I had understood it so that the stable coin has no direct peg but only about this Redemption receives a peg and since the waiting time is getting longer and longer and TRUNK continue to be created, the price on Pancake obviously goes down. I can also really not understand how you can shill the project. So makes absolutely no sense to me since it is already more or less gefailed.
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@TradingMelone the redemption was to ensure the peg short term, but at the same time there were also many funds in bonds to secure the whole. They have to do that to be recognized as stablecoin. The team has officially declared Trunk as an "elephant money stable coin". That's why they have to meet basic conditions otherwise the whole thing won't be recognized by CMC. Then in the high the funds suddenly disappeared and as a result Trunk depegged and $elephant crashed by 90% in one day. The project has a similar course, as Luna, but that is also not all agree that this was a mistake and not a rug, but at least no one questions that the project is dead🙃
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@Magellan Interesting. I have not researched that far. Oh, people didn't believe me in March 2022 that Luna would eventually go to 0. They started big discussions with me when we were at 100. Well. What happened? People often do not think as soon as it comes to money.
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Only understood half of it, but thanks for your effort :)!
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@tAdel Yes, I could not explain every single term now. The problem with this kind of defi projects is that they are always made so complicated that most people do not understand the actual project.
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@TradingMelone was without valuation :)! Would have liked to take your job (I share your attitude to such users / projects 100%). But just way too little knowledge for it.... Greetings from Phu Quoc :)
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I think everything has been said about Elephant Money. Very good work. One must clearly present the "black sheep" (and there are so many in DeFi) as such. Where I do not go along, is to demonize DeFi and / or a specific chain in general.
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@oliverplass Garbage is also garbage
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The comment, can throw directly into the trash, best in the one on your profile picture ... is probably the closest possible ...
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Had once bFOT, same shit, different name. On such nen garbage one falls only once purely
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You throw 1x 🥚, 2x 🐚, 3x 🥬 and 5x 🍵 into a 🪣and get a ⭐️. From this you then buy a 🍪. Super serious financial vehicle, I already know from games.
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He just wants to troll you and you jump on it fully and wastes your time with this shit 😂
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@EnjoyCapitalism Did not come across to me as a troll and also do not think that was meant that way. And even if I have just nen scrap project as scrap project exposed. Better that way than otherwise.
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@TradingMelone do not know for whom exactly the contribution should be useful. Those who are so deep into it that they understand what you're writing about know what they're getting into anyway. And the rest just want to gamble a bit and are not interested in the system behind it.
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@EnjoyCapitalism Well, there is a difference if I gamble with a Memecoin or if I gamble with a faked project. It was about the fact that he had asked for well-founded criticism and would have said that the project would be top.
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The comment, can throw directly into the trash, best in the one on your profile picture ... is probably the closest possible ...
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Got out after the first 4 sentences because of too much denglish. The bullshit should disappear like many other things.
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@RundesBalli1 it's rather engdeutsch 😉😂
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@FuehrMichZumSchotter as a stock exchange statue ?😂😂
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@oliverplass well some people obviously think they will get rich from such garbage
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@TradingMelone rich in a money; that loses more value; than I can earn in time? Good luck if this is a means for you - to get RICH!
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@oliverplass I have 2-3% to play with in alts for a few years - make good flips here and there and trade it all in BTC ... I know this project for 2 years, make super profits with it - wanted to give someone involved in BSC ne possibility to take some gains... I don't marry a crypto project - no one should do it ... but I use it ... What does your mining ⛏️?!
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@oliverplass all cryptos are garbage - but unfortunately you can ACTUALLY make a lot in this world with certain bankroll management ... Why wouldn't you ...
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Am currently in Florida, fly on to Miami tomorrow - go to the BITCOIN 2023 Conference... I'll see what's there to dust off, then like to send people some stuff in the mail - so if you're up for some stuff, check out my Instagram Stories ... there's so much cool BTC stuff at the event 💪🏼😉
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