I find it rather difficult to limit the topic of mobility to one drive. I am not the biggest e-car fan and advocate, although I have daily contact with it. For city centers and homeowners, the e-car can make sense and is practical. For the tenant in a high-rise building with few charging stations rather less. The fact is, for daily use, the range is sufficient for the broad masses. Even in winter. For transport and longer distances, the diesel is simply madness with the highest payload. The payload for electric vehicles is extremely low, especially for trucks. I am personally more convinced of hydrogen because of the fast filling and the range. Emissions on site also do not take place. BUT, as long as H2 can not be produced climate neutral, the losses due to the compression up to 700bar and the production are simply insane and ineffective due to the efficiency over the entire chain. The same is true for natural gas, where emissions are of course primarily a problem. I also see e-fuels as having a future. Each type of drive simply has its justification and advantages, but also its disadvantages. Wanting to create a "beast of burden" is typically German😉 Time and the mix will tell. The elimination of premiums will show the acceptance of e-mobility. Looking at recycling is such a thing, there are concepts and processes. The coming years will show how recycling really takes place.
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@Wellenreiter It's just as German to say that you absolutely need a car. You can also do well without one.
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@0xBerndBuffet 🙈 But you can only say that if you live in the city.
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•@0xBerndBuffet Yes, maybe in the city. I didn't need one in Munich, but I did outside. How do I know that? Experience probably. Another question, what does this have to do with my comment? But the positive thing about it, everyone can decide for themselves. Typically German, ever observed other countries
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@Wellenreiter Thanks for your opinion 😊
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@RealRose first of all, everyone chooses where to live. Why do you always have to deal with the last borderline case. 77 percent of people live in cities or metropolitan areas and only 15 percent in villages with fewer than 5,000 inhabitants. And for the few process who live in the countryside, it's perfectly ok to have a car. But with their free decision, they should then also not constantly whine around that it is an expensive affair.
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@Wellenreiter So with the climate ticket in Austria 🇦🇹 I know enough people who have at least eliminated the second car. And as I said, where you live is up to you. Own enrollment own consequences. Just the attitude that it is considered normal to have a car, I think you can find wrong and as a passionate Audi tt driver I can say that it increases the savings rate significantly and the high rents in Munich also compensated. times apart from the time wasted for his free decision to live somewhere where the infrastructure is not so good.
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@0xBerndBuffet ok, the second car. Completely different topic and has always no little in common with my post on the different drive types, but ok. Well of course it is the free decision where you live, exactly this was to move out to not have to live in the city. I even save time and money currently, due to living situation (closer to employer) as well as no expensive monthly pass. As you can see there are always two sides to the coin. Btw, to your 77% statement. Only 30% live in big cities, the remaining 43% are metropolitan areas, which includes me but with city has nothing more to do. Please stay truthful. So we are not talking about a minority that does not live in cities. Here are three quick links. So everyone can look at the numbers themselves and calculate😊 https://www.tatsachen-ueber-deutschland.de/de/deutschland-auf-einen-blick/land-der-vielfalt https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Groß-_und_Mittelstädte_in_Deutschland https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/1353/umfrage/einwohnerzahlen-der-grossstaedte-deutschlands/ But now back to the core of the post. Do you have anything to contribute regarding the different types of drive or only regarding vehicle avoidance? You're not wrong, of course, but it wasn't my debate😉
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•@Wellenreiter well the point is whether drive type is now electronic or not plays no role in a society full of over consumption. But no matter must cut just everyone for himself, what he wants to drive. Fact is nevertheless I decide no matter what drive I want to drive, car starts with a and between it is a t as expensive and always to say in the country you have no other choice is nonsense. And in your 43% metropolitan areas gibts always ne reasonable connection even from petershausen and Augsburg come the people I know ehr with the öffis to work.
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@0xBerndBuffet I think you don't want to understand, vehicle avoidance was not my post. I wouldn't call it overconsumption either, or I'm not a person in that category. Short fact, I have never had a new car. Nice that you now write it yourself, everyone decides for themselves. I do not speak of all, In my case as I have now also described to you, the decision is simple. Please read clearly! In your case just different, is also ok and good so. A medal has two sides and mobility is individual. Then ask your acquaintances how great the commute with the S2 works. I can write you a book with signal, switch interference, etc. but does not matter😅. That is also my Sbahn. If there is now nothing more to the above topics, vllt to transport and co, I would close our exchange now. In this sense a nice We dir👍 and vorallem much fun in the mountains😊
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•@Wellenreiter just like me with traffic jams around Munich and on German highways and just when it snows that is the also the other side of the coin. Fits.
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